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Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg
18th January 2007, 16:41
marx was very vauge about this, and times have changed....so :What would the post-revolution society look like and how would you obtain things and stop people from being greedy?:

1) how would you get your need i.e food and clothes and stop people takimg advantage?- a voucher system?

2)what about activities like boxing or going to the cinema would they be free - but then theyd be full - maybe a limit i.e once a fortnight to go to the cinema

3)would production keep up with demand?

Forward Union
18th January 2007, 18:10
Originally posted by Y Chwildro Comiwnyddol [email protected] 18, 2007 04:41 pm
1) how would you get your need i.e food and clothes and stop people takimg advantage?- a voucher system?

No I'd just take it.


2)what about activities like boxing or going to the cinema would they be free - but then theyd be full - maybe a limit i.e once a fortnight to go to the cinema

I guess it'd be first come first seve, but it's be up to the community to decide how they would run their own cinemas and arenas. I can't tell you what the people will decide on such local-specific things, I can only tell you how they will go about deciding.


would production keep up with demand?

If by demand you mean need? then yes. If a community need however much food to survive, then it would be up to that community to produce that much food or get it off someone else.

More Fire for the People
18th January 2007, 21:39
1) how would you get your need i.e food and clothes and stop people takimg advantage?- a voucher system?
I think something akin to a voucher system may be useful. For x amount of labor-power input you receive y amount of items.


2)what about activities like boxing or going to the cinema would they be free - but then theyd be full - maybe a limit i.e once a fortnight to go to the cinema

Why? Movies and sports tend to be products of post-scarcity societies. There's no need to put a quota on products in large supply.


3)would production keep up with demand?
Consumers’ councils, public databases, and other methods of record keeping and prediction would probably keep production in line with demand.

which doctor
18th January 2007, 22:17
1) how would you get your need i.e food and clothes and stop people takimg advantage?- a voucher system?
Well, how exactly would someone take advantage? In today's society people often "take advantage" for profit. With profits and capitalism gone, why exactly would someone take more than they really needed. People would simply take and give as they please.


2)what about activities like boxing or going to the cinema would they be free - but then theyd be full - maybe a limit i.e once a fortnight to go to the cinema
Yes, they would be free. And yes, maybe they would be full (but I doubt they would be full much of the time). If one particular event was crowded all the time, then why not host another event to handle the spillover. "Tickets" might be distributed first-come, first-serve.


3)would production keep up with demand?
In some cases yes, in some cases no, just like how it is now. Councils of consumers, distributors, producers would communicate with eachother instantly (the internet is a wonderful thing) so that everyone is in line and production is kept up to demand as much as it can.

BobKKKindle$
19th January 2007, 14:59
1) how would you get your need i.e food and clothes and stop people takimg advantage?- a voucher system?

Remember that Capitalism is not just a form of economic organisation (or, as we Marxists say, a mode of production) but also gives rise to a series of social relationships, which affect the way we percieve ourselves, the society in which we live, and others. Under Socialism, Humans would act in a different way by virtue of the fact that they live under a different economic system. Thus, for commodities of abundance, it would be possible to have a system whereby any individual is able to take what they desire from a communal inventory. For commodities that are extremely scarce, a ration or voucher system may be implemented. But remember that under Capitalism, a great amount of labour is expended on socially-unproductive economic activity, for example, advertisng and the production of luxury goods. If this labour were expended on producing useful goods, scarcity would not be a problem of such magnitude as under Capitalist society, given that production is undertaken in the interests of human need rather than profitability. For the same reason, we would also have a shorter working week which would no doubt shorten with further technical innovation.


2)what about activities like boxing or going to the cinema would they be free - but then theyd be full - maybe a limit i.e once a fortnight to go to the cinema

If it occurred that there were insufficient spaces to meet demand, then the community would simply endeavour to expand the capacity of seating. Remember that all economic resources would be under the control of the people. Until then, a system of fairness, for example, first come first served, would be implemented.


3)would production keep up with demand?

Yes. Communism would not experience the dramatic fluctuations in economic strength and activity typical of the Capitalist mode of production. Commodities would not be artifically destroyed in order to support higher prices. And as I noted above, all resources would be pressed into the production of goods deemed useful by the general community, not goods that support a profit-based system.