Bin Laden denies any involvement in September 11

[Karl Marx's Camel]

I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle. It is the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children and common people of other faiths, particularly the followers of Islam. All that is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel. There is also a warning for those Muslim countries, which witnessed all these as a silent spectator. What had earlier been done to the innocent people of Iraq, Chechnya and Bosnia? Only one conclusion could be derived from the indifference of the United States and the West to these acts of terror and the patronage of the tyrants by these powers that America is an anti-Islamic power and it is patronizing the anti-Islamic forces. Its friendship with the Muslim countries is just a show, rather deceit. By enticing or intimidating these countries, the United States is forcing them to play a role of its choice. Put a glance all around and you will see that the slaves of the United States are either rulers or enemies of Muslims.

The U.S. has no friends, nor does it want to keep any because the prerequisite of friendship is to come to the level of the friend or consider him at par with you. America does not want to see anyone equal to it. It expects slavery from others. Therefore, other countries are either its slaves or subordinates. However, our case is different. We have pledged slavery to God Almighty alone and after this pledge there is no possibility to become the slave of someone else. If we do that it will be disregardful to both our Sustainer and his fellow beings. Most of the world nations upholding their freedom are the religious ones, which are the enemies of the United States, or the U.S. itself considers them as its enemies.

The countries which do not agree to become the U.S. slaves are China, Iran, Libya, Cuba, Syria [Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iraq, Sudan, Indonesia, Malaysia] and Russia. Whoever committed the act of 11 September are not the friends of the American people. I have already said that we are against the American system, not against its people, whereas in these attacks, the common American people have been killed.

http://www.911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html

What to make out of this?

Before the bombing of Afghanistan Taliban said that if they have any evidence or documentation that Osama bin Laden was linked to the terrorist attacks, they would extradite him to a third, neutral country, where he would be put on trial. The U.S. refused to bring up any documentation whatsoever, and Bush simply said in response "we know he is guilty".

Two weeks into the bombings, Taliban said that they will give the U.S. bin Laden if they just stop bombing Afghanistan. The U.S. refused.

[Vargha Poralli]

The source sounds like Conspiracy theory site.

Any way WTC was eyed by Osama(or any one who is close with him). Thay ahve already tried once in 1993 IIRC and a very close aide of Osama at that time the blind sheik was arrested regarding this.So there is no doubht that al-qaeda has a hand behind it.

P.S any way is this the right section for this thread ?

[Janus]

The source sounds like Conspiracy theory site.
Bin Laden did initially deny involvement in the attacks.

But a few years later in 2004, bin Laden publicly acknowledged Al-Qaeda's involvement in the attack in a video.

[Severian]

nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people

This does not sound like any Osama bin Laden statement I ever heard. It directly contradicts his videotaped statements in which he's called for the death of U.S. civilians, and justified it because, he says, the U.S. is a democracy.

Probably this alleged newspaper interview is a fabrication, by the newspaper or someone else. The BBC monitoring service is claimed as a source but it doesn't appear on their site. Bin Laden has not been in the habit of meeting with journalists since 9/11.

In any case he later took responsibility for the attacks, as Janus said.

And even in his early statements on the attacks (http://www.themilitant.com/2001/6541/654156.html), he stated they were carried out by "islamic vanguards" "blessed by God". No comfort for conspiracy theorists there. Also, how would he know unless he was involved? It was a paper-thin legalistic denial.

[Morpheus]

Originally posted by [email protected] 08, 2007 07:49 am
But a few years later in 2004, bin Laden publicly acknowledged Al-Qaeda's involvement in the attack in a video.
No he didn't. The US claimed to have found a video incriminating Bin Laden. This was not a "confesion" it was allegedly a tape of a conversation between Bin Laden and some other men. Given the US's history of lying and fabricating evidence, the fact that it's not even clear if the man in the video is Bin Laden, the poor quality of the tape and the disputed nature of the government provided translation make the tape far from proof beyond reasonable doubt. Bin Laden's position has always been that he 100% supports 9-11 but didn't actually do it himself. I don't see why it's okay to question the governments justifications for the Iraq war, to point out that they lied and forged evidence to support their claims, yet when you do the same with the Afghan war you're suddenly labelled a crazy "conspiracy theorist."

[Severian]

Morpheus, you may be thinking of a tape which came out in 2001 or early 2002, which some people disputed. Mostly 'cause we were trying to deny the legality of the Afghan invasion, when you come down to it.

But in 2004 bin Laden released a tape to al-Jazeera:full text on the al-Jazeera site (http://english.aljazeera.net/news/archive/archive?ArchiveId=7403)


So I shall talk to you about the story behind those events and shall tell you truthfully about the moments in which the decision was taken, for you to consider.

I say to you, Allah knows that it had never occurred to us to strike the towers. But after it became unbearable and we witnessed the oppression and tyranny of the American/Israeli coalition against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it came to my mind.

The events that affected my soul in a direct way started in 1982 when America permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American Sixth Fleet helped them in that. This bombardment began and many were killed and injured and others were terrorised and displaced.

I couldn't forget those moving scenes, blood and severed limbs, women and children sprawled everywhere. Houses destroyed along with their occupants and high rises demolished over their residents, rockets raining down on our home without mercy.

The situation was like a crocodile meeting a helpless child, powerless except for his screams. Does the crocodile understand a conversation that doesn't include a weapon? And the whole world saw and heard but it didn't respond.

In those difficult moments many hard-to-describe ideas bubbled in my soul, but in the end they produced an intense feeling of rejection of tyranny, and gave birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors.

And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon, it entered my mind that we should punish the oppressor in kind and that we should destroy towers in America in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred from killing our women and children.
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And for the record, we had agreed with the Commander-General Muhammad Ataa, Allah have mercy on him, that all the operations should be carried out within 20 minutes, before Bush and his administration notice.

[EwokUtopia]

Osama was involved, but he did not plan it. He merely financed the expidition. Osama has far more financial resources than manpower resources. "Al-Qaeda" does not exist in a deadset way that the Americans (and Osama as well) would like to say. They give this impression that Al-Qaeda is this huge organization that is globally active and can strike wherever and whenever. Bush said "Al-Qaeda is to terra what the Mafia is to crima". This reveals that not only has politics in America been dumbed down for a dumbed down nation, but that they give the impression that Al-Qaeda is this omnipresent organization hell-bent on ruining the lives of westerners everywhere, when in fact, it is much more like 50 people in Osama's direct company. There is no Omnipresent Al Qaeda, and to believe in such a thing is ludacris.

[Janus]

The US claimed to have found a video incriminating Bin Laden. This was not a "confesion" it was allegedly a tape of a conversation between Bin Laden and some other men. Given the US's history of lying and fabricating evidence, the fact that it's not even clear if the man in the video is Bin Laden, the poor quality of the tape and the disputed nature of the government provided translation make the tape far from proof beyond reasonable doubt.

9/11 Planning video (http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2006/09/07/al-qaeda-tape.html)

Al-Jazeera's video in which Bin Laden publicly admitted his involvement in the attacks (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6363306/)

[Karl Marx's Camel]

CNN.com - Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks (http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/)

[Janus]

That article is from 2001, when bin Laden did deny his involvement.