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R_P_A_S
11th February 2007, 08:26
I want to make a flyer about reason to be proud of being Mexican and for our people! our culture...
sadly many young people think and are proud of being mexican because of the wrong reasons. they associate Mexican with Gangs, Low riders, and other crap.. that is not really about The Mexican Culture..

what are some examples you could give me that Mexican youth should be proud of?

UndergroundConnexion
11th February 2007, 10:49
very easy. Sub Marcos . Zapata . Good Food. Good people

Forward Union
11th February 2007, 10:56
moved to Events and Propaganda

Tekun
12th February 2007, 04:14
This is touchy subject, just because cultural or national pride (Brown and proud, "proud to be an American,") in many instances give birth to nationalism and patriotism

In addition, therez so many cultures in Mexico that its hard to pinpoint or emphasize one, and therefore many ppl just take pride in being Mexicans, and this often leads, as I mentioned earlier, to patriotism
For example, the people who showed up to the Immigrant protests last year carrying Mexican flags, they were for the most part proud nationalists

In Mexico, therez so many cultures such as the indigenous ppl, the ppl with European descent, the mestizos, the ladinos, and so on
Each one of these groups are proud of being such and having certain qualities and customs, which other ppl from other groups don't necessarily understand or identify with

So its hard to find a custom or a quality which all Mexicans identify with or can be proud of due to the large size of ethnic groups that exist in Mexico

I could mention something about the Aztecs but since many Mexicans are of European descent, some dont identify or connect with the Aztec culture

Personally, I like and value the country that I was born in, but I don't take pride in it
I take pride in my family customs and my culture, and I stay away from worshiping or glorifying the country

Kropotkin Has a Posse
12th February 2007, 04:57
You could emphasise things like resilience and determination in the face of adversity. That's kind of a catch-all and it's not controversial.

Sand Castle
12th February 2007, 15:56
I would think a diverse and hard-working nation of people would be something. I say diverse because of Tekun's post.

R_P_A_S
12th February 2007, 16:45
Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2007 04:14 am
This is touchy subject, just because cultural or national pride (Brown and proud, "proud to be an American,") in many instances give birth to nationalism and patriotism

In addition, therez so many cultures in Mexico that its hard to pinpoint or emphasize one, and therefore many ppl just take pride in being Mexicans, and this often leads, as I mentioned earlier, to patriotism
For example, the people who showed up to the Immigrant protests last year carrying Mexican flags, they were for the most part proud nationalists

In Mexico, therez so many cultures such as the indigenous ppl, the ppl with European descent, the mestizos, the ladinos, and so on
Each one of these groups are proud of being such and having certain qualities and customs, which other ppl from other groups don't necessarily understand or identify with

So its hard to find a custom or a quality which all Mexicans identify with or can be proud of due to the large size of ethnic groups that exist in Mexico

I could mention something about the Aztecs but since many Mexicans are of European descent, some dont identify or connect with the Aztec culture

Personally, I like and value the country that I was born in, but I don't take pride in it
I take pride in my family customs and my culture, and I stay away from worshiping or glorifying the country
i think you are right. actually you are right. I'm going to make this about latin america

Enragé
12th February 2007, 19:23
dont you think we should better divide the world into bourgeois and working class, show people that divide, than to divide them into "latino" and "white" and "black"?

R_P_A_S
12th February 2007, 19:41
Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2007 07:23 pm
dont you think we should better divide the world into bourgeois and working class, show people that divide, than to divide them into "latino" and "white" and "black"?
you have to catch people FIRST with stuff that hits home to them and is directly aimed at them. if they see something about mexico, or latin america they will be more interested than hearing.. "we are all brothers!" sounds like some shit they hear at church.

im trying to focus first on mexico, ok Latin America and then make them see how we are no different than that people in Haiti, Guam, Bulgaria, Philippines, etc! we are all oppressed. but you have to get their attention according to their demographic and for me is latinos.

Enragé
12th February 2007, 20:45
so divide and divide away

point is, we all are brothers and sisters, except for those who oppress us
people arent interesting in hearing that?
i think they are

What if i were to shout
"White people unite!"
how would that come accross?

Question everything
12th February 2007, 20:57
What if i were to shout
"White people unite!"
how would that come accross?

Three Nazis and a crack addict :P ...

When I saw this I presumed it would be for supporting those protests and denouncing what they gouverenment did to Oaxaca... trying passing around flyers saying what is happening in Mexico...

Political_Chucky
13th February 2007, 01:04
Well I think the whole point of "brown pride" is just one persons (Mexicans, Mesitizos, or even latinos or hispanics) pride in their own culture, not necessarily the country they had came from, just the connection within the culture.

Enragé
13th February 2007, 23:09
White people unite!
Our culture is the best!

..
thats any better? ..

R_P_A_S
14th February 2007, 00:45
Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2007 11:09 pm
White people unite!
Our culture is the best!

..
thats any better? ..
im not trying to say mexicans culture is the best! im trying to make the younger kids see that our people are far more beyond low rider trucks, gangs and blue rags and shit. damn!

Ultra-Violence
14th February 2007, 02:24
point is, we all are brothers and sisters, except for those who oppress us
people arent interesting in hearing that?
i think they are

Let the Drame Begin!

Here we go..... i see that lots of white leftist just like to seperate shit into Class and try to ingore race...RACE MY FREIND IS STILL A BIG DEAL IN A AMERICA! we still have fucking ways to go regardless of what u think Being a minority fucking sucks up here i understand what RPAS is doing he trying to make Meztizo People Feel Proud of who we are! The Only shit i see on T.V is white People (nothing agianst white people) BUT TIME AND TIME AGAIN ask anyperson off color here theyll tell you soceity tells us the way we look and who we are is wrong! Look at ambercrombie and fitch! Look at how the media portrays us! We are labled as criminals automaticly We are fucking dropping out of highschool like flys on shit were the first ones do die in the front line's in war Go RPAS do that flyer bro

white lefties should listne to these recordings at a D.I.Y fest i went to a month a go it'll make more sense then me i think very good disucion.
http://diyzine.com/blogjan13th2007diyfest

:(

Enragé
14th February 2007, 21:26
so solving racism is pointing out the differences between those races?

How about just convincing people that race is a social construct which doesnt actually exist outside of people's minds.

R_P_A_S
15th February 2007, 00:26
Originally posted by [email protected] 14, 2007 09:26 pm
so solving racism is pointing out the differences between those races?

How about just convincing people that race is a social construct which doesnt actually exist outside of people's minds.
huh what? i don't know where you are from or anything. but im just trying to let my people know about our culture. our native culture... the meso-american civilizations... we have a vast history and is important for us to know it.

its important to learn where we came from. more important than the low-rider culture. dig?

OneBrickOneVoice
15th February 2007, 00:41
Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2007 08:45 pm

What if i were to shout
"White people unite!"
how would that come accross?
white people are not an oppressed race/nationality. Black people and Latinos actively are and need to fight for liberation. White nationalism is just plain fascist and upsurd as whites are the oppressors, the slave owners, and the exploiters by large.