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Jazzratt
20th December 2006, 18:44
...of our dead "friend" pinochet. When he died this board was fairly united in celebration, for here is - dead- the man that killed thousands with his brutal military regime, the only note of tradgedy was that he had died a free man.

So yeah, what do the caged scum...er oppsoing ideologues think of pinochet's death and his brutal dictatorship?

t_wolves_fan
20th December 2006, 18:48
Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2006 06:44 pm
...of our dead "friend" pinochet. When he died this board was fairly united in celebration, for here is - dead- the man that killed thousands with his brutal military regime, the only note of tradgedy was that he had died a free man.

So yeah, what do the caged scum...er oppsoing ideologues think of pinochet's death and his brutal dictatorship?
On his death, good riddance to bad rubbish.

On his reign, a black mark on our nation's history. We can only hope that he killed fewer people than a communist regime likely would have, and that the people of Chile are better off now than they would have otherwise been to justify the cost.

But essentially, hopefully it will be remembered as a lesson of what not to do.

colonelguppy
20th December 2006, 20:20
a dictator, although there hav ebeen worse, atleast he eventually relinquished control.

from a capitalist perespective, any succesful market reforms made were the result of foriegn advisors.

Jazzratt
20th December 2006, 20:26
Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2006 06:48 pm
On his reign, a black mark on our nation's history. We can only hope that he killed fewer people than a communist regime likely would have, and that the people of Chile are better off now than they would have otherwise been to justify the cost.
And just when I thought you were being a good person...


We can only hope that he killed fewer people than a communist regime likely would have Considering that you have no idea that a communist "regime" would have killed anyone I find this statement ridiculous in the extreme.

t_wolves_fan
20th December 2006, 20:50
Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2006 08:20 pm
a dictator, although there hav ebeen worse, atleast he eventually relinquished control.

from a capitalist perespective, any succesful market reforms made were the result of foriegn advisors.
I think Pinochet actually brought in the Economics department at the U. of Chicago and let them decide fiscal policy.

ShakeZula06
31st December 2006, 12:41
And just when I thought you were being a good person...
That's funny coming from you

BobKKKindle$
31st December 2006, 13:01
On his reign, a black mark on our nation's history. We can only hope that he killed fewer people than a communist regime likely would have, and that the people of Chile are better off now than they would have otherwise been to justify the cost.

I fail to understand why people often describe Pinochet as 'saving Chile from Marxism/Socialism' and excusing Pinochet on the basis that millions would have been killed under 'Communism'. The reason for this is that Salvador Allende, the leader from whom power was wrrested by Pinochet, was a democratically elected (by the electorate of Chile) Marxist who had a democratic, majority-backed mandate for his government. Chile did not have a Marxist leader installed by a foreign power (as in eastern europe following WW2) and did not under go a Leninist Coup d'etat that placed a pseudo-socialist leader in power. Given the democratic mandate, not only is it nonsense to speak of Augusto as a 'liberator', but it is also highly unlikely Allende would have been able (or willing come to that) to impose authoritarian rule on Chile given that, during his rule, he did not try to destory chile's democratic institutions.

Evidently the electorate of Chile made the &#39;wrong&#39; choice and the nation had to be &#39;rescued&#39; from their democratic decision by an imperialist-sponsored-free-market-fascist. <_<

Like our own OI-posters&#33;

JKP
31st December 2006, 16:28
This has been discussed before:
http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic...e%20copper&st=0 (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=55777&hl=chile%20copper&st=0)

cormacobear
14th January 2007, 17:08
As a firm supporter of free press and democracy it&#39;s is unlikely that Allende would have had anyone killed during his tenure since that would likely ensure his loss of the next election.

Unfortunately it was his support of free press that the CIA concentrated their destabilization efforts.

Instead of acting as an example of what not to do it served as a blue print for the US&#39;s fascist client regime in the region.

<---- 1000 posts promotion heheh :D

saint max
15th January 2007, 08:33
It&#39;s a shame he died of natural causes.

If only the sept 11th student rioting could have reached him first. Cest le vie.

anti-theist
23rd January 2007, 01:02
Evidently the electorate of Chile made the &#39;wrong&#39; choice and the nation had to be &#39;rescued&#39; from their democratic decision by an imperialist-sponsored-free-market-fascist.

Free market fascist? What? Free market = no economic government intervention. Fascism = total reliance on the state. How are those two not mutually exclusive?

Anyways, Pinochet was hardly for free markets. Although he brought it the U. of Chicago Milton Friedman-ites to do most of his economic policy, they were more corporatist than anything else; Not really capitalist or free-market. How can you have a free market while having a military dictatorship that imposes martial law and strictly limits what people can do, economically and socially?