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Knight of Cydonia
9th February 2007, 22:14
i think you guys may had known about the Mud Eruption that happen in Indonesia. and mud has already sinking several village in Porong, East Java.
i wonder what do you guys think it is? what cause it and do you have any theory to make it stop?

Mud Eruption (http://indonesianow.blogspot.com/2006/06/lapindos-environmental-mess.html)

here's some picture:
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7338/71998523yw4.jpg

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/3474/17343677hm3.jpg

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7253/96139204mr5.jpg

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/6382/lapindokantorpertaminathv8.jpg

Severian
9th February 2007, 23:15
Originally posted by knight of [email protected] 09, 2007 04:14 pm
i think you guys may had known about the Mud Eruption that happen in Indonesia. and mud has already sinking several village in Porong, East Java.
i wonder what do you guys think it is? what cause it and do you have any theory to make it stop?
Huh. Hadn't heard about this previously.

Apparently it's a mud volcano - and an unnatural disaster.

The most in-depth scientific study so far (http://www.gsajournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-abstract&doi=10.1130%2FGSAT01702A.1) says it's caused by drilling for gas.

And not just that - it's caused by corporate greed, negligence, and cost-cutting. The study says: "We propose that the borehole provided a pressure connection between the aquifers in the limestones and overpressured mud in overlying units. As this was not protected by steel casing, the pressure induced hydraulic fracturing, and fractures propagated to the surface, where pore fluid and some entrained sediment started to erupt." Emphasis added.

Another technical expert says (http://environment.newscientist.com/article/dn11025-indonesian-mud-volcano-caused-by-gas-drilling.html): ""It is standard industry procedure that this kind of drilling requires the use of steel casing to support the borehole, and protect against the pressure of fluids such as water, oil or gas....In the case of Lusi, a limestone water aquifer was drilled into while the lower part of the borehole was not protected by casing."

Technically preventable, but the company chose not to take the necessary precautions. Capitalism at work.

This is of course disputed by an Indonesian government minister who has a financial interest in the company!

Clearly the energy companies involved should be held financially responsible for compensating those affected.

Also the government has a responsibility to evacuate and relocate people as needed. Apparently it hasn't done such a great job there; that's common with capitalist governments' responses to disasters - they just have other priorities.

As far as shutting off a mud volcano, nobody seems to know if that's even technically possible. There's so much pressure....

The second article I linked says a similar event in Brunei "was caused by drilling and it took an international oil company almost 30 years and 20 relief wells before the eruption stopped."

In other words, they never did block it - they had to let out the pressure somewhere else. But is that an option near a major city?

This could get a lot worse. Could take every dime these companies have for compensation, and then some. They're probably looking for somewhere to start hiding assets now....

Knight of Cydonia
10th February 2007, 05:11
The most in-depth scientific study so far says it's caused by drilling for gas.it is, and they had misscalculated on the drilling, but some of another eruption (which is mysteriously happen lately), the mud was came out on it self, i.e in Lamongan, East Java, the mud came out in the middle of a farm.

piet11111
10th February 2007, 17:27
vulcanic activity seems likely for those area's where no drilling took place.

Janus
27th February 2007, 04:11
Mud fissures are fairly common along volatile tectonic belts such as the one running below Indonesia, and in areas where there are rich oil and natural gas deposits. Opinions differ about the cause of the mud flow, but experts agree it could continue for years.

Some scientists suggest the rupture was triggered by faulty gas exploration techniques by operator PT Lapindo Brantas. Other research suggests it is the result of increased seismic activity, with the mud flow starting two days after a major earthquake elsewhere on Java island.
Indonesian engineers try to stem mud flow (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070227/ap_on_re_as/indonesia_mud_volcano;_ylt=AvZlSo85mYkiIuAoLxlmSqt vaA8F)