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ReD_ReBeL
5th January 2007, 03:29
Im curious as to what the Cuban governments stance was on Saddam and the baathists when they were in power. Because i really dotn have a clue.
All i know is Saddams daughter usto get Saddam his Cigars from Havana and send them too him lol.
So any info u could give me would be cool.

Dominicana_1965
5th January 2007, 03:36
Well i don't know the position of Cuba towards Sadam's execution.
But Daniel Ortega feels the execution shouldn't have happened, because he felt it was cruel and wrong for the people of Iraq. He feels the international law has been violated.

manic expression
5th January 2007, 04:23
Well I do know that they condemned the execution, but I have no idea what their position was on Saddam's Iraqi government.

I would assume that they did not support Saddam, since the Bush administration would've probably told us about it 1,000 times before, during and after the war.

A story about their stance on the execution:

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N01293955.htm

Clarksist
5th January 2007, 04:57
Originally posted by manic [email protected] 04, 2007 10:23 pm
I would assume that they did not support Saddam, since the Bush administration would've probably told us about it 1,000 times before, during and after the war.
Seconded a million times over.

I don't think there was any clear-cut stance to speak of. Perhaps a standing position, but no clear cut and defined stance that was ever really pushed.

Ander
5th January 2007, 05:06
Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2007 12:36 am
But Daniel Ortega feels the execution shouldn't have happened, because he felt it was cruel and wrong for the people of Iraq. He feels the international law has been violated.
I'm still wondering what this has to do with the thread topic at all.

Nothing Human Is Alien
5th January 2007, 15:43
They didn't support Saddam's regime.. remember who put him in power: the U.S.

Saddam was an avid anti-communist, who oversaw the execution of several.

At the same time, they opposed the sanctions and wars waged against Iraq that came later.

That doesn't mean some communists didn't work with him. The USSR maintained friendly relations after a certain point (following bullshit policies that came about in its last decades) & at least one Trotskyist international sold names of non-Trotskyist Iraqi communists to his government.

Vargha Poralli
5th January 2007, 16:03
Originally posted by Compań[email protected] 05, 2007 09:13 pm
That doesn't mean some communists didn't work with him. The USSR maintained friendly relations after a certain point (following bullshit policies that came about in its last decades) & at least one Trotskyist international sold names of non-Trotskyist Iraqi communists to his government.
You should check facts before posting your opinions. Saddam ascension to power was mainly intended to end Iraqi-Soviet Co-operation.And Saddam didn't disappoint.He ended it and started to co-operate with capitalists(Primarily French).

Nothing Human Is Alien
5th January 2007, 17:18
Did you read my post at all? The U.S. played a major role in putting Saddam in power, as an anti-communist who would smash the relatively strong communist movement in Iraq and align the country with the imperialists.

I just said that (though in less words).

The other part is that communists were being executed in Iraq even before Saddam became president, and the USSR maintained relations (as they did in similar scenarios elsewhere). Even after Saddam took power, he got a majority of his weapons (which were used to kill communists and break strikes) from the USSR!

Vargha Poralli
5th January 2007, 18:47
Did you read my post at all? The U.S. played a major role in putting Saddam in power, as an anti-communist who would smash the relatively strong communist movement in Iraq and align the country with the imperialists.

I just said that (though in less words).

Sorry didn't notice it in the first place. But I think you are wrong about Iraqi-USSR cooperation after Saddam's rise. He dealt more with French and Italians more than USSR.It is his predecessor(I don't know what his name is) who co-operated with USSR.

Also can you tell openly which Trotskyist International snitched for Him ?

Nothing Human Is Alien
5th January 2007, 19:00
Sorry didn't notice it in the first place. But I think you are wrong about Iraqi-USSR cooperation after Saddam's rise. He dealt more with French and Italians more than USSR.It is his predecessor(I don't know what his name is) who co-operated with USSR.

His predecessor was Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr.

"Iraq also relies heavily on the Soviet Union for the build-up its stockpiles of conventional weapons and military hardware, with about 90% of arms imports initially coming from the Soviets. The Soviet Union will continue to supply Iraq with the bulk of its conventional weapons well into the 1980s, although the level of Iraq's reliance will progressively decrease. By 1979, 63% of Iraq's weapons imports are purchased from the Soviet Union. Between 1981 and 1985, the figure falls to 55%.

"The Soviet Union also provides Iraq with military training. Up to 1980, 1,200 Soviet and East European military advisers are stationed in Iraq. Between 1958 and 1980, nearly 5,000 Iraqis receive military training in the Soviet Union. " - Source (http://www.moreorless.au.com/killers/hussein.html) (not the best source, but proves the point). Saddam came to power in 1979 btw.


Also can you tell openly which Trotskyist International snitched for Him ?

The International Committee of the Fourth International.

Andy Bowden
5th January 2007, 20:19
Originally posted by Compań[email protected] 05, 2007 07:00 pm

Also can you tell openly which Trotskyist International snitched for Him ?

The International Committee of the Fourth International.
Was it a whole international?

I was only aware that the British Workers Revolutionary Party - a sizeable organisation on the British far left for some time - took photos of Communists protesting outside the Iraqi Embassy and gave them to the Baathists on the pretext that they were Stalinists.

The WRP was also accused of taking money from Iraq and Gaddaffi, they tried to sue a British TV channel for making the allegations but they lost. What remains of the WRP today is still very pro-Saddam, pro-Gaddaffi.