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red head
10th December 2001, 23:32
i've been thinking a lot about politics lately, and have come to realize that maoism is the best political philosophy. it seems to be the only theory that realizes that one system won't work in every country. it is truly internationalist, and rather than impose one system on everyone, they try to invision the best system for each nation. while council communists say "anarchism would be great if it would work, but this is the best system there can be." maoists say "we will progress towards anarchy by figuring out the best system for every country and going on from there." trotskyism has contradictions within itself "one party and free speach" and is often dogmatic (militaristically imposing one system on the world). stalinism is brutal and racist, and anarchists seem to want a system that the world is not ready for. only maoism is willing to take the logical steps towards a better society, even if that means imposing a dictatorship on third world nations, as democracy is only viable in more industrial countries. i sincerely believe it is the true path towards betterment of the world.

Markxs
11th December 2001, 01:21
who are you thinking of the rich in the western world or the poor in 3rd world. i think maoism is kind of crap because it is like capitalism a system for the rich !

Karo Chevez
11th December 2001, 06:13
We could debate and compare the various forms of
socialism,some would ultimately side with Lenin,Mao,
Stalin,Trotsky,etc,however we must accept that any
socialism,just as any human,is going to have both its
good and bad qualities and the best we could do is
select the redeeming qualities of each and make the
extra effort of combining these with the ideas of the
most recent socialist thinkers as well as brainstorming
amongst ourselves in search of innovations which will
assist in the formation of a truly democratic ideology.
Mao may have proposed form of socialism in which
each nation could determine its own individual views
and policies by which to insure a society founded on
a progressive socialist ideology.In considering the
individual constitution of man,that ones mans food is
another mans poison and that we are not all blessed
with the same gifts and talents,that some excel in
physical strength while others possess a masterful
intellect,some have skill,others ability,those who cant
teach,unfortunately equality is too often a wonderful
sentiment and we must never forget that nature by
means of genetics and environmental conditioning
doesnt make men equal,we must enforce equality by
means of human intervention,it is afterall an idea of
human thought conceived in order to balance that
which nature has bequeathed.In the substructure of
economics which promotes the wage-scale we come
into contact with this imbalanced feind which bases its
injunctions on the grounds that those whom nature
has blessed with talent,ability,cunning,and intellect
should be moreso financially rewarded than those of
little or no talent,ability,cunning,nor intellect,these are
the fundamentals of capitalist reasoning.In a socialist
society both the wage-scale and the yoke of interest
would be forever broken.To determine skill and ability
an aptitude test would be given to workers by which
their performance would be judged,workers would be
expected to perform at par with their overall aptitude
results by which less capable workers and more gifted
workers would share the responsibility of the tasks in
harmony with their full potential and at peace with one
another and a standardized wage would assure that a
true equality rules the workplace.A workers committee
composed of employees themselves who would appoint
a chairman to officiate could assign tasks and oversee
production,maintenance,and labor relations in an orderly
democratic fashion thus eliminating the role of a single
boss who has for too long received the highest wages
and lorded it over all other employees.By nationalization
of major industries,banking,insurance,telephone,electric,
airports,internet services,etc,all workers would become
state employees,and by state control of insurance firms,
the breaking of interest,and a standardized wage,there
would be little need in attorneys who have lied,cheated,
and bamboozled honest people out of their money and
possessions.Both education and medicine would become
socialized and social security and retirement are in need
of socialization as well being based on household and
governed by a common rate per person allowing for no
differences in ones chosen occupation.I have witnessed
the injustice of pencil pushers making ridiculous saleries
while those who strain and bust their backs make only a
fraction in pay,I have witnessed hard-working hispanic
women toiling as room maids,changing the linens,clean
the toilets,push over-loaded large laundry carts,while a
slender blonde or some well-groomed fellow stands at
the front desk with pen in hand and smile on their face
receiving a larger wage than the room maids who earn
their pay.It is the broom and mop pushers,custodians,
burger-flippers,etc,these are the workers,not the suit and tie capitalist cronies that know only how to extort,
exploit,and embezzle in their endless pursuit of wealth
at any and all costs.It is time to realize and accept the
truth and stop playing games by politicizing,analyzing,
and theorizing upon socialist issues for Marx himself has
said that theory has gone as far as it can,we must more
theory into practice,that philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways,the point is to change it.There is no middle ground,one is either for
socialism or is against it,lukewarm is nothing!-Karo

Kez
11th December 2001, 17:59
Arnt the stongest leftist rebels the maoists?
such as those is nepal, who are proper pounding the imf worshipping government?

comrade kamo

Moskitto
11th December 2001, 20:47
I think out of the people that call themselves "Communists" I wouldn't be surprised if most of them are Maoists. Although there might be more Luxemburgists.

Either way Maoists are probably the most armed.

jimr
11th December 2001, 21:02
Armed rebellion is of no use unless it is supported by the peasants as was clearly shown in Che's Bolivian campaign. Technology means that you cannot, as a political entity, stand up to a super power via armed uprising. You are simply labeled a terrorist and then your screwed cause the world will hate you and will not care if you are massacred, and so America etc will be able to use the dirty tactics safe in the knowledge that there will be little or no complaint.

red head
11th December 2001, 22:48
markxs- maoism like capitalism? maybe you're thinking of china under deng or jiang. mao executed many powerful landlords. i have a chinese friend who's father was not allowed to go to a certain college just because his grandfather was wealthy. how is this pro-rich?

karo- i think maoism is the solution to the problem you explain. maoism seems to be the idea that one man's thought isn't always right, including mao's, and that different systems are good for different areas. and under your proposed system would an aptitude test work? seems like it'd be easy to cheat on. and if a council of workers chose the boss, what would keep the boss from giving them more than the others? how would the goods be distributed to the people fairly?

kamo- yep, those are the maoists in nepal, as are the shining path and red path guerillas in peru.