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RGacky3
3rd January 2007, 00:20
Should a Socialist movement be organised by country perhaps by Political Parties? Or perhaps a direct attack against Capitalists (rather than their governments) would be better organizing by industry, such as with unions or against firms. Since the major powers in the world are multi-national globalized corporations and conglomorates would organizing nationally really be useful? Rather than opposing governments? Your thoughts?

Dimentio
3rd January 2007, 00:41
Most nation-states are too small to motivate a national organisation as a tool for changing the world today.

MrDoom
3rd January 2007, 01:14
National proletarians must first take care of their own national bourgeois. However, once they do this they must look to the international front. The exact conditions (the role of a party [if any], etc.) will vary per nation, by the conditions in said nation.

BobKKKindle$
3rd January 2007, 03:42
Capitalists are increasingly grouping together into vast multinational organisations, such as the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Trade Organisation (WTO) in order to expand their power, most notably through reducing protection from imports and reducing government social expenditure, in order to reflect the now almost-total interconnection of the global economy, and to expand the market avaliable for Capitalist conglomerate corporations. So we are facing an international capitalist movement. Therefore, it should be clear that we face no choice but to globalise our resistance. When groups from a wide ideological sprectrum can group together and organise to confront the meetings and the conventions of Capitalist organisations, a far greater imapct (both in terms of direct action and symbolism) is achieved than if the protest had been limited to leftist groups situated within the country where the event was taking place.

http://www.resist.org.uk/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genoa_G8_protest

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_duri...thenburg_summit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_during_the_2001_EU_Gothenburg_summit)

Vargha Poralli
3rd January 2007, 16:30
One nation is definitely unlike other( Big nations are even tougher to get organised). Even though the goal may be unitray every worker movements should adopt the best tactic applicable to their local(material) conditions.

RGacky3
3rd January 2007, 16:54
Many Socialist Organizations try and get political power, and they go against the political organizations, which to my seams kind of a waste. Since true power lies in Capital, I think they should try get economic power and neccesarily political power will follow, I'm thinking more anarcho-syndicalist lines, and because Capital (not political power) is not international the movement should be international, just imagen if sweat shop workers in China that produced things were in solidarity with retail workers in the US that sold them, a lot could get done, Outsourcing would not become an effective tool of the bourgousie because where ever they go they will be resisted.