Cydonia

[Knight of Cydonia]

Cydonia mars face (http://www.mt.net/~watcher/mars.html)

what's your opinion? is there really are a civilization on the other planet such as Mars?

[Dimentio]

Hahaha... I do not actually believe that, it is extremely unlikely, even though Mars may have had water some million years ago.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Hahaha... I do not actually believe that, it is extremely unlikely, even though Mars may have had water some million years ago.

yes...

but, out of curiousity... how can we explain about that "face look a like" thing ?

[Dimentio]

Originally posted by knight of [email protected] 11, 2007 07:56 pm

Hahaha... I do not actually believe that, it is extremely unlikely, even though Mars may have had water some million years ago.

yes...

but, out of curiousity... how can we explain about that "face look a like" thing ?
There are similar natural cliffs on Earth, and the cliff actually looks less like a face with a more sharp camera.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2007 02:59 am
There are similar natural cliffs on Earth, and the cliff actually looks less like a face with a more sharp camera.
probably...

but why did NASA has never explain this thing? otherwise they remain silence.

[Dimentio]

Originally posted by knight of cydonia+January 11, 2007 08:02 pm--> (knight of cydonia @ January 11, 2007 08:02 pm)
[email protected] 12, 2007 02:59 am
There are similar natural cliffs on Earth, and the cliff actually looks less like a face with a more sharp camera.
probably...

but why did NASA has never explain this thing? otherwise they remain silence. [/b]
They say that it is a natural cliff.

[MrDoom]

All the 'face' proves is how good the human brain is at simulation and pattern recognition.

[Janus]

The "face" appearance depends on the viewing angle and the angle of illumination.

Mars probe pic (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/45/MGS_Cydonia3.jpg)

[Sentinel]

Originally posted by From the link
This embellishment is strikingly familiar to the headdresses worn by Egyptian and Mayan royalty. There was also a conspicuous absence of facial hair on the effigy, implying that it was either a young man , or a woman . This would support the contention that the Egyptian sphinx represents a cherubim, while also representing the beginning and the end of the Gospel in the stars, the zodiac...Virgo and Leo. Since previous pages established that pre-fall civilizations of cherubim, headed by Satan, lived on the "rolling stones of fire", the planets, it isn't surprising to see the representation of a cherub on Mars.

This isn't the sort of 'science' we discuss in the Sciences and Environment forum of this board.

I'm moving this to Religion and Theology for now..

[Knight of Cydonia]

Originally posted by Sentinel+January 12, 2007 09:49 pm--> (Sentinel @ January 12, 2007 09:49 pm)
From the link
This embellishment is strikingly familiar to the headdresses worn by Egyptian and Mayan royalty. There was also a conspicuous absence of facial hair on the effigy, implying that it was either a young man , or a woman . This would support the contention that the Egyptian sphinx represents a cherubim, while also representing the beginning and the end of the Gospel in the stars, the zodiac...Virgo and Leo. Since previous pages established that pre-fall civilizations of cherubim, headed by Satan, lived on the "rolling stones of fire", the planets, it isn't surprising to see the representation of a cherub on Mars.

This isn't the sort of 'science' we discuss in the Sciences and Environment forum of this board.

I'm moving this to Religion and Theology for now.. [/b]
oh sorry. i didn't know that this Cydonia "thing" supposed to be in Religion and Theology

[Sentinel]

No worries, it's just that the website the link led to wasn't exactly serious in nature.
If you want to discuss the possibility of life on other planets in a scientific manner, feel free to do so in S&E, but astrology, angels and demons etc don't fit into that sort of discussion.

[Comrade J]

Originally posted by knight of cydonia+January 11, 2007 08:02 pm--> (knight of cydonia @ January 11, 2007 08:02 pm)
[email protected] 12, 2007 02:59 am
There are similar natural cliffs on Earth, and the cliff actually looks less like a face with a more sharp camera.
probably...

but why did NASA has never explain this thing? otherwise they remain silence. [/b]
Haha, are you seriously proposing that Mars has a face? :lol:
Also, what does that have to do with life on Mars? If there is indeed life on Mars, it isn't going to manifest itself as a huge fucking face in the rock.

As MrDoom mentions, as humans we automatically search for faces in things, which is why staring at clouds for a few seconds will nearly always reveal a face.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 12, 2007 10:10 pm
Haha, are you seriously proposing that Mars has a face? :lol:
Also, what does that have to do with life on Mars? If there is indeed life on Mars, it isn't going to manifest itself as a huge fucking face in the rock.


it's (the face) similarly / looks like this face:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3223/sphinx18ub8.jpg

and around it's, there's some kind of rocks that looks like a pyramid which is refer to the word: maybe there's some kind of civilization (probably egyptian or whatever)

[MrDoom]

it's (the face) similarly / looks like this face:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3223/sphinx18ub8.jpg
Really? Like, atom-for-atom? Or is your brain just interpreting a set of shadows and geological formations to look like a face? Ever see an inkblot test? It's the exact same principle. There is no face on the card, your brain only interprets the ink blots as a face. Pattern recognition is a very diverse, even neccessary element of the human psyche, but that's just ludicris.


and around it's, there's some kind of rocks that looks like a pyramid which is refer to the word: maybe there's some kind of civilization (probably egyptian or whatever)
So what if a bunch of rocks are pyramidal in shape? It's a fairly simple geometric pattern. And that's all it is, really. Pattern recognition. Amongst a bunch of amorphous rocks we see one roughly pyramidal in shape, and we say, "Ohh, lookie there!"

Even if the Martian elements eroded a mountain in such a way that it looked EXACTLY as a pyramid (as in, a perfect pyramid), it wouldn't neccessarily mean there was civilization there, much less "Egyptian", whatever that means.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2007 10:32 pm

it's (the face) similarly / looks like this face:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3223/sphinx18ub8.jpg
Really? Like, atom-for-atom? Or is your brain just interpreting a set of shadows and geological formations to look like a face? Ever see an inkblot test? It's the exact same principle. There is no face on the card, your brain only interprets the ink blots as a face. Pattern recognition is a very diverse, even neccessary element of the human psyche, but that's just ludicris.


and around it's, there's some kind of rocks that looks like a pyramid which is refer to the word: maybe there's some kind of civilization (probably egyptian or whatever)
So what if a bunch of rocks are pyramidal in shape? It's a fairly simple geometric pattern. And that's all it is, really. Pattern recognition. Amongst a bunch of amorphous rocks we see one roughly pyramidal in shape, and we say, "Ohh, lookie there!"

Even if the Martian elements eroded a mountain in such a way that it looked EXACTLY as a pyramid (as in, a perfect pyramid), it wouldn't neccessarily mean there was civilization there, much less "Egyptian", whatever that means.
:D wel i've never seen an inkblot test...what kind of test is that?

i said there was a rock that similarly looks like a pyramid according to what written on the link i gave :D

but thanks for the opinion anyway :lol:

[cormacobear]

The inkblot test is called a Rorschach test. and is a good example of the Mars face where we see things familair to us in random patterns.

The Rorschach inkblot test was developed by Hermann Rorschach, a Swiss psychiatrist and proponent of psychoanalysis, in the early twentieth century.
The Rorschach inkblot test is a method of psychological evaluation. Psychologists use this test to try to examine the personality characteristics and emotional functioning of their patients. The Rorschach is currently the second most commonly used test in forensic assessment, after the MMPI, and has been employed in diagnosing underlying thought disorder and differentiating psychotic from nonpsychotic thinking in cases where the patient is reluctant to openly admit to psychotic thinking.

[redcannon]

let's look at this from a mathematical standpoint. We know for a fact that mars has an atmosphere, and there is strong evidence to support it had a thicker atmosphere a long time ago, but didn't have enough gravity to keep it from floating away. Also, there is strong evidence that at one time mars had liquid water. Statistically, the possibility of life in those conditions, provided that this was a time with water and air, is very improbable, but not at all impossible.


Its probably not life, but who knows?

"not impossible, just very very improbable."
~Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy

[Eleutherios]

Why do you think Martians would create a human face on Mars and have that as their only obvious mark of civilization? Especially a face which, when viewed close up, does not resemble a face at all?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/45/MGS_Cydonia3.jpg

I mean, wouldn't they build a face of a Martian or something instead? We humans can be so conceited sometimes; we see ourselves in everything, from the constellations to grilled cheese sandwiches to Martian hill formations...

[Forward Union]

wait, you mean out of the billions of rocks they photographed, some, vaguely resemble things found here on earth?

That&#39;s fucking amasing. <_<

[Cryotank Screams]

Originally posted by knight of [email protected] 11, 2007 03:48 pm
Cydonia mars face (http://www.mt.net/~watcher/mars.html)

what&#39;s your opinion? is there really are a civilization on the other planet such as Mars?
To believe that there is life on a neighboring planet, in our own galaxy, that was complex enough to craft such a natural structure is anti-Darwinian, and an impossibility, and as for the shape, I agree with MrDoom, and I believe it happened naturally.

[Forward Union]

photo of maritan sunset&#33; (http://www.goldnuggetwebs.com/PGMC/mars_sunset1024x768.jpg) :wub: