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The Grey Blur
25th January 2007, 23:09
Saw this online somewhere...so was Lee Harvey Oswald (the guy who shot Kennedy) a Marxist?
Aurora
25th January 2007, 23:28
He certainly claimed to be.But it seems like a pretty stupid thing to do for a marxist.
bcbm
26th January 2007, 00:30
He was just somebody who wanted to be important, hence the defecting back and forth and the assassination thing. He might've been a Marxist, but mostly he just wanted to be remembered. Looks like he got that one covered pretty well.
Hiero
26th January 2007, 11:10
Someone can be a Marxist, and yet still have severe problems. It is not like Marxist are always righteous people.
bcbm
26th January 2007, 17:14
Originally posted by black coffee black
[email protected] 25, 2007 06:30 pm
He might've been a Marxist, but mostly he just wanted to be remembered.
That is pretty much what I said.
dogwoodlover
26th January 2007, 20:53
What about all those theories of the CIA/FBI being behind Kennedys assassination?
A Marxist would have been a handy scapegoat to take the fall, though it never seemed that him being a Marxist was played up.
chimx
26th January 2007, 21:17
Originally posted by
[email protected] 26, 2007 08:53 pm
What about all those theories of the CIA/FBI being behind Kennedys assassination?
Those are totally fabricated conspiracies grounding in ZERO evidence. I wish there were more YaBB tags to emphasize that.
As far as Oswald, he most certainly thought of himself as a Marxist and had done so for years and years. He tried to apply for residency in the Soviet Union, but was rejected in the end after living there for a few years.
Eventually he came back to the U.S., tried to assassinate an anti-communist army general, and then assassinated JFK a few years later.
Then he got shot, and the rest is history.
Janus
28th January 2007, 20:34
He certainly thought of himself as a Marxist but his committment and knowledge of Marxism is probably debatable of course.
Fawkes
28th January 2007, 21:19
When it comes to Leftist assassinators of American Presidents, I'm more inclined to go for Leon Czolgosz, the anarchist that assassinated McKinnley.
bezdomni
29th January 2007, 00:26
He was a nutter.
Lived in the USSR for a while, but they wouldn't give him citizenship. He left after a few years because he began to hate it. His wife was Russian.
OneBrickOneVoice
29th January 2007, 02:55
yes he was in charge of the fair play for cuba comittee so he probably was a marxist, and why the hell does everyone think the assasination was so bad?
Kropotkin Has a Posse
29th January 2007, 03:42
LBJ in charge was worse, as far as Vietnam.
Red Menace
29th January 2007, 04:39
Here's what wikipedia said
"Around the age of fifteen, he became an ardent Marxist solely from reading about the topic. He wrote in his diary, "I was looking for a key to my environment, and then I discovered socialist literature. I had to dig for my books in the back dusty shelves of libraries.""
Andy Bowden
30th January 2007, 16:18
I don't know if Oswald was genuinely a Marxist or not, or if he at least thought he was one but theres considerable evidence to suggest that he was involved with US intelligence.
For example, returning from the Soviet Union, he was not arrested - despite an atmosphere of witchunts, and the fact that he had defected to an enemy power with knowledge of the US's U2 spying operations.
They let him bring back a Russian wife ffs :wacko:
And theres also the fact that Oswald hung around with White Russian exiles, and French ex-Vichyists like George de Mohrenschildt.
Or that some of the "Fair Play for Cuba Committee" leaflets Oswald gave out had a stamp on them of an ANTI-Castro organisations HQ.
The dodginess of Oswald is the best evidence for a conspiracy IMO.
Fawkes
31st January 2007, 03:09
and why the hell does everyone think the assasination was so bad?
Who thinks that?
chimx
31st January 2007, 03:14
considerable evidence
Nothing you said is evidence.
Comrade Marcel
31st January 2007, 04:50
Fuck JFK. Anyone who thinks Oswald couldn't be a Marxist cuz he killed this prick (if he did) is more questionable than LHO IMO.
Andy Bowden
31st January 2007, 10:53
The fact that Oswald - someone giving out leaflets for a PRO-Castro organisation had the stamp of an address from ANTI-Castro headquarters doesn't ring any alarm bells?
Or that he managed to get back into the US without any kind of repercussion for defecting - despite the fact he was a part of the US's U2 operations?
To expand on the Cuban connection, when Oswald was arrested for getting into a brawl with an anti-Castro activist the police officer who arrested him described the scene as being staged.
And this is before we get into the fake Oswald spotted trying to get a Cuban visa in Mexico city.
Theres way more to this than just a some lone nut librarian.
Red October
31st January 2007, 15:43
he could've just been one of those people who are fascinated with marxism because it makes them out to be some sort of rebel, while not actually believing it that much.
Fawkes
1st February 2007, 02:47
I think that if he was a Marxist, the U.S. gov't would've taken advantage of that and used it to denounce Marxism in a manner similar to how the U.S. gov't used the fact that an anarchist assassinated McKinnley to denounce anarchism as a whole. For this reason, I find it somewhat unlikely that he was a Marxist.
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