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Political_Chucky
28th January 2007, 01:05
Is anyone else as pissed of as I am with how the media exploits music? Seriously, I can't turn on the T.V. without seeing some reality show about choosing the "Best" singer or rapper or musician or watever it is, or seeing a commericial that is supposibly "hip-hopish" or trying to be cool. I really can't understand what goes through these people's minds.

For example, I put it on that show on VH1 called the White Rapper show today, which I had seen promos on but never seen it. I am embarressed just watching it. Its like a big joke or something. Hip-hop really has nothing to do with race and shit, but they emphasize on that and plus they put on some wack ass mcs claiming they are legends....come on... I don't know, anyone understand wat I mean?

Cyanide Suicide
28th January 2007, 01:15
Yeah I've seen the commercials for that show and figured it was really lame.

I think it happens a lot with harder music too, like them trying to have everything "hardcore" and whatnot.

Insano
29th January 2007, 23:22
I personally do not like hip-hop at all..more into rock/punk/metal scene(s), but it is just amazing as how as this shitty capitalist empire of "music industry" comp+letle took over a style of music stupposed to be agaisnt something they promote...anyways I think true hip hop listeneers stick with true hip hop..I just don't know it much

how could it end in a bunch of ass holes saying something like "yeah I like it" manyt times for 3 mins, with a bunch of stupid artificial girls shaking their ass on the background, while a fucking expensive car is shown, along with expensive jewlery and the likes..bah, makes me truly sick ...from the ones I "know", the one that seems to be the best example is that one 50 cent...fucking hypocrit ass, with his label controlling millions of "middle class" ( and not only ) teenagers around the world, the perfect preparation to enter this fucking capitalist world, with their minds full of shit, bah!

Pirate Utopian
30th January 2007, 11:57
im sick and tired of everyone talking about "pimping" and blingbling and call it hiphop!
hiphop isnt this greedy cashhungry crap!

Fawkes
30th January 2007, 22:21
50 cent isn't hip-hop, The Game isn't hip-hop, Fat Joe isn't hip-hop, Mystikal isn't hip-hop. I'm so sick of the way the media exploits "hip-hop" and destroys the image of true hip-hop by making it look as if it is violent, materialistic, and misogynistic.

P.S. K-Fed sucks, just thought I'd add that in.

Political_Chucky
30th January 2007, 23:36
Originally posted by [email protected] 30, 2007 02:21 pm
50 cent isn't hip-hop, The Game isn't hip-hop, Fat Joe isn't hip-hop, Mystikal isn't hip-hop. I'm so sick of the way the media exploits "hip-hop" and destroys the image of true hip-hop by making it look as if it is violent, materialistic, and misogynistic.

P.S. K-Fed sucks, just thought I'd add that in.
Nah, sure hip hop is all of that. It can be violent, passive, sexist, it can be anything. It embodies all feelings and views of life. The only problem I have with The Game and 50 cent and Fat Joe (and especially the south) are the songs that bring nothing new to the table. And the reason why these artists keep coming out with the same ol' shit is because the media has exploited these main points (because what sells? Sex and violence) and made it almost a standard to having to be some kind of pimp, drug dealer, or what not.

Another thing that pisses me off about it is the fact that audiences(in general) no longer care about lyrics. If a song got a nice beat, the rapper is automatically considered one of the best, even if the artist had nothing to do with the production of the song. Its just so much shit like that that kills media hip hop.

Hip-Hop use to be much more underground but now that the media has gotten ahold of it, it seems it has lost its value. I ono, i'm sorry if I sound like i'm ranting, but I just needed to let that out :wacko:

And I agree with you, "K-fed" does suck and I think even the media could even see that haha.

Tekun
31st January 2007, 09:25
Hiphop is exploited in so many ways, shapes, and forms
Worst of all, most "MCs" sell themselves for the riches, and thus compromise the credibility and quality of their music
Example: 2pac after "Strictly For My Niggaz" and most mainstream hiphop after 1998

That's one of the reasons why I listen to good lyricsts, past and present who are for the most part shunned by mainstream
And underground hiphop, which for the most part is still true to the game

Don't Change Your Name
31st January 2007, 18:40
Originally posted by [email protected] 27, 2007 10:05 pm
Is anyone else as pissed of as I am with how the media exploits music? Seriously, I can't turn on the T.V. without seeing some reality show about choosing the "Best" singer or rapper or musician or watever it is, or seeing a commericial that is supposibly "hip-hopish" or trying to be cool. I really can't understand what goes through these people's minds.

For example, I put it on that show on VH1 called the White Rapper show today, which I had seen promos on but never seen it. I am embarressed just watching it. Its like a big joke or something. Hip-hop really has nothing to do with race and shit, but they emphasize on that and plus they put on some wack ass mcs claiming they are legends....come on... I don't know, anyone understand wat I mean?
Obviously, music has to be the easiest artform to bastardize: you only need to expose someone to a few minutes of a "catchy to sell records" "song" - no need of doing "boring" stuff like reading, or spending hours in a cinema, or going to a museum.

I'd say that most of this "music" (ie, the one that comes out of "reality shows") is not "art".

And it's common for the "spectacle" to "recover" what is against it, if you know what I mean. It's "tamed" and used for a profit by certain part of the population...you'll have to ignore it. Stop watching VH1.

gilhyle
31st January 2007, 19:00
Originally posted by El Infiltr(A)[email protected] 31, 2007 06:40 pm
Stop watching VH1.
Whatever you do dont do that - then you would miss the pleasure of hating, and you would non longer know the world around you as well as you do....its your revolutionary duty to watch programmes you dont like. :P