Why did Beijing support Gyanendra's dicatorship

[Cheung Mo]

I've read statements from both revolutionaries and democrats condemning Beijing -- along with Washington and Londn -- for arming and funding the Nepal Royal Army.

1. Has anybody else heard and believed this? I personally believe that this is true, although you probably all figured that out from my user name.

2. If this is true, would this make Beijing as much an enemy to socialism and to the people as Washington is?

[Karl Marx's Camel]

Did you have any doubts on the notion that China is a bourgeois dictatorship?

[Vargha Poralli]

1. Has anybody else heard and believed this?

Yes.


2. If this is true, would this make Beijing as much an enemy to socialism and to the people as Washington is?

Strange question !!! Since when the PRC had been a friend to Socialism and Socialists ?

[Brownfist]

1. There have been numerous reports in which Beijing has supported the RNA. The Chinese party has also clearly disassociated itself from the CPN(M) stating that they do not believe that the CPN(M) are Maoists. There were some accusations made in the early stages of the people's war, and still by some elements of the Hindu reactionary movement in India, that claim that China and/or Pakistan has been funding the PLA and trying to destabilize Nepal and India concurrently, however, there has been plenty of evidence to refute this. Indeed there have been some suggestions that if the Maoists were to have a complete revolution that the Indians and/or Chinese would invade Nepal and restore the monarchy.

2. I think that Beijing was a friend and did support socialism till about 1972. Although, some people would argue with me that actually they were friends till about 1976, when Mao died and the Deng clique took over, but I would argue that if we see monetary and material support national liberation movements, it actually dries up by 1972. This is especially true due to the Nixon visit to China in that same year. However, prior to that we cannot deny that the PRC was actively supporting socialism around the world in a meaningful way of course this is when every Trot (including Severian) jump in and give me their utopian views on international proletarian revolution.

[Severian]

Originally posted by Cheung [email protected] 14, 2007 07:07 am
1. Has anybody else heard and believed this? I personally believe that this is true, although you probably all figured that out from my user name.
It's a documented fact, whether anyone "believes" it or not.


2. If this is true, would this make Beijing as much an enemy to socialism and to the people as Washington is?

Of course they're an enemy of working people, ask any protesting Chinese worker who's been in a fight with the riot police. "As much" an enemy? How do you measure that?

Certainly nobody's compelled to take exactly the same attitude towards all our enemies. That would exclude all possibility of strategy and tactics....

[Janus]

2. If this is true, would this make Beijing as much an enemy to socialism and to the people as Washington is?
Not as much, I think the PRC mainly got involved here because of Nepal's proximity to its own border whereas the US is willingly to interfere in any country on the globe.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

2. I think that Beijing was a friend and did support socialism till about 1972. Although, some people would argue with me that actually they were friends till about 1976, when Mao died and the Deng clique took over, but I would argue that if we see monetary and material support national liberation movements, it actually dries up by 1972. This is especially true due to the Nixon visit to China in that same year. However, prior to that we cannot deny that the PRC was actively supporting socialism around the world in a meaningful way of course this is when every Trot (including Severian) jump in and give me their utopian views on international proletarian revolution.

China WAS socialist until 1976, weither or not it stopped supporting national liberation groups I would like to see a source. More precisely, it was 1978 that the people's communes were abolished and state-capitalism was all but restored.

[Demogorgon]

Originally posted by Cheung [email protected] 14, 2007 01:07 pm
I've read statements from both revolutionaries and democrats condemning Beijing -- along with Washington and Londn -- for arming and funding the Nepal Royal Army.

1. Has anybody else heard and believed this? I personally believe that this is true, although you probably all figured that out from my user name.

2. If this is true, would this make Beijing as much an enemy to socialism and to the people as Washington is?
You shoulld check what the guy in your avatar has to say about these sort of events. There is a reason why he calls Beijing and Washington "The twin pillars of fascism".

[Comrade_Scott]

I dont doubt it. Nepal i think is close to china and im damn well sure that china would want to suppress any rebellion so close to them lest the Chinese people get that itch for change. and as far as china being socialist they havent been socialist for some 30 years why in the hall would they support a peoples revolution??

[Honggweilo]

China WAS socialist until 1976, weither or not it stopped supporting national liberation groups I would like to see a source.

Official source;

Originally posted by The People's Daily

China opposes calling Nepalese rebels "Maoist"

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Kong Quan said China respects the Nepali people's decision to choose their own path of development and hopes its neighbour is able to achieve national reconciliation and economic development.

However, the spokesman also expressed indignation at foreign media who call Nepal's anti-government rebels "Maoists", which stains the memory of the great leader of the Chinese revolution, Chairman Mao Zedong.

The Nepali King Gyanendra announced Tuesday that he has dissolved the coalition government, led by Prime Minister Sher Bahadur Deuba and has formed his own.

Nepal's new Home Minister Dan Bahadur Shahi has called on anti-government rebels to resume peace talks with the government as soon as possible.


Although i take the stance of, "there is maybe still a socialist developement possible" in China. I find this stance, as i find many ambiguous stances by the market revisionist PRC goverment, intollerable and discusting :blink: :angry: