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Vargha Poralli
15th January 2007, 14:20
I came across this article in ISR (http://www.isreview.org/issues/51/cuba_image&reality.shtml). It raises many points which i would like share with comrades who defend Cuba.

The reason i find this particular article interesting is :


(From the article)

In many instances, the defense of Cubas right to independence and against the U.S. embargo is coupled with a political identification with Castros government. Any criticism of Cuba is seen as playing into the hands of imperialism and therefore off-limits. Evidence of problems, at least as the Left might identify themif acknowledged at allare excused as necessary or unavoidable distortions resulting from the embargo. The more honest or open-eyed of the friends, at least when speaking tte--tte, wrote Trotsky of the apologists for Stalins Russia, concede that there is a spot on the Soviet sun. But substituting a fatalistic for a dialectic analysis, they console themselves with the thought that a certain bureaucratic degeneration in the given conditions was historically inevitable. Defenders of Cuba, at least the less starry-eyed, make the same argument. But as Trotsky wrote, The stupidity and dishonesty of ones enemies, in this case U.S. imperialism, is no justification for ones own blindness.

Discuss

Edit: BTW that article is polemic to this article (http://socialismandliberation.org/mag/index.php?aid=639)

PRC-UTE
15th January 2007, 23:08
I don't think it's true that those who support the Cuban Revolution do so blindly, for starters.

I do find it odd that you get left wing groups often based in the first world, with no direct experience of Cuba who criticise the revolutionaries there.

Vargha Poralli
16th January 2007, 04:37
Originally posted by PRC-[email protected] 16, 2007 04:38 am
I don't think it's true that those who support the Cuban Revolution do so blindly, for starters.

I do find it odd that you get left wing groups often based in the first world, with no direct experience of Cuba who criticise the revolutionaries there.
No comrade I would like to discuss the various points made in that article about the democratic representation of people and economic relations etc. I have no idea about the Cuban situation.


I do find it odd that you get left wing groups often based in the first world, with no direct experience of Cuba who criticise the revolutionaries there.

I agree comrade especially ICFI makes that ultra left sectarian error.But I never thought that IST also makes that error.

manic expression
17th January 2007, 22:43
The US' stance on Cuba is important because it shows the political and economic hardships that the island has had to endure for the past half-century. The key here is that in spite of the crippling US embargoes, Cuba maintains a healthcare system, education system and other societal aspects that rival developed nations (nations that are not burdened by such embargoes). In addition, the biggest reason why the US takes such a stance on Cuba is that Cuba siezed US assets on the island (imperialist assets) and distributed them to the people. There are many other reasons why I think the Cuban people and the Cuban government should be supported, but those are a few, and they especially pertain to the bolded comments.