Whats your plan? - your ideas of how to over throw capitalis

[samaniego]

I have read many post on how capitalism is wrong, but have yet to see a plan to actually do anything about it. Malte has started a good thing in creating this forum, but now is the time to forge forward, how can so many minds not have a theory? I want to see how you plan to over throw Capitalism, in depth. What arre your plans for the economy,Social welfare, Foriegn Policies, Local govt. Police, and most importantly how to get into power. We need action!

(Edited by samaniego at 9:00 pm on April 17, 2002)

[Revolution Hero]

HOW TO GET INTO POWER.
It is necessary to wait until the revolutionary situation to start with. It is necessary to work with proletariat masses by doing the propaganda of the communistic ideas.
If there is actual revolutionary situation which means high level of class antagonism and the masses are not organized you will get a failure as a result of your violent struggle.
Revolutionary situation- organized masses- revolution-the dictatorship of proletariat.

[revolutionary]

Quote: from Revolution Hero on 2:56 pm on April 18, 2002
HOW TO GET INTO POWER.
It is necessary to wait until the revolutionary situation to start with. .

There is no ideal situation for a revolution, a revolution is made- you can't just wait for the right time, u have to push for a revolution.
Che says in G.W that was the situation in Cuba and what ever Che says hads GOT to be right, coz hes the man!

[CheGuevara]

I agree 100% with Revolutionary. Well said.

[samaniego]

OUT OF ALL THE MEMBERS OF CHE LIVES ONLY THREE HAVE ANY VISION WHAT FRICKEN SHAME, NO WONDER WE DONT GET ANYTHING DONE.

[Hayduke]

I think we should start in Europe. In America we will have way to much enemys, not to talk bout every single person carrying a gun.

[samaniego]

hey thats a start d day, I was thinking the same thing, in fact the massive strikes that just tookplace are a symbol of the unity there is, perhaps some of our Euro friends can get in contact with some of the union orginizers and see what if any political clout they have. If they have some then maybe they can run for office and start a small movement.

[Michael De Panama]

The way I see it, educating the proletariat is the number one priority. After that, we must wait for the fall of the bourgeoisie to come following the fall of America. During this time, the proletariat must unite before a new bourgeoisie forms.

[RGacky3]

us commies have 2 options vote in a leftist party or have a revolution, I think we have to go with the system to destory it, we need to get the Idea of communism across to the masses, and for this we need capital, the very thing we are against

[Alejandro C]

Panama was right in that the first step must be education. But, while we educate we must actively pursue the fall of corporate america, not simply wait for its fall.

[Xvall]

I've always wanted to do this...
Once a large enough group of people demand communism, socialism, anarchism, or whatever anti-capitalistic form of government they desire, we will gather in one area, and claim independence from the United States, or whatever oppresive country is holding us in prison as. (We will only do this if we have adequate natural resources or trade routes.) We shall then, build our own civilization, and hopefully keep ourselves isolated from Imperialists like George Bush. If we are attacked, we SHALL defend ourselves. (Defending ourselves not being the 'american' way of bombing schools and hospitals, but military targets and assasinating responsible political members.)

- Drake Dracoli

[sypher]

personally I think that the youth in the U.$. want a revolution. people are hungry for knowlege an are starting to realize the flaws of capitalism. I believe revolution is just a rock throw away.

We need to take advantage of the times and teach the youth of america about socialism.

[Lardlad95]

what part of he U$ do you live in? The youth I know don't even know what a capitalist is let alone that its evil. People today are happy in their own ignorance. People don't know how bad they have it. I mean I admit I used to be like that, the only political parties I used to think existed were repbulican and democrat.

Now I know better. Kids don't care about the government...all they care about is what goes on in the radius of their immediate lives

[sypher]

I live in the state of Wisconsin.

I must admit that many people here are ignorante they are open minded enough to listen to what you have to say and are very responsive. although they see flaws in socialism (because of the Soviet union fall they think all of marxism is going to fail) they see the mny flaws of capitalism and are starting to question the governments ways with the on going war.

I feel that this will spread elsewhere soon.

[sypher]

I live in the state of Wisconsin.

I must admit that many people here are ignorante they are open minded enough to listen to what you have to say and are very responsive. although they see flaws in socialism (because of the Soviet union fall they think all of marxism is going to fail) they see the mny flaws of capitalism and are starting to question the governments ways with the on going war.

I feel that this will spread elsewhere soon.

[sypher]

I live in the state of Wisconsin.

I must admit that many people here are ignorante they are open minded enough to listen to what you have to say and are very responsive. although they see flaws in socialism (because of the Soviet union fall they think all of marxism is going to fail) they see the mny flaws of capitalism and are starting to question the governments ways with the on going war.

I feel that this will spread elsewhere soon.

[Dynatos]

I agree that the only thing stopping communism from world donination is ignorance. I think a good way to educate people about communism and the evils of capitalism is to mail the communist manifesto to every house in America. even though a small persentage of people will actually read it, it would sertanly make a few people think twice about the capitalist system. Another way is to get communist commercials on TV. If it did happen there would be almost twice as many communists as there are today and with more communists there would be more communist web sites, communist books, communist merchendise, and communist strikes. Then the communist community would grow extremely fast and eventualy a communist party would be elected.

[Anarcho]

As anyone can tell by reading these boards, or doing independant research, at least in the US, there is almost no hope of a Communist party takeover.

The prolem lies in the fact that American Communists are very very devided, and dont' co-operate well together.

So, unless one group is willing to do nasty purges of the other groups (which sounds oddly familiar..) after seizing power, there is almost no hope of a modern Communist takeover.

[RGacky3]

I live in Calabasas Calefornia, These rich basterds hate communism/ socialism or any leftist ideas. I think that the poor should be educated about socialism, they will then know what to do.

[honest intellectual]

I think the communist countries in the world should ally and export revolution, starting with exploited, corrupt countries in Eastern Europe, Africa, Latin America and the Carribean. But this would have to be very hush-hush or else thye U$A would obliterate the exporters of revolution

[Nativity Red]

I dont know if this is my actual plan, just something I thought of.
I think the revolution could begin from a general strike, most preferably in usa. In order to get a large strike going there must be some kind of comittee organizing the strike to make it most effective and to negotiate with the government. This committee must of course be elected by the striking people by some kind of representative system.
This committee will in the conflict with the government have the upper hand and they will be an actually base of power. In a continuing conflict they will be the most powerfull. Then people can see the actual alternative, and they will be able to see the actual comflict in the society and hopefully become socialists. And in a continuing conflict the revolution is kinda already begun, the crucial point being the workers reaction to the moment when the government decides to break the strike with force.

Nativity
Hey, that was my first post here :)