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Guerrilla22
1st February 2007, 10:10
By FABIOLA SANCHEZ, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 43 minutes ago



CARACAS, Venezuela - President Hugo Chavez was granted free rein Wednesday to accelerate changes in broad areas of society by presidential decree, a move critics said propels Venezuela toward dictatorship.

Convening in a downtown plaza in a session that resembled a political rally, lawmakers unanimously gave Chavez sweeping powers to legislate by decree and impose his radical vision of a more egalitarian socialist state.

"Long live the sovereign people! Long live President Hugo Chavez! Long live socialism!" said National Assembly President Cilia Flores as she proclaimed the "enabling law" approved by a show of hands. "Fatherland, socialism or death! We will prevail!"

The law gives Chavez, who is beginning a fresh six-year term, more power than he has ever had in eight years as president, and he plans to use it during the next 18 months to transform broad areas of public life, from the economy and the oil industry in particular, to "social matters" and the very structure of the state.

His critics call it a radical lurch toward authoritarianism by a leader with unchecked power — similar to how Fidel Castro monopolized leadership years ago in Cuba.

"If you have all the power, why do you need more power?" said Luis Gonzalez, a high school teacher who paused to watch in the plaza, calling it a "media show" intended to give legitimacy to a repugnant move. "We're headed toward a dictatorship, disguised as a democracy."

Hundreds of Chavez supporters wearing ruling-party red gathered in the plaza, waving signs reading "Socialism is democracy," as lawmakers read out passages of the law giving the president special powers to transform 11 areas of Venezuelan law.

"The people of Venezuela, not just the National Assembly, are giving this enabling power to the president of the republic," congresswoman Iris Varela told the crowd.

President Bush said Wednesday that he's "concerned about the Venezuelan people."

"I am concerned about the undermining of democratic institutions. And we're working to help prevent that from happening," Bush said in an interview with Fox News.

But in the square in Caracas, Venezuelan Vice President Jorge Rodriguez publicly ridiculed the idea that the law is an abuse of power, and argued democracy is flourishing.

"What kind of a dictatorship is this?" Rodriguez asked the crowd, saying the law "only serves to sow democracy and peace."

"Dictatorship is what there used to be," Rodriguez said. "We want to impose the dictatorship of a true democracy."

Chavez, a former paratroop commander re-elected with 63 percent of the vote in December, has said he will decree nationalizations of Venezuela's largest telecommunications company and the electricity sector, slap new taxes on the rich, and impose greater state control over the oil and natural gas industries.

The law also allows Chavez to dictate unspecified measures to transform state institutions; reform banking, tax, insurance and financial regulations; decide on security and defense matters such as gun regulations and military organization; and "adapt" legislation to ensure "the equal distribution of wealth" as part of a new "social and economic model."

Chavez plans to reorganize regional territories and carry out reforms aimed at bringing "power to the people" through thousands of newly formed Communal Councils designed to give Venezuelans a say on spending an increasing flow of state money on projects in their neighborhoods, from public housing to potholes.

Venezuelan historian Ines Quintero said that with the new powers, Chavez will achieve a level of "hegemony" that is unprecedented in the nation's nearly five decades of democratic history.

Opposition leader Julio Borges called for the 4 million Venezuelans who voted against Chavez not to be left out of decision-making, particularly as he pushes for constitutional changes including scrapping the term limits that would end his presidency in 2013.

"The worst we Venezuelans can do is throw in the towel and become like an ostrich (burying our heads in the sand) and giving up the fight," Borges told the Venezuelan radio station Union Radio.

But the top U.S. diplomat for Latin America, Thomas Shannon, said the enabling law isn't anything new in Venezuela.

"It's something valid under the constitution," said Shannon, the assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere affairs, told reporters in Colombia. "As with any tool of democracy, it depends how it is used," he added. "At the end of the day, it's not a question for the United States or for other countries, but for Venezuela."

Chavez has requested special powers twice before, but for more modest legislative changes.

In 1999, shortly after he was first elected, he used it to push through two new taxes and a revision of the income tax law after facing fierce opposition in congress. In 2001, invoking an "enabling law" for the second time, he decreed 49 laws including controversial agrarian reform measures and a law that sharply raised taxes on foreign oil companies.

Now Chavez has a free hand to bring under state control the oil and natural gas projects still run by private companies in Venezuela, a top oil supplier to the United States and home to South America's largest gas reserves.

Chavez has said companies upgrading heavy oil in the Orinoco River basin — British Petroleum PLC, Exxon Mobil Corp., Chevron Corp., ConocoPhillips Co., Total SA and Statoil ASA — must submit to state-controlled joint ventures. The new law enables Chavez to unilaterally "regulate" this transition if companies don't agree to the new framework within an unspecified "peremptory period."

Whitten
1st February 2007, 14:21
This should speed up the nationalisation of industry. Expect alot of blows against the free market capitalists over the next year.

Ze
1st February 2007, 15:15
just as exxon announced record profits. poor capitalists.

Kropotkin Has a Posse
1st February 2007, 17:07
No wonder the corporate media call it a dictatorship. If Chavez was ruling by decree and promised to privatise everything, nobody would mention the "d" word.

Supposedly other South Americans have ruled by decree before.

Whitten
1st February 2007, 17:53
Its been a common practice in venezuelan law for decades, and has been used by many pro-US, pro-free market, presidents.

The Grey Blur
1st February 2007, 19:14
Err France and the USA both have this system right?

RedLenin
1st February 2007, 21:46
This is excellent news. The revolution is taking the next step forward, and this enabling law is necessary. It is amazing to me how much the bourgeois media totally and completely distorts what is happening in Venezuela. You can hear over and over again about the enabling law and how Chavez is another Castro. But you certainly don't hear anywhere near as much about the communal councils, or the fact that workplaces are being nationalized under workers control. That is the whole purpose of the enabling law, to nationalize workplaces under workers control and to transfer more power to the class organizations of the proletariat, which have recently come into being.

Never-the-less, the bourgeois state must be smashed if the revolution is to take the next great leap forward. The United Socialist Party of Venezuela must be created from the rank and file of the working class and, under its leadership, power must be transfered to the workers and community councils. This will need to be done with or without Chavez.

Guerrilla22
1st February 2007, 21:50
Yaeh, in the US its called an executive order when its done. The ability to rule by decree for certain areas was embedded in the 1999 constituion, but it has to be approved by the legislature, which has just happened.

CrimsonTide
1st February 2007, 22:47
The people voted him in. If they wish to give him this power, it is their right, although any politician - especially a powerful one - should be watched vigilantly.

Let us hope this is the beginning of True Socialism in Venezuela.

Janus
1st February 2007, 23:17
President Hugo Chavez dismissed Washington's concerns that Venezuela's democracy is under threat, saying a "dictatorship" led by President Bush poses a true threat to democracy around the world.

Chavez's counter to US and foreign critics (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070201/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_us;_ylt=AmEjHVWfhvTp3B8yAhmd7yO3IxIF;_yl u=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--)

RGacky3
2nd February 2007, 01:43
Sounds very very dodgy too me, basically now, socialists just have to trust in Hugo Chavez, that usually does'nt work. Any time there's a centralizing of power, not good. This sounds like a step toward State Socialism.

Rather than taking power 'in the name of the people' I would love the people take the power for themselves, in the name of themselves.

The Feral Underclass
2nd February 2007, 01:48
And so it begins.

When will you Leninists learn?

The Feral Underclass
2nd February 2007, 01:54
Originally posted by [email protected] 01, 2007 10:46 pm
you certainly don't hear anywhere near as much about the communal councils, or the fact that workplaces are being nationalized under workers control.
What's the point of having such councils or of factories being under "workers control" if the army, police force and legislative power is under the control of one man who can make any decision at any time?

What happens when these councils get too powerful for Chavez to control? Are we to expect Chavez to hand over power?

As a Leninist, do you accept that this is the first stage of communism? Is this the dictatorship of the proletariat?

RedLenin
2nd February 2007, 02:06
What's the point of having such councils or of factories being under "workers control" if the army, police force and legislative power is under the control of one man who can make any decision at any time?
I agree with you here. I am not blindly following Chavez. I am skeptical but I am also optimistic. Chavez has claimed to be a Trotskyist and he has called for the transfering of power from the bourgeois state to the councils, once they are fully developed. Whether he follows through with this I do not know. Whatever happens, it will be the action of the masses that makes it happen.


What happens when these councils get too powerful for Chavez to control?
Hopefully they will take power and the bourgeois state will be disolved.


Are we to expect Chavez to hand over power?
I don't know. We will have to wait and see. No matter what, it will be the masses who determine whether or not the revolution goes forward. The revolution must succeed, with or without Chavez. It is interesting to note that Chavez has called for the creation of a United Socialist Party of Venezuela from the rank and file of the working class. If this actually happens then we may see a leadership with a clear program and vision as to how to take the revolution forward. A vanguard party, not with the goal of taking party power, but with the goal of leading the workers in seizing power.


As a Leninist, do you accept that this is the first stage of communism? Is this the dictatorship of the proletariat?
No. The dictatorship of the proletariat is the proletariat organized as ruling class for the suppression of the bourgeoisie. We are certainly not there yet. I think we are moving toward that however. Basically Chavez will have to prove his loyalty. Either he will try to hold on to power or he will side with the people. Either way, the revolution must move forward. The main point of the whole Venezuelan revolution is the action of the masses.

CrimsonTide
2nd February 2007, 02:09
The people want Socialism, with or without Chavez. If he betrayed them he'd be dead in a week.


Originally posted by Red Lenin
No. The dictatorship of the proletariat is the proletariat organized as ruling class for the suppression of the bourgeoisie. We are certainly not there yet. I think we are moving toward that however. Basically Chavez will have to prove his loyalty. Either he will try to hold on to power or he will side with the people. Either way, the revolution must move forward. The main point of the whole Venezuelan revolution is the action of the masses.
Absolutely. Although technically it might be considered a Proletarian Republic, since the masses voted him in themselves. He did'nt sieze power in a forceful way against them.

Viva Fidel
2nd February 2007, 03:01
Originally posted by [email protected] 01, 2007 05:53 pm
and has been used by many pro-US, pro-free market, presidents.
for example...?

piet11111
2nd February 2007, 04:14
good this should speed up the process of chavez "revolution"

i really cant wait to see where this is going.

CrimsonTide
2nd February 2007, 05:16
Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 04:14 am
good this should speed up the process of chavez "revolution"

i really cant wait to see where this is going.
Don't call it a "Chavez Revolution", it is a Peoples' Revolution, with Chavez playing the figurehead to rally around. It is the Peoples' will incarnate.

bloody_capitalist_sham
2nd February 2007, 09:08
And so it begins.

When will you Leninists learn?

We have learned.

The only way to combat rival states and defend against rival states is to have an organised one yourself.

"leninists" have seen what the anarchist method has given us, from spain to mexico. It normally goes like this.

1. Be ardent in no cooperation with the state
2. Lose, because your not willing to organise a movement into a state
3. become totally reformist and run in elections in capitalist states, which your always going to lose.

That happened in Spain, it happened in mexico, why should the "leninists" listen now.

Hate Is Art
2nd February 2007, 17:59
Let us hope this is the beginning of True Socialism in Venezuela.

True socialism, with one man ruling by decree over a country? This centralising forces should be opposed, true socialism is freedom, not subjugation to a different ruler.

Whitten
2nd February 2007, 18:59
Originally posted by Viva Fidel+February 02, 2007 03:01 am--> (Viva Fidel @ February 02, 2007 03:01 am)
[email protected] 01, 2007 05:53 pm
and has been used by many pro-US, pro-free market, presidents.
for example...? [/b]
Carlos Andrés Pérez
Jaime Lusinchi
Ramón José Velásquez

From the 70's through to the 90's have all been Presidents under who the national assembly as passed enabling acts allowing them the power of rule by decree.

It should also be noted by the Chavez critics that a) He was democraticly elected, recieviong more than half the vote. b) It required a majority vote of the national assembly to pass the enabling act, granting him this power. c) This power dsoesn't expand to all areas of legislature. d) The term of these powers is limited to 18 months. e) The judiciary remains completly independent and has the power to impeach him if they judge any of his actions to be illegal, or unconstitutional. f) He has no ability to change the constitution. g) democratic elections remain, if the people really dont like something he does they can get rid of him.

farenheit 911
2nd February 2007, 20:30
i say let him do, the venezuelian people trust him, and so do i
i mean, he is certainly no D, and if he does anything like that, it's only for the good of venezuela
they can be proud of there president
:D

Cheung Mo
2nd February 2007, 22:07
If Chavez's policies reflect the collective will of the Venezuelan people (and for the most part, I believe that they do), is it not their perogotive to give him the powers they have given him if said powers are not used to surpress civil liberties and human right?
(In Latin America, that's more more of a cappy thing anyways, unless you consider expelling Pat Robertson-sponsored assassination squads pretending to be Christian missionaries or banning a network from public airwaves for backing a violent right-wing coup against a popular democratically elected government to be human rights violations.)

Luís Henrique
2nd February 2007, 22:16
Originally posted by Cheung [email protected] 02, 2007 10:07 pm
civil liberties and human rights (which in Latin America, is more of a cappy thing anyways)?
Never say that, dude. <_<

Luís Henrique

Cheung Mo
2nd February 2007, 22:29
Originally posted by Luís Henrique+February 02, 2007 10:16 pm--> (Luís Henrique @ February 02, 2007 10:16 pm)
Cheung [email protected] 02, 2007 10:07 pm
civil liberties and human rights (which in Latin America, is more of a cappy thing anyways)?
Never say that, dude. <_<

Luís Henrique [/b]
I was referring to their surpression (which the cappies have made an art of), not their creation and protection (generally the role of certain left-wing streams) :

Sure, there are things Castro does that I&#39;m far from fond of, but Trujillo, the Duvalliers, Somoza, Batista (and his legions of corpse-fuckers in Miami), Pinochet, and the neo-liberal era PRI -- to name a few of the most noxious offenders -- were exponentially worse, and right-wing goons are still making a mess of Mexico, El Salvador, Mexico, Colombia, etc...

Guerrilla22
3rd February 2007, 00:01
Originally posted by Whitten+February 02, 2007 06:59 pm--> (Whitten @ February 02, 2007 06:59 pm)
Originally posted by Viva [email protected] 02, 2007 03:01 am

[email protected] 01, 2007 05:53 pm
and has been used by many pro-US, pro-free market, presidents.
for example...?
Carlos Andrés Pérez
Jaime Lusinchi
Ramón José Velásquez

From the 70&#39;s through to the 90&#39;s have all been Presidents under who the national assembly as passed enabling acts allowing them the power of rule by decree.

It should also be noted by the Chavez critics that a) He was democraticly elected, recieviong more than half the vote. b) It required a majority vote of the national assembly to pass the enabling act, granting him this power. c) This power dsoesn&#39;t expand to all areas of legislature. d) The term of these powers is limited to 18 months. e) The judiciary remains completly independent and has the power to impeach him if they judge any of his actions to be illegal, or unconstitutional. f) He has no ability to change the constitution. g) democratic elections remain, if the people really dont like something he does they can get rid of him. [/b]
Thnaks for posting that so I didn&#39;t have to.

Sir_No_Sir
3rd February 2007, 01:15
Well, i&#39;m personally hopeful about this, but I&#39;m also cautious. of course, every politician must be watched viligantly, but whent hey get more power even more so. i do support chavez for the most part, though, and i do believe that he will take venezuala in the right direction, which is the left direction.