Originally posted by SovietPants+January 25, 2007 08:27 pm--> (SovietPants @ January 25, 2007 08:27 pm)
Originally posted by
[email protected] 25, 2007 03:45 am
[email protected] 24, 2007 05:24 pm
when in fact the "communist" system in the Soviet union wasn't much liberal nor leftist at all.
How was it not leftist? :blink:
how bout the fact htat it was a totalitarianistic regime that gave little to no personal rights?
I am pretty sure totalitarianistic is not a word.
Individual rights were not that restricted in the USSR anyway...
Regardless, the means of production were not owned by private individuals, and surplus value was not extracted from the workers by private individuals for financial investment...so yes, it was leftist. [/b]
Yes, it was privately owned; by the state. And surplus value was extracted by the managerial class to enrich themselves and the inner party members.
Because as you know, being chauffeured in ZIL limos does not hint at differinng class interests at all. :rolleyes:
http://homepage2.nifty.com/backyard1/auto/photo_L/images/gorby_l.jpg
For some time now, I'm pretty sure that there has been a consensus on this board that the Soviet Union was state-capitalist. There's no need bring up the issue again.