Good arguments against capitalism

[abbielives!]

what are some simple arguements against caplitalism?
i allways just say profit incentive.
(i have Das Capital on my book shelf, but my eyes glaze over when ever i pick it up)

[Question everything]

I'm not good at it myself, but it is not hard to find them if you're american thiswill work... every american pays 1339$ a year in corperate kick backs... there are alot of other ones like that, I would recommend you find some books written by Noam Chomsky or Michael Moore.

[which doctor]

"If a household gets a washing machine, you never hear the family members who used to do the laundry by hand complain that this “puts them out of work.” But strangely enough, if a similar development occurs on a broader social scale it is seen as a serious problem — “unemployment” — which can only be solved by inventing more jobs for people to do.Proposals to spread the work around by implementing a slightly shorter workweek seem at first sight to address the matter more rationally. But such proposals do not face the fundamental irrationality of the whole social system based on market relations. While reacting to one manifestation of this irrationality (the fact that some people work long hours while others are jobless), they tend at the same time to reinforce the illusion that most present-day work is normal and necessary, as if the only problem were that for some strange reason it is divided up unequally. The absurdity of 90% of existing jobs is never mentioned.

In a sane society, the elimination of all these absurd jobs (not only those that produce or market ridiculous and unnecessary commodities, but the far larger number directly or indirectly involved in promoting and protecting the whole commodity system) would reduce necessary tasks to such a trivial level (probably less than 10 hours per week) that they could easily be taken care of voluntarily and cooperatively, eliminating the need for the whole apparatus of economic incentives and state enforcement.(1)"
-Bureau of Public Secrets

[Question everything]

you got a source for that FoB? cause I wouldn't mind looking in to that

[Janus]

What kind of arguements are you looking for? There are some basic arguements here:

http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=25500

[Nusocialist]

Primitive accumulation is a good argument.

[La Comédie Noire]

Just say Market Forces are profit driven rather then need driven. For instance lets say there was a plot of land if it was more profitable to build a store yet a community was in need of a hospital the store would get built instead. Thats how insane Capitalism is!

[BobKKKindle$]

Why do we live in Poverty?! Under Capitalism one only has access to a good or service if only is able to pay for it. This is because we live under a system were production and distribution it driven by the desire for profit, and so every commodity has a market price. Given the inequality in the distribution of wealth that occurs under Capitalism, this means that ordinary working people are often able to afford basic goods and services that we can consider basic human rights that everyone should be provided with - for example, a basic standard of nutrition, housing, education, and healthcare. An important part of socialism - even parliamentary socialism - involves providing everyone with these basic amenities regardless of income. This is somethat could be accomplished very simply if society was run on the basis of solving the human needs of the many instead of providing income for the few - redistributing the houses of the wealthy to the homeless will certainly not take years of planning, discussion, and organisation.

Work under Capitalism sucks! Workers are forced to subject themselves to the orders and domination of those situated above them in a structured and hierarchical system of workplace organisation where workers have no say in how their workplaces are run and have no ownership of the commodities that they produce. Under Capitalism, work is not part of our personal identity but simply something we do as a means to live.

Basic Stuff. Maybe use the second argument in tandem with FoB's material?

I agree, could FoB please give us a source? That sounds like really interesting material.

[Question everything]

Because capitalism requires a majority of people to be poor, the simplest way to justify that point is this... because do you think if everyone got a million dollars (by that I mean the money fell out of the sky, or something like that) we'd all be rich? capitalism is the rich oppressing the poor and always will be, because it is getting harder and harder to get rich and easier to stay rich...