Christmas

[Angry Young Man]

If there's anything that makes me anymore cynical, it's Christmas.
Here are 10 reasons I don't like christmas:

1. Its original message is just another excuse for christian fascism with all its "Keep with your family" bollocks;
2. It is hollow. It means nothing;
3. It is boring. Your stuck in a house for a whole day trying to perfect the "oh it's just what I always wanted" expression;
4. It is an excuse to get those damn cappies even richer by spending your hard-earned moolah;
5. It enforces gender-roles in advertising;
6. I lost my mum around this time in 1999. Cancer;
7. Tacky xmas lights;
8. Do-nothing do-gooders;
9. Shops start advertising at around Sept/Oct;
10. We are forced to lie to children. And an inconsistent lie at that.

[t_wolves_fan]

Deal with it.

[Intellectual47]

It enforces gender-roles in advertising;
That's a confusing one.

Its original message is just another excuse for christian fascism with all its "Keep with your family" bollocks;
The original message is one of love and gift-giving

It is an excuse to get those damn cappies even richer by spending your hard-earned moolah;
But you get stuff in the proccess. It's Win-Win

[Angry Young Man]

I also hate cheerful people.

[Demogorgon]

Christmas is a particularly good excuse for drinking. I like drinking therefore I will happilly put up with Christmas.

Let's not get too worked up with what it's actual meaning is or whatnot. A rather eccentric friend of mine is intending to burn a log on Christmas day as that's what was done in the Pagan festival of Yule. The meaning changes all the time. Just treat the day however you want.

[Rollo]

But you get stuff in the proccess. It's Win-Win

Your age is showing.

I are like christmas because i get presents froms my mummy!

Do you know how much money it costs to buy presents for everybody? I just tell them " christmas is about christ and such... Not santa. "

[An archist]

I usually get a bit down around the holiday seasons, especially christmas sucks, because all your mates are with family, meaning you're forced to do the same, it gets dark real soon and it brings my mood down.

[KC]

I like Christmas. Nog is delicious. Christmas parties rock. It's right before New Years so the party goes all week. You get to exchange gifts with your family and be with your family. Christmas cookies rock.

So what if it promotes commodity fetishism? Whining about it isn't going to do anything. You might as well enjoy it while it lasts.

[which doctor]

I hate it when people give me gifts that I don't want and can't use and I have to act like I was really happy when I received them.

[Pirate Utopian]

some family that lives across my street has a glowing santa claus garden gnome, it's fucking hideous

[KC]

I hate it when people give me gifts that I don't want and can't use and I have to act like I was really happy when I received them.


That's why you do the same to them the next year.

[cb9's_unity]

I see christmas as a time where a lot of people who usually couldn't give a shit about eachother actually show some compassion for others. Many of us know we are gonna get shitty gifts but we also hope the person that we give a gift to will actually like it. Yah yah christians did just pull it out of there ass to surpress pagans and capitalists did hype it up to make a killing in profits but people do show some more compassion towards eachother during christmas and thats allways a good things.

[colonelguppy]

you must not have any friends

[Angry Young Man]

What I object to is being bored. Winter is supposed to be a miserable time. The Greeks understood, and the fact that Finland and Hungary have two of the highest suicide rates in the world, and Scotland has the highest suicide rate in the UK.
Also, there are no trains on xmas, so you're stuck in the same enclosure, in my case, a small village.
And surely people should show compassion all year round. Come to think of it, what exactly does a Rotary Club DO?

[Zero]

I hate Christmas as well. Everyone expects me to want something, when I'm just as happy with what I have...

Consider donating money to Heffer, or to the Red Cross for Christmas for people.

[Noah]

The sale is good, it saves money! We aren't celebrating it, actually we never celebrate it, all our relative seem to die at around the end of the year...

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

I dont like it, its tacky and annoying and you have to spend time with boring relatives

[RebelDog]

One of the good things is some workers get some time off work. Other than that its a commercial festival/consumer orgy which mainly involves cheap tat. I'm going to get out of my head on sherry and curse the tv for being shite.

[ichneumon]

i know somebody who's getting coal and switches for christmas!!!!


quick, somebody get that boy some eggnog and frostie-the-snowman DVD!!

[Angry Young Man]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16, 2006 11:14 pm
i know somebody who's getting coal and switches for christmas!!!!


quick, somebody get that boy some eggnog and frostie-the-snowman DVD!!
I know I won't, because a certain prime minister, who shall remain un-named but she was crap, shut all of the mines down.
Why is getting coal a bad thing? It provides warmth and electricity. What do we get now we have entered the nuclear age? Plutonium?
Anyway, I don't know if anyones heard of this tradition, but on New Years at midnight, you knock on a stranger's door and offer them food, coal and money so they will never be hungry, cold or poor. New Years is what we should be celebrating because it represents hope. Any resolutions?

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Shut up and get drunk.

[bezdomni]

Everyone expects me to want something, when I'm just as happy with what I have...

Demand control of the means of production.

And if it floats your boat, state power for your class.

[Chris Hiv_E_]

I love Christmas, I just despise involuntarily watching "A Christmas Story" 98,653 times every year. <_< "You&#39;ll shoot your eye out kid&#33;"

[EwokUtopia]

The Yuletide is great. Just take the Christ out of Christmas and remember the true meaning of the holiday: Stuffing your face and drinking too much for two bloody weeks&#33; Its great. Thats what it basically was before the Christians hijacked it and threw the baby Jesus into it and made it this "silent night".....fuck that shit.

All you need to do to make the Yuletide good is cut back on the associations with Christianity, which are fake to begin with, and turn off the damn TV, nothing more annoying and frightening than Christmas commercials, especially kids toy commercials, I mean, with their jingles and happy kids and Buy this buy that, it is scary propaganda. You know what, just throw the TV out the window all months of the year.

[Jazzratt]

I&#39;m usually in too much of a win-feuled daze to notice these things. I also tend to be full of cheese.

[Angry Young Man]

One more reason to hate xmas: they stole a socialist anthem (the Red Flag) and turned it into a carol (oh xmas tree).
THE PLAGIARIST SWINE&#33;

[ack]

I enjoy Christmas. Time off to party and relax and goof around. If you don&#39;t like the materialism/capitalism it promotes, then make all your gifts. That&#39;s what I do.

[Guerrilla22]

Remember, Xmas was origanlly a pagan holiday that was hijacked by the christians, which is why there&#39;s a tree involved.

[Rockfan]

Fuck I don&#39;t mind it, i come from a resonable well off family so they just buy me stuff and i get a mean feed and because i lots alot of my extreame left veiws, I don&#39;t care as much anymore, still it&#39;s not as exciting as when i was 6&#33;&#33;

[freakazoid]

Remember, Xmas was origanlly a pagan holiday that was hijacked by the christians, which is why there&#39;s a tree involved.

Yeah, its really sad how capitalism has hijacked the true meaning of Christmas, :(

[comrade_james]

Originally posted by Chris [email protected] 17, 2006 06:44 pm
I love Christmas, I just despise involuntarily watching "A Christmas Story" 98,653 times every year. <_< "You&#39;ll shoot your eye out kid&#33;"
hahaha so true.

[comrade_james]

I personally have absolutely no problem with Christmas I enjoy how its the only time of year people are actually pleasant to each other and things don&#39;t seem a bleak as they usually are. I don&#39;t like the whole religious side of the holiday, but now its really gone beyond that Christmas is about the atmosphere, it really has lost the religious side. O yeah.. and get drunk.

[colonelguppy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18, 2006 11:20 am
One more reason to hate xmas: they stole a socialist anthem (the Red Flag) and turned it into a carol (oh xmas tree).
THE PLAGIARIST SWINE&#33;
i&#39;m pretty sure christmas colors were already established long before the reds took over in russia.

are you going to get pissed at anything that has red on it now?

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by colonelguppy+December 19, 2006 09:32 pm--> (colonelguppy @ December 19, 2006 09:32 pm)
[email protected] 18, 2006 11:20 am
One more reason to hate xmas: they stole a socialist anthem (the Red Flag) and turned it into a carol (oh xmas tree).
THE PLAGIARIST SWINE&#33;
i&#39;m pretty sure christmas colors were already established long before the reds took over in russia.

are you going to get pissed at anything that has red on it now? [/b]
He was talking about the song, fuckwit.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

No way, never disclose your home address to the enemy. They will only betray your trust and send you sub-par presents.

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18, 2006 11:21 pm

Remember, Xmas was origanlly a pagan holiday that was hijacked by the christians, which is why there&#39;s a tree involved.

Yeah, its really sad how capitalism has hijacked the true meaning of Christmas, :(
Exactly and thats the reason why I dont like Christmas myself. The commericalism is whats the turn-off. Oh and wheres the gender roles played out in the advertising? I truly haven&#39;t noticed any.

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by C_Rasmussen+December 20, 2006 03:16 pm--> (C_Rasmussen @ December 20, 2006 03:16 pm)
[email protected] 18, 2006 11:21 pm

Remember, Xmas was origanlly a pagan holiday that was hijacked by the christians, which is why there&#39;s a tree involved.

Yeah, its really sad how capitalism has hijacked the true meaning of Christmas, :(
Exactly and thats the reason why I dont like Christmas myself. The commericalism is whats the turn-off. Oh and wheres the gender roles played out in the advertising? I truly haven&#39;t noticed any. [/b]
First: Fuck me, you&#39;re still posting here, that&#39;s dedication :D

Secondly: On the point of advertising; most christmas adverts I see portray the kind of &#39;nuclear family&#39; so beloved by capitalists and moralising twats everywhere. The implications of these adverts are pretty much : "the woman should do the mother things, the woman should get "women&#39;s" presents and so on.

[colonelguppy]

Originally posted by Jazzratt+December 19, 2006 05:23 pm--> (Jazzratt @ December 19, 2006 05:23 pm)
Originally posted by [email protected]ecember 19, 2006 09:32 pm

[email protected] 18, 2006 11:20 am
One more reason to hate xmas: they stole a socialist anthem (the Red Flag) and turned it into a carol (oh xmas tree).
THE PLAGIARIST SWINE&#33;
i&#39;m pretty sure christmas colors were already established long before the reds took over in russia.

are you going to get pissed at anything that has red on it now?
He was talking about the song, fuckwit. [/b]
oh no, i guess he actually has a legitimate reason to be pissed now&#33;&#33;&#33;

oh wait, this is still dumb as shit.

[colonelguppy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19, 2006 12:21 am

Remember, Xmas was origanlly a pagan holiday that was hijacked by the christians, which is why there&#39;s a tree involved.

Yeah, its really sad how capitalism has hijacked the true meaning of Christmas, :(
i hope for humanity&#39;s sake that this was a joke.

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by colonelguppy+December 20, 2006 08:26 pm--> (colonelguppy @ December 20, 2006 08:26 pm)
Originally posted by [email protected] 19, 2006 05:23 pm

Originally posted by [email protected] 19, 2006 09:32 pm

[email protected] 18, 2006 11:20 am
One more reason to hate xmas: they stole a socialist anthem (the Red Flag) and turned it into a carol (oh xmas tree).
THE PLAGIARIST SWINE&#33;
i&#39;m pretty sure christmas colors were already established long before the reds took over in russia.

are you going to get pissed at anything that has red on it now?
He was talking about the song, fuckwit.
oh no, i guess he actually has a legitimate reason to be pissed now&#33;&#33;&#33;

oh wait, this is still dumb as shit. [/b]
The Red Flag is a highly inspiring and beautiful song. Oh Christmas Tree on the other hand is a holllow waste of notes sung by brainless dolts every year.

It&#39;s akin to somone taking a poem by one of the greats and turning it into an ad jingle.

[t_wolves_fan]

Secondly: On the point of advertising; most christmas adverts I see portray the kind of &#39;nuclear family&#39; so beloved by capitalists and moralising twats everywhere.

That&#39;s because we have most of the money.


The implications of these adverts are pretty much : "the woman should do the mother things, the woman should get "women&#39;s" presents and so on.

I&#39;ll take your advice and get my wife a drillbit set this Christmas. I&#39;ll let you know how it turns out.

:D

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2006 08:55 pm

Secondly: On the point of advertising; most christmas adverts I see portray the kind of &#39;nuclear family&#39; so beloved by capitalists and moralising twats everywhere.

That&#39;s because we have most of the money.
Yes, that is the heart of the problem.




The implications of these adverts are pretty much : "the woman should do the mother things, the woman should get "women&#39;s" presents and so on.

I&#39;ll take your advice and get my wife a drillbit set this Christmas. I&#39;ll let you know how it turns out.

:D Most people would be dissapointed to get a drillbit for christmas, they&#39;re dead cheap at the DIY shop and aren&#39;t really of any sentimental value. Your "experiment", therfore, is flawed.

Still go ahead, I hope it causes an argument :)

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by patton+December 20, 2006 10:51 pm--> (patton @ December 20, 2006 10:51 pm)
[email protected] 20, 2006 08:29 pm
Oh Christmas Tree on the other hand is a holllow waste of notes sung by brainless dolts every year.

Hey i resemble that&#33;&#33;&#33; :D [/b]
You resemble a hollow waste of notes?&#33; That must go down well at parties.

[Red Tomato]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15, 2006 07:25 pm
If there&#39;s anything that makes me anymore cynical, it&#39;s Christmas.
Here are 10 reasons I don&#39;t like christmas:

1. Its original message is just another excuse for christian fascism with all its "Keep with your family" bollocks;
2. It is hollow. It means nothing;
3. It is boring. Your stuck in a house for a whole day trying to perfect the "oh it&#39;s just what I always wanted" expression;
4. It is an excuse to get those damn cappies even richer by spending your hard-earned moolah;
5. It enforces gender-roles in advertising;
6. I lost my mum around this time in 1999. Cancer;
7. Tacky xmas lights;
8. Do-nothing do-gooders;
9. Shops start advertising at around Sept/Oct;
10. We are forced to lie to children. And an inconsistent lie at that.
I have to agree. :thud: christmas is AWFUL when I think of it like that&#33;