Socialist-Youth-Revolution-Party

[SocialistYouthRevolution]

The Socialist Youth Revolution Party is a new party in the island of ireland for the the 15-30 year olds who want to change this country and not live in the past.

Anyone can join regardless of race, relgion, sex and other. The party aim is to create a federation of free anti-imperialism Democratic Socialist Republics Firstly in Ireland then scotland, wales, england.

This is only the start of the party so if you want to be a part of it please join!!!!!

either messege me
or
find out more here http://SocialistRevolution.bebo.com

[Q]

You might want to see this thread (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=60680).
Why yet another initiative?

[Fawkes]

We seem to be getting a lot of new Irish people as of late. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[SocialistYouthRevolution]

Thanks Q-collective

Hopefully more Irish join then i can recruit them :D

[Fawkes]

What ideology does your party follow?

[SocialistYouthRevolution]

democratic socialism along the lines of Hugo Chavez of Venezuela.

[Fawkes]

So it's reformist?

[Zeruzo]

Why is it called 'revolution'-party then?

And again: why a whole new initiative?

[SocialistYouthRevolution]

we need a revolution to achieve a socialist society so i kind of contadicted myself. But After a revolution yes it will be reformist.

[Fawkes]

But After a revolution yes it will be reformist.
Enlighten me as to what this means.

[SocialistYouthRevolution]

okay right in N Ireland people vote clearly along Religious lines, we want to change that by having a revolution that brings the youth and the workers together and i say youth becasue they are the ones who have the chance to unite out of the things that tear us apart. we can do this by the boycotte of the elections a peaceful revolution by doing that it lets the goverment know that people are sick and tired of the old its time for the new. After that we will have more support and our own party will contest in elections and actually do something for the people to politically get real change and reform.

[Q]

Just a friendly warning here: you're in for a serious failure and depression.

[Fawkes]

I wouldn't call "not voting" a revolution. According to your description, your party is in no way revolutionary, it is entirely reformist. I'm just warning you now, you will not find much support for such a party on RevolutionaryLeft.com.

[SocialistYouthRevolution]

The Bolivarian Revolution was Socialist and Democratic but it was still a revolution.

id like have to ideas then on how i could inprove the party so that i can find support on RevLeft.

[Q]

Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2007 11:36 pm
The Bolivarian Revolution was Socialist and Democratic but it was still a revolution.

id like to ideas then on how i could inprove the party so that i can find support on RevLeft.
The "Bolivariab revolution" is, in the words of Chavez, an attempt to create a "Andes capitalism", how ... revolutionary :wacko:

[SocialistYouthRevolution]

That is your opinion and opinion's are like ass holes everyone's got one!!! :D

[Q]

Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2007 11:46 pm
That is your opinion and opinion's are like ass holes everyone's got one!!! :D
Uhm, that's not my opinion, that is the opinion of your beloved Chavez...

[SocialistYouthRevolution]

I wasnt aware that he said that but i do know he did say

“I have said it already, I am convinced that the way to build a new and better world is not capitalism. Capitalism leads us straight to hell.”

so.....

[Q]

Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2007 12:03 am
I wasnt aware that he said that but i do know he did say

“I have said it already, I am convinced that the way to build a new and better world is not capitalism. Capitalism leads us straight to hell.”

so.....
It is true that, under the pressure from the people who want an end to poverty and exploitation, Chavez is moving to the left with his rhetorics.
But you seem to confuse cause and effect. Chavez won't start or lead a socialist revolution, if anything like that happens, he'll probably try to sabotage it. He's a leftwing populist, not a socialist.

Edit:
Here are some articles from the CWI about Chavez:
Chavez re-elected for a third term (http://www.socialistworld.net/eng/2006/12/04venezuela.html)
Lots of others (http://www.socialistworld.net/category/venezuela.html)

[Fawkes]

id like have to ideas then on how i could inprove the party so that i can find support on RevLeft.

I, being an anarchist, don't really have much of an incentive to help you form a political party but I could give you some advice.

If you seek to gain support among RevLeft you should be as non-reformist as possible. Actually, to be totally honest, N. Ireland doesn't need another leftist political party so I guess my biggest suggestion would be to abandon this one and join another, already established one.

[The Grey Blur]

Hey man there already is a Socialist Youth in the North of Ireland, as well as the rest of the island. We seem to be getting an influx of new members - class consciousness is increasing!

http://Socialist-Youth.bebo.com

http://www.socialistparty.net/youth/

:)

Tell me what ya think

[Fawkes]

Yeah, that's what I was saying, we are getting a lot of new Irish people.

[Aurora]

Originally posted by Permanent [email protected] 06, 2007 12:24 am
Hey man there already is a Socialist Youth in the North of Ireland, as well as the rest of the island. We seem to be getting an influx of new members - class consciousness is increasing!

http://Socialist-Youth.bebo.com

http://www.socialistparty.net/youth/

:)

Tell me what ya think
Quoted for truth :)

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

broaden your party......make it a leftist party not just a socialist reformist party.