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Revalation
19th January 2007, 01:08
I have been doing a bit of research into these boys and the word is that it is leaderless resistance. Racist cells just claim the name and it has no really membership base or structure but I have also seen videos of what seems to be combat 18 press releases what is the truth?

Revalation
19th January 2007, 01:17
I am aware that there organistion has been blamed for various operations but was it an organisation or an independant cell?

A SCANNER DARKLY
19th January 2007, 01:44
I don't think the organzation exists anymore. But people and various groups claim Combat 18 like leftists claim "Antifa" like it's just the group name they're under.

redcannon
19th January 2007, 01:50
they probably claim to be Combat 18 for the fancy stickers and some kind of name they can associate themselves with. Because deep down, every Nazi is a shy, insecure person trying to be liked. :lol: :lol:

Free Leonard Peltier
19th January 2007, 03:52
Last I heard it was a full organization, a shit storm nevertheless, and it's existance can be questioned also. It might have died, but still, with every org you still have the nutjobs who still support a dead name.

ahab
19th January 2007, 04:38
together or not it doesnt fucking matter the point is that there are rednecks running around with guns and that = bad!

Louis Pio
19th January 2007, 04:43
Last time we heard of C18 here In Denmark was when the send a bomb to another nazi group. However many think they were the ones responisble for the bomb that blew up at the IS headquarters in 1992 (danish SWP), killed one of their members.

Free Leonard Peltier
19th January 2007, 05:35
Let them kill eachother off. Their "movement" will die within anyways.

An archist
19th January 2007, 09:09
Well, I don't think it's like a nazi form of antifa, there have been known to be fights between c18 and blood and honour and probably some other groups too.

Forward Union
19th January 2007, 10:04
Combat does exist in the United Kingdom/Ulster.

It has about 100-200 members though this is probably exaggerated. It doesn't do anything really, it's practically dead but it's members are still a danger to class conscious individuals that live in the same community.

I have personally been attacked by these nutters. And one of the head honchos of Blood and honour, Andy Frain actually drinks in a pub down the road from me.

C18 has been behind the 3 Brixton bombings, one set off in a multiracial market place, one intended to be in a police station (but blew up in someone's car) and one set of at a Gay bar. A lot of people died including a pregnant woman, and a lot more people lost limbs. They also sent a nail bomb to the BNP headquaters.

So yea, they're not very active or organised, overall, but they're full of the nutters that probably would kill you. And I doubt you can go to a Chelsea game without seeing their banners.

Kaelin
19th January 2007, 10:24
did you see that program on the Brixton bombings recently? The prevalence of such attitudes and activities is definitely something to act on and be worried about...

Gotta feel sorry for ya Love Underground m8 - they don't have such a visible extremist presence near me - the BNP have gone 'respectable' but there's a strong underground presence of the more extremist groups e.g. Combat 18/Blood and Honour etc. :( - still, at least in ur case I suppose u have easy, viable targets...

Revalation
19th January 2007, 12:00
I read a case study on the soho, brixton bombings carried out by David copeland and it seems that a combat 18 spliter cell called the white wolfes helped him prepare the bombs.

Forward Union
19th January 2007, 13:22
Originally posted by [email protected] 19, 2007 12:00 pm
I read a case study on the soho, brixton bombings carried out by David copeland and it seems that a combat 18 spliter cell called the white wolfes helped him prepare the bombs.
The white wolves don't really exist, they were just a banner under which some members operated, to excuse C18 from any legal attachment to the fucking murders.

Vanguard1917
19th January 2007, 13:34
It has about 100-200 members though this is probably exaggerated.

Well there we go then. An 'organisation' filled with as little as 100 members - many of whom are washed-up, out-of-shape boneheads approaching 40, who spend the majority of their time in the pub discussing how much they hate 'pakis', 'darkies', 'joos', 'reds' and 'eemiegrayshun' - is not something that should worry us.

The days when the British far-right required groups like Combat 18 are gone.

Lord Testicles
19th January 2007, 16:20
Originally posted by [email protected] 19, 2007 02:34 pm

It has about 100-200 members though this is probably exaggerated.

Well there we go then. An 'organisation' filled with as little as 100 members - many of whom are washed-up, out-of-shape boneheads approaching 40, who spend the majority of their time in the pub discussing how much they hate 'pakis', 'darkies', 'joos', 'reds' and 'eemiegrayshun' - is not something that should worry us.
You do realise that the brixton bombings didn't happen that long ago, I'm talking 1999, so to write them off as something that " shouldn't worry us" is a bit naive IMO.

Kaelin
19th January 2007, 16:43
I agree with you there Skinz m8 - an organisation with 100 members, particularly Nazis, can be bloody dangerous if they put their minds to it - the prevalence of such groups and their actions merely inspires other groups to form and spread their messages of hatred and bigotry

Vanguard1917
19th January 2007, 17:10
Originally posted by Skinz+January 19, 2007 04:20 pm--> (Skinz @ January 19, 2007 04:20 pm)
[email protected] 19, 2007 02:34 pm

It has about 100-200 members though this is probably exaggerated.

Well there we go then. An 'organisation' filled with as little as 100 members - many of whom are washed-up, out-of-shape boneheads approaching 40, who spend the majority of their time in the pub discussing how much they hate 'pakis', 'darkies', 'joos', 'reds' and 'eemiegrayshun' - is not something that should worry us.
You do realise that the brixton bombings didn't happen that long ago, I'm talking 1999, so to write them off as something that " shouldn't worry us" is a bit naive IMO. [/b]
Those attacks were carried out by a single individual - David Copeland - a young man who was a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic.

The attacks weren't evidence of a wider fascist threat in society. Instead, they had more in common with the Columbine High School massacre in the US (which coincidentally took place in the same month of the same year - April 1999) - a freak attack carried out by a freak isolated individual (or two individuals in the Columbine case).

There's not much that society can do to protect itself against such attacks. Their very freakish nature makes them quite impossible to predict.

Organic Revolution
19th January 2007, 17:38
from wikipedia, "Combat 18 is still in existence. With money raised from events such as small musical concerts, C18 hope to build their organisation; a recent internet broadcast showed a balaclava-wearing American member sitting in a room with a blacked out background: "The reason we've been so quiet recently is because we've been doing a lot of reorganising. Mainly in the form of active service units. For any of you that have any doubts on where the money's gone", he cocks a pistol, "Its gone on these. Now, the war is coming."

Forward Union
19th January 2007, 17:59
Here is said video, but the guy is English

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nRGN0NKMMY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiPQbN6JQ88

And if that depresses you check out the people of london rallying against the bnp;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8pVuIbknd4

Honggweilo
19th January 2007, 18:36
Originally posted by An [email protected] 19, 2007 09:09 am
Well, I don't think it's like a nazi form of antifa, there have been known to be fights between c18 and blood and honour and probably some other groups too.
isnt the encouragement of violence and petty honour inherent to the fascist theory of "progress" through war?

Honggweilo
19th January 2007, 18:47
Some of the movie samples in there arent even fascist :lol:, i know for a fact that one of the streetfights where from polish hooligans of Legia Warschaw, which arent nessesarily fascists. Also, the clips of nazi's getting into a fight what apears to be anitfa members is sad aswell, since he gets kick in the stomach 3 times and all he does is flinching.