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R_P_A_S
12th February 2007, 23:22
"this class is, within depravity, an indignation against this depravity, an indignation necessarily aroused in this class by the contradiction between its human nature and it's life situation, which is blalant , outright and all-embracing denial of that very nature."

I'm not sure if Hegel's said this or if it was Karl Marx. But what's being said here? I don't quite get it. I got it from "Alienation and Social Classes"

From what I can make out of it. it's basically that the proletariat as a class is filled inside with this fucked up way of life and their economic state of being.. is like anger. an anger that is contradicting what they have been taught to believe as their human nature?? compared with their ACTUAL life situation?and they are in denial of this?

UGH?? close? It be nice if someone could simplify this.. thanks!

Janus
13th February 2007, 23:13
an anger that is contradicting what they have been taught to believe as their human nature??
It contradicts the "true human spirit" or Marx's interpretation of what "human nature" should be like. Humans are social, interactive, and cooperative animals but this "nature" is repressed and contradicted by what we're experiencing in capitalism.

R_P_A_S
14th February 2007, 00:41
Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2007 11:13 pm

an anger that is contradicting what they have been taught to believe as their human nature??
It contradicts the "true human spirit" or Marx's interpretation of what "human nature" should be like. Humans are social, interactive, and cooperative animals but this "nature" is repressed and contradicted by what we're experiencing in capitalism.
so i was pretty close to it huh?

R_P_A_S
15th February 2007, 20:56
Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2007 11:13 pm

an anger that is contradicting what they have been taught to believe as their human nature??
It contradicts the "true human spirit" or Marx's interpretation of what "human nature" should be like. Humans are social, interactive, and cooperative animals but this "nature" is repressed and contradicted by what we're experiencing in capitalism.
by the way do you think human nature is what marx believed?