Looking for locals

[Comandante Dos Estrellas]

This forum is very informative and active... it is good to see how helpful everyone is here. I am new to this forum but not new to the cause... I am looking for leftist groups and or indidviduals in the California central valley area to plan local actions. You can reach me here or via email.


[email protected]


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[Dominicana_1965]

If you want Comrade, you can join us the Free People's Movement (FPM)

Check out the website.
http://www.freepeoplesmovement.org/

[Tekun]

Contact hastalavictoria, he's an FPM'er from the central coast in Cali
He's always looking to organize and create an FPM branch

Im in SoCal if that's of any help

[Forward Union]

You are the second user to pop up form california recently. What I strongly recommend you do, is check out this thread

http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=60305

and perhaps even contact the user hastalavictoria (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showuser=12650) he lives in California and is considering setting up a local organisation. as Tekun pointed out.

If you need any more specific infomation please don't hesitate to ask.

[Rawthentic]

Yeah, thanks LU, I am looking to form a local action group.

Tekun, sorry comrade, but I no longer am an FPM member because I was thrown out by Companhero de Libertad due to that thread I made on the CL and FPM split. The things is comrade, that I was told that I was a member, given all of the material, and then CdeL tells me that I was never formally approved, which seems fishy.

[Tekun]

Tekun, sorry comrade, but I no longer am an FPM member because I was thrown out by Companhero de Libertad due to that thread I made on the CL and FPM split. The things is comrade, that I was told that I was a member, given all of the material, and then CdeL tells me that I was never formally approved, which seems fishy, but I think he's just hurting because the FPM got bombed on pretty hard.


Sorry to hear that

[mac1905]

Tekun, sorry comrade, but I no longer am an FPM member because I was thrown out by Companhero de Libertad due to that thread I made on the CL and FPM split.
That's a real crap throwing people out because they think different from the party bosses, and throwing after net chating that seem to me pretty sectarian.

BTW If ya are angry because you have put a lot of heart in ya activity and ya just thrown away for as silly excuse as internet comment- don't worry it's not worth. After sometime It'll be just useful experience. If it does not kill ya it increase ya strength.

[Rawthentic]

Yeah, thats what I was thinking as well. I don't have to deal with that. The CL as I see it is a responsible, Marxist and non-sectarian organization. But thanks anyway

[Comandante Dos Estrellas]

Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2007 06:09 pm
Yeah, thats what I was thinking as well. I don't have to deal with that. The CL as I see it is a responsible, Marxist and non-sectarian organization. But thanks anyway
Well sorry about the recent trouble... what sort of group did you want to start? I am in the central valley so maybe I could work with you in spreading out in this dirrection.

[Rawthentic]

Well, comrade, I live in Salinas, near Monterey. Im already a Communist League member and Im looking for more comrades to form a Circle. Check out the site: HERE (http://www.communistleague.org)

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Ah Christ, this guy is crazy. He was never "thrown out", because he was never a member. At most he was a supporter. I'm not sure what "all of the material" is either, but alot of people (including supporters and sympathizers) are sent copies of the manifesto and other literature to distribute, as well as things like pins, etc. He certainly doesn't have a membership card. I know he wanted to be a member, and applied, but no action was ever taken on his membership.. mostly because of the way he changes his mind so often.

And regardless, I certainly don't have the ability to "throw out" anyone. There is an elected committee that deals with that sort of thing, and very few people have been thrown out. We have a probation period before one can become a full member, to make sure we don't let people like this guy (who changes his mind on things more times than Bush prays) in.

It's funny because only 2 or 3 days ago an FPM comrade contacted me about this kid, saying he wanted to join RY now. Oh well.. and if you think the FPM "got bombed on pretty hard," I guess you didn't read any of the thread past the CL's dishonest statement. Good luck though..


Im in SoCal if that's of any help

Yeah, we actually have quite a few members in Cali now (I just checked the most recent lists), but they're all scattered from the North to the South. Some people are working on putting branches together in SoCal & near San Fran right now.. though I guess that's no help for you in the Central Valley.

[cenv]

I'm also a member of the circle hastalavictoria's talking about. I'm located in San Francisco, though, and I don't have access to a car, so I doubt I could organize with you in person. Having said that, you should definitely give the League a look. I think we may have a member located in the California central valley at the moment although I'm quite possibly wrong.

Oh, and let's try to keep the FPM drama out of this thread.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Oh, and let's try to keep the FPM drama out of this thread.

I agree... though that's certainly not aimed at me, since none of this "drama" has been started by sympathizers, supporters or members of the FPM. ;)

[Forward Union]

Well, yea, obviously the issue was raised and CDL was clarifying his position, but this is more of a political discussion than a practical one. Presumably if he's not a card-carrying member of the FPM he is still welcome to attend branch meetings and help out, until he's deemed to be committed enough.

Incase neither the FPM or the CL seem political attractive, there is also the Southern Californian Anarchist Federation (http://www.mediadissent.com/scaf/) or the possibility of setting up your own organisation.

[Rawthentic]

Haha...they call it "changing my mind" when I say that Cuba is not socialist and also by starting that thread on their split. I had no bad intention, I just wanted it discussed. Typical immaturity and crap, the main reason I decided to not insist on an FPM membership.

Anyway, enough of that. Comrade Cenv and I are looking to form a broader Circle, so if anyone's interested they can PM us.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Do you want me to retrieve the numerous emails you sent saying you did, then didn't want to be a member? How about the PMs you sent me in which you said you would, then wouldn't, then would, then wouldn't like to be a member (you also did the same thing with the CL)? Would you like me to ask the person whom you just recently told you wanted to join the RY to come post here about that?

Stop being dishonest.

[Rawthentic]

Thats because of what I thought that the FPM was, and later found that it wasn't. It was for a while that we talked on my membership, but that all changed when I learned what the FPM was up to and what it really was. It wasnt a "yes" and then "no" thing on and off, but a "yes" until I did realized what I was getting into.

You can bring anyone you want, you can retrieve anything you want, your "threats" don't scare me. And its sad that you try and turn that comrade I speak with against me, when him and I have already discussed this situation.

[AmerGuerilla]

Thats because of what I thought that the FPM was, and later found that it wasn't. It was for a while that we talked on my membership, but that all changed when I learned what the FPM was up to and what it really was. It wasnt a "yes" and then "no" thing on and off, but a "yes" until I did realized what I was getting into.

What it was it wasnt it was wasnt isnt a excuse. You have no idea what it is or what it wasnt by this forum which undoubtedly is were you get your views of them from. If you think the FPM is a forum based organization then your mind is truly clouded. How do you know what the FPM is up to do you recieve monthly reports of what all the International branches of the FPM are doing?

[Rawthentic]

What are you smoking?

I know that the FPM is not a forum-based organization. Thats not what I'm talking about. Enough

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

You can bring anyone you want, you can retrieve anything you want, your "threats" don't scare me. And its sad that you try and turn that comrade I speak with against me, when him and I have already discussed this situation.

Dude, relax. No one is threatening you with anything, you made claims which can be proven false. I simply offered to present such proof if you would continue to write nonsense against our organization in a public atmosphere. The same goes with "turning a comrade against you." He came two or three days ago asking if I knew you and saying you were interested in joining the RY. Like I said, stop being dishonest.

[Forward Union]

Whatever happened isn't important. The fact is that hastalavictoria does not want to be a member of the FPM anymore.

If the FPM and League members are scattered and disorganised around california, then it would make sense for them to form a non sectarian branch. But up to now it doesn't look like any members have shown the initiative (or perhaps don't have the means) to do so.

hastalavictoria is setting up his own organisation. As the FPM/CL/ members are currently inactive locally, it would make sense for them to support this new activists initiative.

Look&#39;s like we have a lot of sensible members popping up in california trying to get something set up over the long term, hopefully they can link up successfully without dragging up petty differences about who changed who&#39;s mind however many times. <_<

[Rawthentic]

CdL, you&#39;re right, I did talk to that comrade about forming part of the RY because I thought that our differences could be reconciled and that I would be a contribution to the RY. But after I explained to Tekun why I was no longer an FPM member, you jumped on me. I admit I said some things that weren&#39;t true, so thats that.

I have no trouble with the FPM aside from a few ideological differences, and I think that it is one of the most efficient and international organizations around. But its inconsequential if I&#39;m a League and/or FPM member because I have no comrades, and Im in the process of working on that.

And comrade, you know why I changed my mind on some issues. The thing with my parents and the alternative address was something that was tricky and took a lot of time to figure out.

And LU, I appreciate what your help comrade.

[Comandante Dos Estrellas]

thank you gentlemen... I think I found some help in there somewhere