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marcelina44
13th February 2007, 02:25
I recently wrote a letter to the editor describing the minute men's origins (kkk). At then end of the letter i said "no human being is illegal." I thought it was a good article, however i got many angry letters sent back to me. Im having trouble countering some of them Any ideas?

No wonder this country is in the shape it's in.
Letter writer Rebecca ("No human being is illegal," Feb. 5) is more worried about 3,200 drug smuggling illegal aliens being killed crossing our borders than she is about the 45,000 people in the United States who've been killed since Sept. 11, 2001, by illegal aliens who got through.
She's worried about the Minutemen and claims they're anti-abortion. They are pro-life. That doesn't make them criminals, does it?
Gimeno doesn't believe in borders. Former president Ronald Reagan said of a country can't protect its borders, it isn't really a country anymore. Don't believe in borders?
Jim Thomas
Monaca

In response to Rebecca Feb. 5 letter to the editor "No human being is illegal:"
The millions of people from all different countries who enter the United States illegally are illegal aliens.
They have broken the law. We as a country have a right to protect our borders. In fact, it is the duty of our government to enforce the laws against a foreign invasion.
There is nothing racist about our immigration laws.
No one is advocating mistreatment of illegal aliens. They should simply be sent back to their country of origin.
Illegal immigration is out of control in this country, and the cost in billions every year to take care of illegal immigrants is a heavy burden placed on the American people.
Without borders we will continue to share what we have now.
Marie C. Barkovic
Center Township


thanks comrades

insurgent
13th February 2007, 02:30
Did you happen to catch the article in the last ISR about the minutemen?

http://www.isreview.org/issues/50/minutemen.shtml


I thought it was a pretty good article. I suggest reading it if you havnt already done so

Fawkes
13th February 2007, 02:33
Yeah, there was once a good South Park episode that dealt with this very issue. In the episode, people from the future were coming back in time for jobs in the present world because the future world was all fucked up. The people of South Park began to start violently stopping the futurist from coming back until they realized that, in order to make them stop coming to their time, they should try to make the future better so they don't have to come to their time. Now just change the word "future" and "present" to "third-world" and "first-world". I know it's an odd example, but it does a good job at explaining how the "immigration problems" could be fixed relatively easily.
This is a quote from me relating to this same issue in a different thread. An easy solution to our immigration "problem" is to stop making it so the immigrants feel the need to come to the U.S. by getting rid of things such as NAFTA.

marcelina44
13th February 2007, 02:47
thanks a lot. im still having trouble refuting their arguments. jeje i feel like a dork.

Kropotkin Has a Posse
13th February 2007, 03:45
Always a stumper for them is when you say that the real "leeches" are the people who pay the illegals such terrible wages, and not the ilolegals themselves.

bezdomni
13th February 2007, 04:53
People like that piss me off.

They don't mind undocumented workers when they are building houses or collecting garbage, but when they need someone to scapegoat...it's always the undocumented workers.

People immigrate "illegally" to the United States to avoid starvation and war (which is usually the result of US imperialism)...not to murder hard working Americans and rape white women, or whatever it is that they'd like you to believe.

People have the right to be where they want to be. It's pretty simple.

Rosa Lichtenstein
13th February 2007, 11:28
Why bother replying? You must know it will be a waste of time.

Capitalism creates these artificial borders, screws with our heads, and blames us for trying to ease the pain with the use of things they sell us to make even more profit (and they criminalise us for doing it), while we move around the globe (which belongs to no one just as much as it does to everyone) trying to earn the wherewithal to pay them to allow us to stay live.

We are through begging and excusing ourselves; we do not want any more crumbs, we want the entire bread factory.

If they cannot see this they are either too stupid, or they are benefiting from things the way they are.

Either way, a waste of time.

Janus
13th February 2007, 23:19
It's probably best if you write your own responses but we can definitely give you some pointers.

For the first reply, I would say respond by debating what a country is and the degree to which it's defined by arbitrary borders. Also, I would recommend that you check up their figures as well as their avoidance of the anti-abortion issue by stating "pro-life" instead.

As for the second reply, same deal but comment on their exaggeration of the "foreign invasion" and comment on the billions of dollars that immigrants are pouring into the country even though they are being exploited by Americans who brought them there in the first place.