Post-Revolutionary Politics

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here is my question, after the revolution will different communs be allow to hold elections for there prefered type of leadership ie anarchist, Communist, Demo-Socialist, Primativist... even capitalist...

could a post revolutionary society allow that, if so, even in vague terms, how so?

[Enragé]

there is no leadership to speak of

Ofcourse there will be politics
but just like most politics in capitalism are about how to exactly organise capitalism, so will in communism politics be about how exactly we put communism into practive

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The prefered type of political power post revolution is all power to the people. The oppressed have a better understanding of whats wrong with the world and how it should be fixed than any professional revolutionary.

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my question is this more than anything, could there be different groups controling each commune ie. a anarchist commune in Toronto, a Communist one in Detroit, and a socialist one in New York? or would that create artificial divisons...

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Originally posted by Question [email protected] 12, 2007 04:01 pm
my question is this more than anything, could there be different groups controling each commune ie. a anarchist commune in Toronto, a Communist one in Detroit, and a socialist one in New York? or would that create artificial divisons...
Communes are democratic bodies of the working class. There could be a multitutde of factions and trends within communes. I think this is an acceptable phenomenon as long as these trends and factions keep in line with a principle of democratic and libertarian organisation of the working class.

[Coggeh]

here is my question, after the revolution will different communs be allow to hold elections for there prefered type of leadership ie anarchist, Communist, Demo-Socialist, Primativist... even capitalist...

What would be the point in overthrowing capitalism just to see it get back in power right after the revolution ??? ... :blink:

People won't know the prospers of socialism and so will try and hang onto capitalism ....

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I know what you are saying but if a socialist state is established against the will of the people the it is not a true solialist state...

[Janus]

could there be different groups controling each commune ie. a anarchist commune in Toronto, a Communist one in Detroit, and a socialist one in New York? or would that create artificial divisons...
The same types of people will be in charge of the communes i.e. the workers. Now, some communes may be more radical than others in terms of politics or economics but I don't see why that would promote conflict or really necessitate the kind of divisions which you speak of.

[Kami]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2007 11:23 pm

could there be different groups controling each commune ie. a anarchist commune in Toronto, a Communist one in Detroit, and a socialist one in New York? or would that create artificial divisons...
The same types of people will be in charge of the communes i.e. the workers. Now, some communes may be more radical than others in terms of politics or economics but I don't see why that would promote conflict or really necessitate the kind of divisions which you speak of.
This isn't quite the case. Individualist Anarchists, for example, wouldn't have communes at all. And in this particular example, each person would be sovereign over themselves, not ruled over by anyone. I'm sure there are other examples of anarchism and so on that have similar differences.

Please correct any errors in my understanding, I'm new at this.

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My question is could Anarchy and communism co-exist while adhere to the will of the people? it would be difficult to reestablish the organisation entirely differently if the people move from communism to anarchy or visa-versa

[Enragé]

anarchism and communism dont differ post-revolution, unless the will of the people is actually hampered, in which case the bastards doing the hampering are the problem, no matter if they call themselves anarchist or communist

[An archist]

well, like it has been said before, after a revoltuion, there will be different ways of organising communism, just as there are different ways of organising capitalism. Some communes will have more conservative tendencies, others will be more ecological, syndicalist, technocratic, ... There could even be communes where the people delegate the power to elected people for a short while, as long as everyone involved agrees, why not?

[Coggeh]

"Even the most radical revolutionary will be a conservative the day after the revolution" ... Just thought I'd add that :)

[Janus]

Individualist Anarchists, for example, wouldn't have communes at all. And in this particular example, each person would be sovereign over themselves, not ruled over by anyone. I'm sure there are other examples of anarchism and so on that have similar differences.
I don't see how individualist anarchists will survive in a post-revolutionary world. The ideology would simply be defunct after capitalism itself has collapsed.