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Andy Bowden
3rd January 2007, 19:35
Given this case is only 10 years old, I don't know if it should be in "history" but I'm unsure of where to put it.

Basically, the gist of it is that an American SWP (nothing to do with the IST SWP's) member Mark Curtis got arrested for raping a 15 year old girl in her home.

The SWP launched a 'Defend Mark Curtis' campaign alleging that Curtis was framed because of his union work, and that it was trumped up. Eventually the campaign was successful and he was paroled.

In 1997 however he was expelled from the SWP for soliciting a prostitute.

There are now other Left organisations who allege that Curtis was in fact guilty of rape and the SWP were trying to commit a fraud of sorts on the Labour movement.

***

Do comrades from the SWP or other American Socialist groups have any views, information in defence/condemnation of Curtis?

Severian
3rd January 2007, 23:53
Originally posted by Andy [email protected] 03, 2007 01:35 pm
In 1997 however he was expelled from the SWP for soliciting a prostitute.
Is this a fact? What is your source? And even if it is a fact, how is it relevant?

The slanderers rely on "guilty until proven innocent". Assert all kinds of things about Curtis, then sit back content that it's impossible to ever completely clean off the mud.

Nobody can prove Curtis innocent. I'm confident he was. The most anyone can certainly say however: he was not proven guilty. Fortunately, that's enough. Or anyone could be jailed for anything.

There was no physical evidence linking Curtis to the apparent crime. One of the arresting cops had previously been disciplined for lying in a police report, but the defense wasn't allowed to bring that fact into court. There were a lot of discrepancies in the alleged victim's testimony that raise the question of whether she was making a mistaken identification.

And the cops demonstrated the knew of Curtis' political activity and showed considerable bias against him, including seriously beating him after his arrest.

Since the defense campaign has been over for years, its literature isn't on the web or readily available. But in its time, the defense campaign operated with complete confidence that the facts were on our side. For example, we circulated the Workers League's literature slandering Curtis along with a response - just to make sure everyone had both sides of the argument before making the decision to endorse. Trial transcripts were also available from the defense commmittee, for anyone who wanted to get that deep into it.

I might point out that other defense campaigns also have to contend with counter-campaigns - like this one against Mumia Abu-Jamal. The only difference here is that a supposedly "Socialist" organization decided to support the prosecution.


There are now other Left organisations who allege that Curtis was in fact guilty of rape and the SWP were trying to commit a fraud of sorts on the Labour movement.

I'm sorry, this is false.

There was one supposedly "Left" organization, the Workers League, which claimed this. I guess its international equivalents, so if you like one international left organization. It's now renamed the Socialist Equality Party and it runs the "World Socialist Web Site."

Their main campaign for a whole period was to support the prosecution in this case. You gotta ask: even if you thought Curtis was guilty, why would that be your main campaign. The answer is that the Workers League has a long record of anti-labor activity, including a long vendetta against the Socialist Workers Party. They've not hesitated to use the capitalist courts against workers organizations.

This includes a long harassment lawsuit, the Gelfand case, which demanded the courts take over the Socialist Workers Party. Another example: during the Pittston strike they showed up on the picket lines outside an occupied coal plant threatening to sue the union if they weren't allowed to sell their paper on the picket line. This is at the same time the courts were levying huge fines against the miners' union for "illegal" strikes and picketing. Naturally this kind of scabby conduct has gotten the Workers League chased off a lot of picket lines by enraged strikers.

Here's an article by another group, the Freedom Socialist Party, about them. Others who have no special love for the SWP have also rejected these vile, pro-government slanders.

Socialist Equality Party raises its U.S. profile

With a history as left wreckers and a 19th-century program, a group to beware of

Until recently, the Michigan-based Socialist Equality Party (SEP) has been little known in the U.S. except through the World Socialist Web Site. This is the Internet home of the International Committee for the Fourth International (ICFI), to which the SEP adheres.

But since John Burton entered the California governor’s race as the party’s candidate in 2003 and netted 6,700 votes, the SEP has become more visible. It has subsequently launched a 2004 presidential campaign and several more state efforts, which the party is attempting to build with public meetings.

Politically minded web browsers may have found [url]www.wsws.org (http://danielfaulkner.com/), with its lengthy daily bulletins and in-depth analysis, a helpful site in researching international questions. They may also have noticed a lack of discussion of issues of particular concern to women, people of color, and queers. This is no coincidence.

Not only is the program of the SEP remarkably backward on race and sex issues, but their history of sabotage against other left groups should give any activist pause. While the SEP considers itself part of the Trotskyist tradition — in fact, the only real upholders of that tradition — its politics and practices would make Trotsky shudder.

A sordid past. During the 1970s and ’80s the Workers League, as the SEP was then known, focused exclusively on building a labor party in the U.S., and disdained the civil rights, feminist and lesbian/gay movements. Labor party work was the main preoccupation of the ICFI as a whole, at the time a larger organization headed in England by Gerry Healy.

During 1985-1986, the ICFI ruptured. David North, a leader of this tendency in the U.S. then and now, attributed the split to "longstanding political rot in the leadership." By the leadership, he meant Healy and his associates, who North felt were dragging the ICFI in a non-revolutionary direction. But, at the same time, North tried to dampen the uproar in the ICFI over Healy’s serial rapes of women comrades, dismissing sexism in the group as any kind of real problem.

In 1996, the Workers League changed its name to the Socialist Equality Party, reflecting its stated aspiration to become a "mass socialist party of the working class." SEPs also exist in Australia, Britain, Canada, Germany, and Sri Lanka.

Wreckers on the Left. The over-the-top sectarianism of SEP/Workers League is most clearly expressed in their repeated attempts to drag other left groups into the capitalist courts or otherwise harass them with outrageous accusations. They relentlessly touted the lie that Joseph Hansen, an assistant to Leon Trotsky during his final exile in Mexico, was an accomplice in Trotsky’s assassination. Hansen was a respected leader in the Socialist Workers Party (SWP), the first Trotskyist party in the U.S.

The Workers League also financed a decade-long court battle in which former SWP member Alan Gelfand asked a judge to "fire" one whole committee of national SWP leaders, claiming they were FBI or Kremlin agents. This nasty attempt by the League to use the courts to destroy a radical organization was dismissed as groundless in 1989. But the League/SEP’s numerous disruption campaigns have been costly, distracting and painful for groups on the Left. The SEP has never repudiated its past tactics against the SWP, and continues to insist that the SWP is essentially an FBI/CIA front group.

Propping up class divisions while shouting for unity. The SEP is also infected with ultra-leftism, a scourge that often accompanies sectarianism. SEP dismisses the rest of the Left as sellouts or counterrevolutionaries, refuses to work in the union movement, and explicitly rejects feminism, "race-based politics," and gay liberation.

SEP’s opting out of involvement in the labor movement is based on its analysis of the union bureaucracy as "counter-revolutionary through and through." The Freedom Socialist Party (FSP) certainly agrees that the top labor leaders in the U.S. operate more in the interests of big business than of workers. But the answer is not to just stand on the sidelines and throw verbal stones. Only by participating in the union movement will radicals be able to win over the ranks.

When it comes to people of color, women and queers, SEP pays lip service to their rights, but again abstains from the actual movements. This shows that it fails to understand a central reality of this era: because these oppressed groups can never attain even basic equality under capitalism, a system whose survival depends upon racism and sexism, their struggles have a fundamentally revolutionary character.

And never mind the fact that these groups make up the majority of the working class!

FSP members in Australia have seen the SEP’s antifeminism up close and personal. While campaigning for office in Melbourne, the only way that SEP related to women’s issues was through repeated appeals to women as housewives. And at least one bookstore of the Socialist Labour League, forerunner of the SEP, sold pornography "because the working class likes it"!

Consider also the SEP’s opposition to affirmative action. They claim that affirmative action is not a "democratic demand" but "one of the measures used to transform every social problem in America into a race question, and thereby foster division in the working class." They contend that "the advocates of affirmative action play into the hands of the racists."

Hello, earth to SEP! Fault lines in the class are caused by the divide-and-conquer techniques of racism and sexism of those at the top. Fights against these "isms" aren’t part of the problem, they’re part of the solution. Trying to make these urgent problems disappear under the rug of "workingclass unity" does nothing to bring anybody together. Instead, it weakens the working class by not challenging the backward prejudices that keep it divided.

"More revolutionary than thou." The Freedom Socialist Party also has strong disagreements with the SEP’s assessment of revolutionary movements internationally.

Cuba is a case in point. SEP says that Cuba’s government is petty-bourgeois nationalist and that the workers have not overthrown capitalism. This is dead wrong, and lets the SEP off the hook when it comes to defending the Cuban workers state as it faces mounting U.S. attacks.

The SEP’s program is sterile and its sectarianism extreme. But many people today, disgusted with neoliberal globalization and war and turned off by establishment politics, are looking for a radical alternative. Let’s hope that they look farther than the SEP.

In other words, let the browser beware.
source (http://www.socialism.com/fsarticles/vol25no3/party.html)

I had a bookmark
Since the rename from Workers League to SEP, the organization has largely stayed off picket lines and out of strikes, writing off the labor movement completely. That's been a relief.

Parallel to that, it's paid less attention to harassing the SWP. It's never retracted any of its slanders - and continued circulating them in a low-key way, apparently you've been among those who've heard them - but it hasn't promoted them in high gear.

You'll see relatively little on its website, and nothing new, explicitly stating the SWP is run by FBI agents.

Of course, this shows they never really believed it. If it was true, they'd have an obligation to warn everyone. If it isn't, they have an obligation to retract it and apologize - though would anyone ever trust them again, after they'd peddled such a rotten and ridiculous lie? Nobody who knew their history, no.

If some other organization has recently started repeating or endorsing the Workers League/SEP slanders, it's news to me. I guess it wouldn't be totally suprising, considering the amount of factional hostility to the SWP that's out there. In a way, what's surprising is the widespread condemnation of these slanders on the left.

Severian
4th January 2007, 00:03
Another group with no love for the SWP weighs in on the Workers League, its slanders, and the Curtis case (http://www.driftline.org/cgi-bin/archive/archive_msg.cgi?file=spoon-archives/marxism-international.archive/marxism-international_1997/marxism-international.9707&msgnum=15&start=1093&end=1432)

The section on Curtis is in bold (emphasis added.) Right before that is some stuff on the Gelfand harassment lawsuit and the bizarre slanders about FBI control of the SWP.

This Marxist Workers Group is ancestral to the present-day Detroit Working People's Association and the Communist League in Detroit. The article's probably written by Martin Schreader, who is currently chairperson of the DWPA. (He's had a number of pen names over the years.)



By WORKERS' VOICE (U.S.)

In an act of pure cowardice, a goon from the Socialist Equality Party
(SEP) viciously attacked a young Marxist militant following the "Action!
Motown" labor march in Detroit.

The attack was spurred on by a political argument which started between
the SEP, and supporters of the Marxist Workers Group (MWG), a recently
formed Trotskyist organization based in Lansing, Mich.

The attack came after a political argument between a supporter of the
MWG and SEP on the their unwillingness to join and defend strikers on
the picket line. (For more details, we reprint the MWG’s statement
following.)

The attack was witnessed by many unionists, leftists and workers who
were attending the rally at Hart Plaza, in downton Detroit. All who
witnessed the event were appalled by the display of gangsterism, and the
crass claim that they were "provoked."

The MWG was attending the labor march as part of a working-class Marxist
contingent, organized by Workers' Voice (WoVo).

Ostensibly revolutionary organizations such as the Trotskyist League,
Workers World Party and the Socialist Workers Party witnessed the
spectacle. The Spartacist League succeeded in taking photographs of the
injuries sustained by the MWG supporter, as well as photos of the SEP
lit table being guarded by the Detroit Police Department.

The attack on the MWG was recognized by all as a signal that the SEP, in
spite of all its writings and speeches to the contrary, continues the
tradition of gangsterism and contempt for the working class started by
Gerry Healy and his "International Committee of the Fourth
International" (ICFI).

A history of gangsterism

Coupled with their delusions about the world they really live in, the
SEP has historically had a well-known record of gangsterist attacks on
the other forces in the Trotskyist movement.

Since the inception of Healy's ICFI in 1966, a trail of bruised, beaten
and broken bodies has followed -- with the comrade from the MWG being
the latest victim.

Following the debacle that was the 1966 Conference of the ICFI, the
conference that formalized the split between Healy and the Spartacists,
the Socialist Labour League, the British ICFI group at the time, staged
a cowardly attack on a supporter of the United Secretariat of the Fourth
International (USec).

Why? The comrade was selling a pamphlet which contained documents about
the ICFI Conference, including Healy's bureaucratic and cynical attacks
on Spartacist. This was enough to fire up the Healyites so much, that
they jumped the USec supporter, and beat him senseless.

As if this wasn't enough, when the USec member publicly denounced the
gangsterism of the ICFI, the SLL dragged him through the bourgeois
courts, suing him for "libel."

As the years went on, the ICFI gained a reputation for being "political
bandits," as Lenin used the term. Members of organizations that
attempted to sell literature outside of ICFI meetings or intervene
inside its public meetings were sometimes attacked and/or beaten (e.g.,
the aforementioned Usec supporter, Ernest Tate). And, if they raised so
much as one iota of criticism, they were sometimes sued.

Sometimes, the ICFI would sue them without resorting to a fight. In
1981, *Socialist Organiser*, a British state-capitalist group (no
relation to the current U.S. organization of the same name), printed a
scathing article on the ICFI's loving support for Middle Eastern
nationalists like Qaddafi and Saddam Hussein.

The Healyites, then known as the Workers Revolutionary Party (WRP) sued
*Socialist Organiser* for "libel."

Not to be outdone by their British overseers, the Workers League engaged
in the greatest legal debauchery brought about by a "left" organization
ever. In the mid-1970s, the ICFI, through the mouthpiece of North’s WL,
began what was dubbed "Security and the Fourth International," which
attempted to label the leadership of the Socialist Workers Party in the
U.S. as agents of the FBI, the GPU, or both.

Essentially, this was done to scare the membership of the ICFI into
submission. "Security" allowed the ICFI leadership to say: "Watch out!
You don’t know who you’re enemies are. Only we do." When members would
raise political criticisms of the ICFI, they were asked "Who are you
working for?"

While it's true that the U.S. government, as well as the Stalinists, had
infiltrated the Trotskyist movement at different times in the past, the
characterization of SWP leaders Joseph Hansen, George Novack and Farrell
Dobbs as "agents" is pure paranoia -- calculated paranoia.

These attacks against the then-centrist SWP culminated in the infamous
Gelfand Case, when the WL attempted to sue the SWP into releasing its
membership lists and financial records.

However, yesterday’s attacks cannot compare to the craven attacks the
WL/SEP have launched against the SWP recently. The case of Mark Curtis,
an SWP supporter in Iowa, is the best example.

Curtis was framed up by the state for allegedly "raping" a young, Black
woman, Demetria Morris. According to the police report (and the
WL/SEP), Curtis was "caught on the porch with his pants around his
ankles."

Upon hearing about the frame-up, and figuring that the bourgeois state
would not harass one of "its own" without "good cause," the WL/SEP
jumped on the cops' bandwagon and beat the drum for the Iowa police.
The *Bulletin*, the WL's rag at the time, wrote an article on the case
which, coincidentally, was given almost verbatim by the District
Attorney in her closing argument.

In spite of the fact that the prosecution's case against Curtis has
fallen apart over the years -- Demetria Morris recanted her "statement,"
saying that she was coerced into saying she was raped by Curtis -- the
WL/SEP (and, of course, their intellectual stepchildren on the Internet)
continues to hold to the state's lies.

Gangsterism from within was introduced by the Stalinists during the
"Third Period." It was most effectively used against the fledgling
Trotskyist movement. Physical attacks against communists who sold The
Militant, burglaries and slander were the order of the day from Stalin
and his minions in the various Communist parties.

Veteran U.S. Trotskyist James P. Cannon wrote about the political basis
for such attacks:

"Bureaucratism, expulsions, gangsterismm and burglary are not
isolated phenomena. They are bound together and they are the
expression and instruments of an adventurist leadership and
its opportunist political line. This leadership, lacking a
proletarian class basis and outlook, lacking any experience or
contact with mass movements, ... is an absolutely artificial,
unhealthy, and impossible leadership for a proletarian party.
It resorts to these methods alien to communism because its
regime is collapsing and it cannot maintain itself in any
other way. It resorts to bureaucratc administration and to
expulsion of communists because it fears control from below.
It incites and organizes gangsterism and robbery because it
has no principled ground. It cannot stand up in the
ideological and political fight." ("Burglary -- Its Political
Meaning," *Writings and Speeches: Left Opposition in the U.S.
1928-31*, Pathfinder Press, p. 80)

The Healyite/Northite method of "lie, slander, attack" has bought them
nothing but contempt from the working class. These "Marxist Moonies"
have given new dimension to gangsterism. The only thing we can say is:
at least the Stalinists waited until they had state power.

Defend the Marxist Workers Group!
For a workers' united front against gangsterism!

No doubt the SEP will come up with a mountain of dead dogs, under which
it will attempt to bury the truth of what happened at Hart Plaza
(unofficially, they already have). Revision of history is no problem
for these professional revisionists.

But, it is clear that the workers' movement as a whole must come
together in a united front against the gangsterism and political
banditry of North's SEP. While Workers' Voice believes that a "Workers'
Inquiry" into the gangsterism of the SEP would be wasted effort at this
time -- such an inquiry only expose the already obvious -- we would call
on all organizations in the workers' movement to come together in
defense of the MWG and all subjectively working-class organizations.

Given that the SEP and the MWG both exist in the same city, there
remains a possible danger of continued attacks and conflict.

The gangsterism of the SEP only serves to bring the weight of capitalism
down on the shoulders of the workers' movement. Workers' organizations
must be ready to defend themselves against provocation and physical
assault. Such tactics, as those employed by the SEP, are alien to the
workers' movement, and only serve to destroy the democratic rights of
the proletariat.

The methods of violence which the SEP copies from the labor bureaucrats
are necessary only to perpetuate their right-centrist policy. Their
methods condemn their policy and will defeat it, because Bolshevik
politics are stronger than the gangster’s fist.

To our knowledge, there are elements inside the various SEPs that took
their "Trotskyist" verbage as good coin. Some of these elements, upon
learning that the ICFI is up to its old tricks, may feel it is necessary
to struggle to defeat the gangsters in leadership.

Workers' Voice would welcome such a struggle, but we must say that it is
unlikely these few honest comrades would be successful. A struggle
against the bureaucratism, gangsterism and opportunism of the ICFI would
lead to a split, not "reform."

For our part, we will take up the challenge of gangsterism incited and
organized by the fakers of the SEP, who are unlikely to taste the cops'
batons in the black and working-class communities, on the picket line or
in a raid. (Are you sure that the WL/SEP were never attacked by the cops
when they did work in the black communities or in general?)

We will be resolute in defending ourselves and any other workers'
organization against such attacks. The rights of the working class are
higher than the rights of the sniveling bureaucrats and gangsters of the
SEP. We will maintain these rights by struggle. In this struggle our
strength will be multiplied by steadfast belief in our views and by our
courage to defend them.

Letters of support and solidarity with the MWG can be sent to:
Praxis, P.O. Box 1544, Lansing MI 48826, USA
or by e-mail to: burgisbe-AT-student.lansing.cc.mi.us

PRC-UTE
4th January 2007, 05:42
I noticed recently on the SWSW / SEP site that they had some bit trashing the SWP and I was meaning to ask you what was up with that, Sev. I guess that explains it... :wacko:

Andy Bowden
5th January 2007, 12:24
Is this a fact? What is your source? And even if it is a fact, how is it relevant?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Curtis_(SWP_member)

"Curtis' membership in the SWP was later terminated after he was arrested for soliciting a prostitute in 1997 and no further mention of him has been made by that organization since that time."

I know wiki can be edited by anyone, but I've never heard any claims by anyone that Curtis was not expelled by the SWP or convicted for soliciting a prostitute - or that it was another frame up. Is this information accurate?

As for why it's relevant, I think that men who use prostitutes, given the conditions they work in are complicit in abuse.


Their main campaign for a whole period was to support the prosecution in this case. You gotta ask: even if you thought Curtis was guilty, why would that be your main campaign. The answer is that the Workers League has a long record of anti-labor activity, including a long vendetta against the Socialist Workers Party. They've not hesitated to use the capitalist courts against workers organizations.

This includes a long harassment lawsuit, the Gelfand case, which demanded the courts take over the Socialist Workers Party. Another example: during the Pittston strike they showed up on the picket lines outside an occupied coal plant threatening to sue the union if they weren't allowed to sell their paper on the picket line. This is at the same time the courts were levying huge fines against the miners' union for "illegal" strikes and picketing. Naturally this kind of scabby conduct has gotten the Workers League chased off a lot of picket lines by enraged strikers.

Hmm, ok I take your point, the Workers League do look at best really sectarian or at worse state.


In spite of the fact that the prosecution's case against Curtis has
fallen apart over the years -- Demetria Morris recanted her "statement,"
saying that she was coerced into saying she was raped by Curtis -- the
WL/SEP (and, of course, their intellectual stepchildren on the Internet)
continues to hold to the state's lies.

She recanted her accusation of Curtis? That changes things considerably. Do you have any further details of this?

The one thing that set off alarm bells for me was why a 15 year old girl would make up lies about something like this.

Severian
5th January 2007, 21:24
Originally posted by Andy [email protected] 05, 2007 06:24 am
I know wiki can be edited by anyone,
And up 'til I just edited it, every statement in that "article" was obviously written by someone arguing the case for Curtis' guilt.

The prostitution arrest rumor was apparently based on....a usenet post linked at the bottom of the article. Anonymous internet posts are not the best possible source of information. And what that post claimed is not exactly the same as what you're saying.


but I've never heard any claims by anyone that Curtis was not expelled by the SWP or convicted for soliciting a prostitute

Guilty until proven innocent again. I've never heard any claims by anyone that the moon is not made of feta cheese. I've never heard any claims by anyone that you are not a Venusian Satanist cannibal. And I looked. (http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&hl=en&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=andy+bowden+is+not+a+venusian+satanist+cann ibal&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images) No, the accuser has to provide evidence for the accusation.


Is this information accurate?

I have no idea. The point is, it's a lot easier to make an accusation than to clear someone of it. So you shouldn't spread unsupported accusations.


As for why it's relevant, I think that men who use prostitutes, given the conditions they work in are complicit in abuse.

Sure, it's ethically rotten. Still, soliciting a prostitute does not make anyone guilty of rape. There are a lot more johns than rapists in the world.

Also, most socialist organizations do not have policies of expelling members for soliciting prostitutes.

Look, if you're really fascinated by this rumor, and if you're inclined to take internet posts as a source, then you might look at Fred Feldman's posts here (http://archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/marxism/2004w51/msg00248.htm). here (http://archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/marxism/2004w52/msg00012.htm), and here. (http://archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/marxism/2004w52/msg00032.htm) Fred Feldman is at least the real name of someone who belonged to the New York branch of the SWP until he left it over various political and organizational disagreements a couple years back. And that list is pretty much the Mecca of unproven and unprovable rumors about the SWP.


She recanted her accusation of Curtis? That changes things considerably. Do you have any further details of this?

No, I have no idea if this assertion by the Marxist Workers Group is true. Of course, as you would put it, "I've never heard any claims by anyone that" it isn't. See how that works?

The defense campaign's been over for years, so there's really nobody in the business of putting out reliable updates about it. The Militant has other fish to fry.

I posted that article as an overview of Workers League/Socialist Equality Party history by someone who has no love for the SWP....