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Janus
17th February 2007, 04:39
While a person's accidental death reported on the evening news can bring viewers to tears, mass killings reported as statistics fail to tickle human emotions, a new study finds.

The Internet and other modern communications bring atrocities such as killings in Darfur, Sudan into homes and office cubicles. But knowledge of these events fails to motivate most to take action, said Paul Slovic, a University of Oregon researcher.

People typically react very strongly to one death but their emotions fade as the number of victims increase, Slovic reported here yesterday at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

"We go all out to save a single identified victim, be it a person or an animal, but as the numbers increase, we level off," Slovic said. "We don't feel any different to say 88 people dying than we do to 87. This is a disturbing model, because it means that lives are not equal, and that as problems become bigger we become insensitive to the prospect of additional deaths."

Human insensitivity to large-scale human suffering has been observed in the past century with genocides in Armenia, the Ukraine, Nazi Germany and Rwanda, among others.

"We have to understand what it is in our makeup—psychologically, socially, politically and institutionally—that has allowed genocide to go unabated for a century," Slovic said. "If we don't answer that question and use the answer to change things, we will see another century of horrible atrocities around the world."

Slovic previously studied this phenomenon by presenting photographs to a group of subjects. In the first photograph eight children needed $300,000 to receive medical attention in order to save their lives. In the next photograph, one child needed $300,000 for medical bills.

Most subjects were willing to donate to the one and not the group of children.

In his latest research, Slovic and colleagues showed three photos to participants: a starving African girl, a starving African boy and a photo of both of them together.

Participants felt equivalent amounts of sympathy for each child when viewed separately, but compassion levels declined when the children were viewed together.

"The studies ... suggest a disturbing psychological tendency," Slovic said. "Our capacity to feel is limited. Even at two, people start to lose it.”

Source: LiveScience
Comfortably numb (http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20070216/sc_livescience/humancompassionsurprisinglylimitedstudyfinds;_ylt= ArjzXkcGzc3WcwyRDcjq7BcPLBIF)

I suppose it's quite depressing to some and lends credence to Stalin's statement: "One death is a tragedy; a million is a statistic."

The Anarchist Prince
17th February 2007, 05:09
Sep 11th was the exception(for the U.S) . It's different if it's out of the home country though. Honestly, very few people give a shit about people in the Sudan or Iraq. 3,000 dead? As long as it's not here "it doesn't effect me". Fucking narrow minded bullshit.

Janus
17th February 2007, 06:08
Sep 11th was the exception(for the U.S)
Well, that's because it was a domestic event. Thus, a lot of the reaction was shock and anger rather than actual compassion.

The Anarchist Prince
17th February 2007, 06:25
Originally posted by [email protected] 17, 2007 01:08 am

Sep 11th was the exception(for the U.S)
Well, that's because it was a domestic event. Thus, a lot of the reaction was shock and anger rather than actual compassion.
I know, it wasn't compassion on a large scale.


Humans are animals after all though. We primarily are concerned with ourselves, rather than our co-inhabitants of earth.

encephalon
17th February 2007, 06:42
i should probably be noted that the media did personalize the stories revolving around 9/11, not just repeatedly state the number of people that died. Humans respond to humans with human stories, not numbers.

Janus
17th February 2007, 07:23
We primarily are concerned with ourselves, rather than our co-inhabitants of earth.
Yes, but environmental conditioning plays a major role as well. It's simply not in the best interests of someone living in a capitalist environment to be extremely compassionate and altruistic towards others.

Eleutherios
17th February 2007, 08:29
Well, when there are so many horrible things going on around the world, what can you expect? Disease outbreaks, civil wars, natural disasters, and car accidents are things that we've learned to deal with, because they happen all the time and the media is eager to tell us all about them. If we felt genuinely sad every time an atrocity showed up in the newspaper or on the television, we'd be constantly in tears, and our brains have psychological immune systems that successfully prevent most of us from being very sad for very long (potentially suicidal minds are not favored by natural selection).

EDIT: However, see my sig. ;)

LuĂ­s Henrique
17th February 2007, 12:44
Originally posted by [email protected] 17, 2007 04:39 am
People typically react very strongly to one death but their emotions fade as the number of victims increase, Slovic reported here yesterday at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

"We go all out to save a single identified victim, be it a person or an animal, but as the numbers increase, we level off," Slovic said. "We don't feel any different to say 88 people dying than we do to 87. This is a disturbing model, because it means that lives are not equal, and that as problems become bigger we become insensitive to the prospect of additional deaths."
If I would react to the death of 2,000 people with 2,000 times stronger emotions, I would be dead from a hearth attack, or chronically incapacitated by depression.

Or, in the contrary, I would have to react to one person dying in a quite unemotional way.

So, I don't think it is a "disturbing model", but a sane one.

Luís Henrique

colorlessman
17th February 2007, 16:55
Originally posted by [email protected] 17, 2007 07:23 am

We primarily are concerned with ourselves, rather than our co-inhabitants of earth.

Yes, but environmental conditioning plays a major role as well. It's simply not in the best interests of someone living in a capitalist environment to be extremely compassionate and altruistic towards others.
Exactly, such emotions are repressed. Most of the time to express such emotions it would be unprofitable. If lawyers and doctors expressed compassionate toward their clients they will never make money.

SecurityManKillJoy
17th February 2007, 19:32
I don't feel the emotion of compassion much, just some other kind of strong feeling. However I do make use of the idea of compassion, in that I think about deaths, and how I could have been one of them. An emotion is just a feeling, however important it is.

It's better to have the idea of compassion, such as reflecting on the deaths and being able to accept that we could be one of them. I try and deconstruct all the elaborate idea-systems I have (and I mean every single one, including Marxism) and all other preconceptions in order to do this. We're all individuals; we should be concerned with trying to live and accept whatever happens and make use of those conditions. At a minimum we'll all be still alive in some way because the non-existant awareness doesn't experience time so time would pass infinitely quickly until that awareness came into existence, and this is at a minimum, assuming there's no heaven, or something else.

Don't Change Your Name
20th February 2007, 05:31
Well, of course this is quite depressing, but it makes sense if you think about it. This reminds me of a certain "1984" quote about the infamous "Big Brother" which I don't feel like looking up. The thing is, people feel more sympathy for a person than, say, an institution, and for a single person suffering instead of many suffering (probably since the "difference" between a person suffering surrounded by many not suffering makes his/her suffering more obvious...this could also mean that people care for "equality" in the sense their compassion makes them assume that there's something wrong with someone suffering when the rest of the mass isn't, that is of course assuming that that person isn't someone who "deserves" it).

Also, if only one person dies, for example, it's easier for someone else to imagine him/herself as that person, and therefore it's easier to feel bad about it. Of course this also depends on the details you get.