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Jurhael
23rd October 2001, 04:52
From: http://zompist.com/predic.htm

We have seen how the 19C pundits were wrong about this century. It wouldn't be fair to close without making some equally imprudent predictions about America in the next century.

The Republicans will find that they like governing; as a result their anti-government rhetoric will fade away, to be revived only on ceremonial occasions (in much the same way that you only hear "these United States" at political conventions).

Religion is here to stay; but the fundies, frustrated with their inability to impose theocracy, will lose interest for a generation. The next time they pop up, they'll be as likely to ally with the left as with the right (especially because abortion will, I suspect, be largely eliminated by improved methods of contraception).

Liberalism will disappear-- at least in its incarnations as described above; the new movements and causes that replace it may keep the name. The political fights of 2100 will center largely around ideas that are considered impossibly idealistic or perverse today.

Conservativism will remain, of course; though it will end up implicitly accepting everything that 20C liberalism stood for.

By the end of the century, racial tensions will have been largely defused; those that remain will be a matter more of class than race. There will still be resentment of whatever group most recently immigrated, however.

Acceptance of gays and lesbians will be mainstream in a generation, and will spread to the conservative churches by the end of the century.

Collectivism will come back in a big way... but not for another generation, and Americans won't be the ones to develop it.

New forms of democratic government will be devised (again, not here; probably in Europe) that prevent the tyranny of the majority.

The important units of society will be, increasingly, not geographical units but what we might call tribes: diffuse collections of like-minded individuals who want to live life in a certain way and have broad rights and powers to do so.

When the oil runs out, mid-century, we'll finally make some progress on sustainable development.

Corporations will be run quite differently, though if I knew exactly how I'd be a business consultant, not a writer. I suspect that by present standards they'll be much more efficient, much less autonomous, and more democratically run.

Half the economy will be bit production and consumption-- an amalgam of entertainment, news and business analysis, science, education, religion, and the increasingly abstract support industries that these require. Manufacturing will be like agriculture is today: a tiny though essential sector of the economy.

The scientific study of government will make present-day political fights seem like pure foolishness. Once we actually know how to grow an economy, 20C moralisms of all political flavors will sound like leeches and electroshock therapy do today.

English won't take over the world; localism will lead to a resurgence of local languages, whose inconvenience will be mitigated by technology.

Artificial intelligence will be a significant factor, past midcentury. I suspect that human-level intelligences won't turn out to be useful-- or politically viable. Rather, we'll see lots of low-level AI in appliances, software, mechanical translators, etc.; as well as massive systems that can contemplate the affairs of an entire corporation or government.

Still no flying cars. Dammit.

A few hundred thousand people will live in space... the largest space industry being tourism. But Alpha Centauri will have to wait for the next century, at least.
The list sounds a bit utopian; but some of these changes will be accompanied by massive upheaval, violence and destruction. How pleasant a society we'll have in 2100 largely depends on how creatively we meet some of the challenges discussed above.

If there's any overarching theme here, I think it's this: historically, as we move from a world based on resource exploitation and physical power to one based on bit manipulation and intellectual power, liberalism is unstoppable. But it proceeds in half-century fits and starts. We've seen the cycle several times now: the Revolution, Romanticism, Reconstruction, the Roaring Twenties, the Radical Sixties. We surge forward, right some wrongs, indulge in various excesses, and burn out. The conservatives then come in; but the reaction doesn't last forever. Underneath the surface, the gains of the last period of exuberance are consolidated, and the next one prepares itself.

Fires of History
6th February 2002, 01:29
Jurhael,

Excellent post. Yes, I studied history in college, and it is essential for any thinker to understand the ebb and flow of history.

Right. Left. And that's how you do the chicken dance.

I agree with you: Liberalism will be unstoppable if we change the focus of the world from money to the mind. Hopefully, information will be of major value in the future, and if so, education will soon be trump.

And as we probably all know, an educated public is conservatism's worst fear.

Power to the People,
Trance

vox
6th February 2002, 11:51
First off, I suggest you take a look at Hubbert's Peak[/i]: http://www.hubbertpeak.com/deffeyes/

When losing energy, it's not practical for the status quo to look for alternatives, but to increase price, making it available only for the wealthy, not for the prole. In this manner, some autonomy is removed.

I've got to say, Jurhael, I find you to be impractical and optimistic. I think that things will become much worse over the next 100 years. Water is already being privatized. Human beings are losing (those with ones left to lose) more of their "inalienable" human rights all the time, and the good guys are losing the fight.

I truly and firmly believe that things will become much, much worse. Prepare for a new Dark Ages, folks. The Theocrats are in power (Bush has been "born again," you know), people are more willing than ever to believe that the USA is a good country and a force for "freedom" in the world, and those who do not believe that are marginalized in the conservative media.

Things aren't unifying at all, they are disintegrating. Plus, you have the impending ecological disaster, wherein increased UV radiation, plus global warming, wreaks havoc with crop production and the ocean's ecology.

Yes, it's a Brave New World indeed.

vox


(Edited by vox at 11:37 am on Feb. 6, 2002)

El Che
6th February 2002, 12:44
Thats a rather casual prediction dont you think? If things dont improve dramaticly then what i predict is an explosion. If you take a look at the world now what do you see? u see capitalism going foward at full throttle, you see the worlds resourses being exausted and polution out of control all these things direct result of the capitalist system that moves ever foward. Things will either start changing right now in a dramatic way or continue to go in the direction of mandess till they reach a point where the injustice is so grave that the end result is massive chaos and war. As food and water start to disapear and the capitalist process leaves the planet a naked shell of its former self, the opressed and the hungry will revolt out of pure necessity. Not united in an effort for revolution but rather like a hungry mob outside food store. As the rich have the power of force on there side, and because some nations will reach the breaking point sonner then others I feel the even in the obviousness of disaster the opressive criminals will prevail.

TheDerminator
10th February 2002, 18:25
The furthest a hypothesis can go is a prediction, but obviously astrolology is not much of an advance on the Sumerian civilisation. Still some predictions are better than others as some scientific theories, have proved, but all this liberalism versus conservatism, stuff is a bit simplisitic, because the nature of the beast of our social system is grounded in its unpredictable opportunism. Opportunism, is central to bourgeois politics, including liberal politics. The bandwagon of the moment decides how the wind blows. So much is transitory, in relation to swings from left to right, and a major international incident such as September 11 can galvanise reaction, and it is deep reaction. Somethings you can predict though and you can predict them with absolute certainty and one is hypocrisy.

Supermodel
12th February 2002, 16:53
I share vox' concern that the 21st century will be every bit as turbulent and painful as the 20th. I really don't see how we as a species have demonstrated that thee were any lessons learned. Plus, the 3rd world may go through the turmoil faced by the developed world in the 20th century.

Usually I'm optimistic, but the century is off to a BAD START if you ask me.