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Karl Marx's Camel
8th January 2007, 16:25
Leading Academic:Neo-Nazis Have Signed Us Onto WW2

Destroying World Order: Analysing the war In Iraq and the middle east with Dr Franics A Boyle

Infowars.net | January 5, 2007
Steve Watson & Alex Jones

Boyle is a leading American professor, practitioner and advocate of international law. He was responsible for drafting the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention. He served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-1992), and represented Bosnia- Herzegovina at the World Court. Professor Boyle teaches international law at the University of Illinois, Champaign. He holds a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political Science, both from Harvard University.

Dr Boyle has intimate knowledge of the mentality of those now running the show as he went through the same PhD program at Harvard as Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski , and had the same International Relations teacher, Hans Morgenthau , whom many consider to be the father of International Relations as an independent discipline. Dr Boyle stated that when he was 21 years old Morgenthau offered to call up Kissinger and get Boyle a job on his White House Staff, which he declined. Dr Boyle also went to university at the same time as Wolfowitz, Ashcroft and other leading Neocons.

"You have to understand the neocon mentality, as I was saying, I went to the university of Chicago, the home of the neocons, I entered there in 1968 as an undergraduate. Their founder Leo Strauss had just retired from the political science department, but i was trained by his foremost student and protege, co-author and literary executor Joseph Cropsey . So I went right through the entire Neocon Program." Dr Boyle asserted.

"They are still going forward with their plans to re-carve up the middle east and re-make it in the neoconservative image. They encouraged the Israel "war", massacre, whatever you want to call it against Lebanon and Israel's war massacre against the Palestinians, both this Summer. And now they are planning for a war against Iran, a bombing campaign that very well could turn into world war three. And that would not bother them at all these Neoconservatives, indeed from their perspective how else are they going to retrieve this situation?"

Dr Boyle described the heritage that the neocon elite are carrying on. Basically put they follow the doctrine of Chicago University political stalwart Leo Strauss. Strauss's mentor in Germany, before he emigrated to the United States, was Carl Schmitt . Carl Schmitt went on to become the most notorious Nazi law professor of that era, justifying every hideous atrocity that the Nazis inflicted on anyone.

Do you think there is some truth in this, that the neo cons are pretty much neo-nazis and want to start WW3, or is it pretty much BS?

If the article is written by Alex Jones...

infowars (http://www.infowars.com/articles/ww3/leading_academic_neo_nazis_signed_onto_ww3.htm)

Ander
8th January 2007, 23:25
I think this is way over the top...why would the US want to be imperialist fucks and fight a massive global war when they can simply be imperialist fucks without any major conflict?

Luís Henrique
8th January 2007, 23:48
Originally posted by From the article in the OP
Basically put they follow the doctrine of Chicago University political stalwart Leo Strauss. Strauss's mentor in Germany, before he emigrated to the United States, was Carl Schmitt. Carl Schmitt went on to become the most notorious Nazi law professor of that era, justifying every hideous atrocity that the Nazis inflicted on anyone.

The reasoning is completely flawed. They follow Leo Strauss. Strauss was a pupil of Carl Schmitt. Carl Schmitt became a Nazi. Thence Strauss must have been a Nazi too, and Strauss' pupils must be Nazi as well.

But while Schmitt remained in Germany, Strauss emigrated to the US. Why?

(Perhaps because he wasn't comfortable with Nazism?)

This is the kind of thing that earns leftists a bad reputation...

Luís Henrique

Shredder
9th January 2007, 06:11
Leading Academic:Neo-Nazis Have Signed Us Onto WW3
Steve Watson & Alex Jones

So Alex Jones is a "Leading Academic" now?

Tatarin
9th January 2007, 12:35
I recently saw an interesting movie about the neocons, and also about the Islamic fundamentalists - it's called the Power of Nightmares. Search on Google Video.

Now, with what will the "third world war" be fought with? Russia and China have no interest in a conflict, unless it threatens them physically. Iran has weapons, sure, but they are no match if the US invades. This Iran-war will surely be bigger than the Iraq-war, and the situation would probably be the same.

But a world war 3? Now, in this age when we have nuclear weapons? It would be mass suicide.

Karl Marx's Camel
10th January 2007, 16:27
So Alex Jones is a "Leading Academic" now?

I think the "leading academic is Boyle, not Jones.

Guerrilla22
10th January 2007, 19:38
I don't know about World War 3, Alex Jones always blows everything out of proportion, but of course Boyle is right about the neo-con mentality. I've had a couple neo-con proffesors for politcal science classes and I definitely agree that they are inherently violent people, who believe in American dominance over the world by military force. Its true that if their influence is not checked (which appears to be happening, they've lost quite a bit of face over the Iraq debacle) that there will be many more violent conflicts iniated by the US in the future.

piet11111
11th January 2007, 18:57
Originally posted by [email protected] 08, 2007 11:25 pm
I think this is way over the top...why would the US want to be imperialist fucks and fight a massive global war when they can simply be imperialist fucks without any major conflict?
the united states can only be succesfull imperialists if they can back up their bully-ing with the threat of violence or even war.

their status as the undisputed global hegemony is torn appart by nations like iraq iran north korea and venezuela and cuba by their defiance of washington.
and america's inability to crush these country's defiance leads to other country's also becoming rebellious.

so if america wants to be "king of the world" they would have to restore their image of the only military superpower.
and that is why the neo-cons are so militaristic.

Guerrilla22
11th January 2007, 19:07
To be clear here, we're discussing neo-cons, not neo-nazis.
Its true, imperialism can only be spread and maintained by use of military force. Imperialism equals exploitation and no one will allow themselves to be exploited willingly.