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Kez
24th February 2002, 12:46
http://www.yfrc.org.uk/html/guerilla_warfare.html

what are your view on this version of guerilla warfare?

comrade kamo

peaccenicked
24th February 2002, 17:43
In a war of revolutionary character, guerrilla operations are a necessary part. This is particularly true in war waged for the emancipation of a people who inhabit a vast nation. China is such a nation, a nation whose techniques are undeveloped and whose communications are poor. She finds herself confronted with a strong and victorious Japanese imperialism. Under these circumstances, the development of the type of guerrilla warfare characterized by the quality of mass is both necessary and natural. This warfare must be developed to an unprecedented degree and it must co-ordinate with the operations of our regular armies. If we fail to do this, we will find it difficult to defeat the enemy.

We in scotland, England, and Wales have to exhaust the democratic process, and if they take that from us,
then we shall see what strategies are needed.

red head
24th February 2002, 19:39
i haven't read it, but i would trust a guy who took over 1/4 of the world to know something about guerilla warfare.

Supermodel
25th February 2002, 18:25
When the democratic wishes of the majority are being squashed by the non-majority government which controls the military and police, then guerrilla cells are necessary to create an army that represents the will of the people, to even the sides and replace leadership with popular government.

This was how the Cuban revolucion started, biut of course not how it progressed.

Moskitto
25th February 2002, 18:51
More like 1/10 of the world. Russia is only 1/5 of the world and a lot bigger than China.

sabre
25th February 2002, 23:55
ive read the complete text - and most of the time he jsut rants on about Japanese imperialism etc.
he also explains how rice is essential to any guerilla movement becouse of its transportability etc. etc.

i really didnt enjoy the book

TovarishAlexandrov
26th February 2002, 08:28
Guerilla war-fare is a great weapon of the opressed against the opressors. It's really the best kind of warfare, and it levels the playing feild a little

anarchoveganLAM
28th February 2002, 00:16
What I do not like about Mao was his war against nature idea. That in my opinion, was very stupid. But, as a revolutionary, yea he had some good ideas about guerilla warfare. He rewrote populism (peoples army, armed revoluton, etc.) into what is now Maoism.

But I'm for freedom, by whatever cost.

FSLNguerrillero
28th February 2002, 01:03
Aye, guerrilla warfare is an excellent way to debilitate a larger foe, but when you think about it, war is war. War doesn't have any rules, and no matter how much people try to deny it, innocent people die. This happens with attacks from both sides...though guerrillas try to keep the people's interest at heart...mostly. I have alot of Colombian friends that are very much against the U.S. backed corrupt government of Pastrana, but they also oppose the FARC. This is because, whether they wanted it or not, guerilla warfare brought more agony and hardships to their homes. It is right for the FARC to fight the para-militares, (who slay anything that even moves like a guerrilla) which are backed by the U.S. and Pastrana. But is it right for them to set off car bombs in places that can potentially kill innocent civilians and destroy sources of electricity and oil? They may be trying to de-stabalize and weaken the government, but they're hurting the very people they're fighting for. I sympathize with the FARC, partly because they've taken it upon themselves to build roads and do things that the govenment is too "busy" to do. But when you fight for the people, you fight for all of them. This is why I think that the most effective and revolutionary group out there is the EZLN (Ejercito Zapatista de Liberacion Nacional). They did not take it upon themselves to fight for the indigenous people, heck, they allow the people to bear arms against both para-militares AND guerrillas. They fight for more rights for the indigenous peoples of Mexico, but not so that the EZLN can take over. They say, that once they establish an atmosphere of free and democratic elections, and begin synthesis of new policies, the rest is up to the people, not the EZLN.
When you look at most opressive governments that are in power, let's say a U.S. backed nationalist one, the government is always searching to squash "traitors." These traitors are usually people who advocate more rights and services for the people and speak against the injustices commited by the head of the state and his subordinates. A revolution occurs, and the opressive government is removed, replaced by many different types of people. Rarely does this group not have one person that is so ambitious, so power-hungry, that they would do anything for it. There are still ideological people who have their people's interests at heart, but these are too naive to see the human nature that always surfaces. The greedy one slowly kills off or exiles all the ones in his way towards total power. Basically, history repeats itself, and you have another government that kills off all the opposition, which is desperately needed for constant change, and progress. (Watch a movie called The Adventurers, it shows it perfectly). The EZLN fight with weapons much mightier than AK-47's. Knowledge. By making their website easy to acces and available to anyone who wishes to see it, the EZLN make it less likely to kill anyone unnecesarily. After their uprising in Chiapas in 1994, the Zapatistas have used information to fight most thier wars, not violence. It is true that sometimes all the people have to resort to is war, but sometimes the pen can be mightier than the sword. To find out more, search for "Zapatistas", or go to www.ezln.org.

Lardlad95
28th February 2002, 02:49
Quote: from Supermodel on 7:25 pm on Feb. 25, 2002
When the democratic wishes of the majority are being squashed by the non-majority government which controls the military and police, then guerrilla cells are necessary to create an army that represents the will of the people, to even the sides and replace leadership with popular government.


Thats a good statement, change should first be attempted through peaceful democratic means, then should the government not comply with the majority vote and only then should the use of guerilla fighters be used.

of course in certain countries (US) that wil never happen because of A. the two party system and B. the fact that alot of people have misconceptions of socialism or communism (based on your stance) because people think it will turn out to be another USSR.

Guest
1st March 2002, 19:27
A good way to get popular support, in any place, by any means is to start off my educating, supporting, and aiding the people you are fighting for. Pamphlets, presentations, books, anything to let people know that your ideas, wether it be communism or socialism, do not coincide with the popular american propaganda, let them know your cause is just, and don't leave them in the dark. Then you should start supporting the people, when an injustice is comminted, be the first to address it and let them know that you are there for them, next you can aid them. In Cuba, at the sierra maestra, Che and The other cubans built stoves, repaired homes, and gave medical aid to the villagers there, something of similar sort can be accomplished in modern society. When popular support is acheived than politics should be utilized, and if even this failed, as did Fidel's attempt to run for congress (they cancelled elections), you may still want to try peacefully, but if in the end there is no peaceful way to accomplish it, than guerilla warefare is a very strong method of acheiving goals.

peaccenicked
1st March 2002, 22:34
I strongly agree, great post.

Rosa
2nd March 2002, 01:34
that guest always sends great posts, but "refuse to fill his machine with cookies". Don't be so cruel, feed it..?..

honest intellectual
2nd March 2002, 15:05
More like 1/10 of the world. Russia is only 1/5 of the world and a lot bigger than China.
I think he meant in terms of population

Kez
3rd March 2002, 13:07
One question that really pisses me off between nostaligic romance, and reality, is that:
Is a violent revolution possibel NOW?

For example, will their be another storming of the winter palance, or of westminster,or of the pentagon?
Only in less developed countries, where maybe socialism insnt even ready to take over.

WTF do we do?

comrade kamo

Parlimentary REvolutionaries?