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anarchist
25th January 2007, 08:12
81% of the people agree that phone tapping and opening private mail is necessary to prevent terrorism!
and 71% think that manditory ID cards are necessary.

I believe that this is the begining of the end if this actually went into affect.
what do you guys think...


source (http://infowars.net/articles/january2007/240107Freedom.htm)

RedAnarchist
25th January 2007, 15:13
I suppose that is what will happen after nearly 6 years of a so-called "War" on Terror. The British public have been hooked already by the Government, now the Government is reeling them in. We may still have more civil liberties than the Americans do, but what happens there usually comes here sooner or later.

Knight of Cydonia
25th January 2007, 15:31
quoting the source (http://infowars.net/articles/january2007/240107Freedom.htm):

phone tapping,the opening of private mail
this is ridicilous <_<

Hate Is Art
25th January 2007, 15:48
As soon as I&#39;ve finished my degree I&#39;ve leaving this country, I&#39;d decided that before any of this though. We really are going to the dogs - and not in the daily mail kinda way. In a very sad way. This horrible little Island might as well sink into the sea.

Janus
25th January 2007, 22:31
But the Report from NatCen also finds that some freedoms are apparently too valuable for the
public to be prepared to give up, although a minority do think they are ‘a price worth paying’:
• 76% think that torturing terror suspects in British jails to get information is unacceptable, even
if it is that the only way the information can be obtained; 22% think this is ‘a price worth
paying’.
• 63% think that banning certain peaceful protests and demonstrations is unacceptable; 35%
think this is ‘a price worth paying’.
• 50% think that denying the right to a trial by jury to people charged with a terrorist-related crime is unacceptable; 45% think this is ‘a price worth paying’.
At least they haven&#39;t given up their committment to some freedoms.

Intifada
25th January 2007, 22:35
It is ironic that at the same time so many Brits tune into "Big Brother" on the TV, the government is turning this country into an Orwellian nightmare.

It saddens me.

Cyanide Suicide
25th January 2007, 22:38
Originally posted by Digital [email protected] 25, 2007 03:48 pm
As soon as I&#39;ve finished my degree I&#39;ve leaving this country, I&#39;d decided that before any of this though. We really are going to the dogs - and not in the daily mail kinda way. In a very sad way. This horrible little Island might as well sink into the sea.
Any idea where you&#39;ll be going?

@topic:

Very sad, I&#39;m a bit surprised at that high of a number though.

Kia
25th January 2007, 23:00
QUOTE
But the Report from NatCen also finds that some freedoms are apparently too valuable for the
public to be prepared to give up, although a minority do think they are ‘a price worth paying’:
• 76% think that torturing terror suspects in British jails to get information is unacceptable, even
if it is that the only way the information can be obtained; 22% think this is ‘a price worth
paying’.
• 63% think that banning certain peaceful protests and demonstrations is unacceptable; 35%
think this is ‘a price worth paying’.
• 50% think that denying the right to a trial by jury to people charged with a terrorist-related crime is unacceptable; 45% think this is ‘a price worth paying’.


The last one is scary. 45%......england is beginning to seem more and more like america these days. and banning peaceful protests and demonstrations? Why is this even deemed acceptable...they&#39;re peaceful....i thought the english public supported the idea of freedom of speech.....i guess not......

Janus
25th January 2007, 23:07
The last one is scary. 45%......england is beginning to seem more and more like america these days. and banning peaceful protests and demonstrations? Why is this even deemed acceptable...they&#39;re peaceful....i thought the english public supported the idea of freedom of speech.....i guess not......
Those stats are supposed to show that the British don&#39;t consider all violations of personal rights to be acceptable.