drugs in the workplace

[Red October]

im all for legalizing pot, but do you think doing drugs should be allowed in the workplace? i dont think it would be a very good idea to have factory workers, firemen, plumbers, and pretty much any sort of worker high on the job. discuss.

[Lamanov]

Don't you think workers may ban use of drugs in the workplace? They are the ones who will run the job, themselves.

For example, Gdansk general strike (1980) was followed by ban on consumption of alcohol by strike committees.

The only reason why some workers get high is because of the stress and boredom that jobs bring.

[BreadBros]

I've met quite a few individuals who work pretty physical jobs and get high all the time. An acquaintance of mine worked as a plumber for a few years and was high pretty often, as was much of his crew, it never really presented a problem. It really depends on the type of job you're doing and the drug. You probably shouldn't work while tripping or on alcohol or heroin or something, but I can see how stimulants and even weed might not be a problem.

[Ol' Dirty]

People should have the right to ingest anything that is not directly physicaly or mentaly harmful anytime they please, as long as they are in private. I think people shouldn't be able to toke in public, because there would be the problem with passive and second hand smoke. Pill popping should be done in the home, because it could have major affects on what people do.

[WUOrevolt]

as long as it is responsible used and doesnt interfere with your ability to function on a normal level, then you should be able to ingest anything that you please.

[Delirium]

Drug users generally know what is responsible to do on the job and what isn't. I've smoked weed at just about every job i've had and its caused no problems. Marijuana can make monotonous tasks bearable

[( R )evolution]

As long as it doenst pose a risk to the persons job than I think it would be fine. I smoke weed in school and I get A's on all my tests. Weed is a ok for me. I dont know about other drugs such as heroin, cocaine, and some other crazy ass shit cause they may pose a problem in the work place, I dont know how much those drugs fuck up your thought as I have never taken them. But weed is fine with me.

[Noah]

People can take drugs in the workplace given that it does not effect their ability to work & their skill. Also, given that the majority of their other work mates do not mind it. If it isn't stopping you from being a productive member of society then you're not hurting anyone else.

[Amusing Scrotum]

Originally posted by DJ-[email protected] 09, 2006 10:52 pm
The only reason why some workers get high is because of the stress and boredom that jobs bring.

That may well be one of the reasons, but it certainly isn't the "only" reason.

Bar workers, for instance, drink during their shifts because they work so late. That is, no one wants to have their first drink of the night at 2 o'clock in the morning ... just after they've finished. So, instead, you have a few drinks throughout the night.

Additionally, if you&#39;ve been out on a Friday, not slept and then gone into work on a Saturday, a few lines of something can be just what you need. That ... or a cup of coffee. But, personally, I don&#39;t like coffee. <_<

As for the original question, you&#39;re right; it should be the choice of the workers themselves whether they want to do this or that whilst working. Whether that choice is utilised through individual preference or a universal Code of Conduct, is somewhat situational.

But the fundamental decision should be in the hands of the workers ... and not the employers.

[Xiao Banfa]

No drugs in the fucking workplace, generally- with exceptions.

Obviously no ketamine in a car assembly plant.

[Mujer Libre]

I agree with everyone who&#39;s said that the decisions should be left up to workers. The way I see it you can definitely still do your job while on some drugs, while other might be too dangerous. And seeing as how workers would obviously care about their own safety in a work situation- it makes sense that some restrictions would apply, but not that all drugs would be banned..

[FriedFrog]

I wouldnt be too impressed if I called for a plumber and s/he turned up blitzed, or whatever.

I don&#39;t think its very responsible to take drugs or drink alcohol whilst providing some kind of service to people.

[Red October]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10, 2006 06:30 pm
I wouldnt be too impressed if I called for a plumber and s/he turned up blitzed, or whatever.

I don&#39;t think its very responsible to take drugs or drink alcohol whilst providing some kind of service to people.
yeah, if i call in for a painter or some other service i would like them to be sober. i dont want a guy brewing my coffe to be hyped up on meth.

[Amusing Scrotum]

Originally posted by Tino Rangatiratanga+December 10, 2006 09:49 pm--> (Tino Rangatiratanga &#064; December 10, 2006 09:49 pm)Obviously no ketamine in a car assembly plant.[/b]

What on earth makes you think that someone would be dull enough to try and assemble cars whilst on Ketamine?

In this thread, we&#39;ve had people talking about "blitzed" Plumbers, Car Plant workers on Ketamine ... and so on. And, to be honest, it&#39;s lost me a bit. That is, people are talking like they actually know people who say stuff like: "well, been as I&#39;ve done some Madman today, I quite fancy building a wall. So how about it Kev? Or has the Acid you&#39;ve taken not kicked in yet?"

In other words, what people are babbling on about here, is completely removed from reality. It&#39;s honestly like you spend you&#39;re whole lives locked in your room away from human contact.

So, why not have a bit of sense here? That is, no one is going to do 4 on the head whilst they are in work, or anything else ... and that&#39;s because they know it&#39;s completely pointless. Because doing that will mean they cease functioning and stop working.

What they may well do, by contrast, is have a little smoke or a sneaky line, based on the fact that they personally know that they&#39;ll be able to carry on functioning. In other words, people ain&#39;t that fucking daft to get really fucked in work ... you do that after work.

After all, people have a Pint of Lager at lunchtime; not Tequila slammers.


Muigwithania
Pill popping should be done in the home, because it could have major affects on what people do.

The drug that defines the modern day Club scene, should be done at home? :unsure:

This board gets weirder by the minute...

[Hit The North]

Drugs are completely necessary in the workplace, I find.

[WUOrevolt]

Originally posted by Citizen [email protected] 11, 2006 04:07 am
Drugs are completely necessary in the workplace, I find.
I wouldnt say they are necessary, but some people do them without a problem. I worked as a janitor for the summer (most horrible conditions ever, treated like slaves) and me and some of my co workers would smoke weed on the lunch break and be fine to work at a pace that was far speedier than normal. But certain care should always be taken so as not to hurt yourself or any or your fellow workers.

But remember, everyone reacts to drugs differently since every body is different. So it should be a decision made on an individual basis.

[Apatride]

Not everyone can hold their share; we all know someone who becomes a mindless zombie after a single toke. I guess it&#39;s a question of teamwork as well; when I used to work in bars I made it clear to some of the staff that if they couldn&#39;t hold their coke then to just don&#39;t do any. Yet other barmen were very productive and friendly when they were high, so you can&#39;t generalize per substance versus work environment.

I used to be chronic back then and everyone wondered how I could manage working double shift with a joint every two hour or so&#33; Good old days...
:blink: :wacko: :rolleyes:

[Red October]

good points. i geuss it does depend on personal tolerance for drgus, type of job, etc.

[MolotovLuv]

I just smoked one on my lunch break and i&#39;m doing fine :D I had to to get rid of the migraine my asshole boss gave me before he left to whack off the rest of the day.

[Pawn Power]

I basically built a whole house high. Workers should be able to decide these things, they know there bodies. However is others see that is could be physicaly dangerous for themselves then they have the right to step in. Again in depends on the job and the drug. I dont want some doctor trippin&#39; on acid giving me surgery and I dont want my bus driver drunk. But it should be fine in programers and masons are stoned.

[Chris Hiv_E_]

I personally have no problem functioning under the influence of pot...but then again I&#39;ve never had a job.

[Red October]

Originally posted by Pawn [email protected] 12, 2006 05:42 pm
I basically built a whole house high. Workers should be able to decide these things, they know there bodies. However is others see that is could be physicaly dangerous for themselves then they have the right to step in. Again in depends on the job and the drug. I dont want some doctor trippin&#39; on acid giving me surgery and I dont want my bus driver drunk. But it should be fine in programers and masons are stoned.
it would interesting if game designers or movie directors were high on the job

[Chris Hiv_E_]

Originally posted by Red October 1922+December 12, 2006 11:02 pm--> (Red October 1922 @ December 12, 2006 11:02 pm)
Pawn [email protected] 12, 2006 05:42 pm
I basically built a whole house high. Workers should be able to decide these things, they know there bodies. However is others see that is could be physicaly dangerous for themselves then they have the right to step in. Again in depends on the job and the drug. I dont want some doctor trippin&#39; on acid giving me surgery and I dont want my bus driver drunk. But it should be fine in programers and masons are stoned.
it would interesting if game designers or movie directors were high on the job [/b]
I agree the most creative movies/books I&#39;ve watched/read have been obviously drug-induced works.

[RedSabine]

Menial tasks, I find, are made much less menial while stoned. My freind works construction and he smokes everyday, he seems to think it keeps him from getting too worn out. However, I don&#39;t think jobs which require a lot of logical thought should be done blazed, because as we all know, pot really does fuck with your ability to think logically. But to ban them would be uncommunistic, in that it would restric the workers freedom, so It should be left up to personal choice.


But, I don&#39;t think anybody should drop two hits of acid and boot up for duct work. Hahahaha, that just put a really funny image in my mind.... :lol:

[anarchista feminista]

I know alot of workplaces around that are cool with pot. But I think it&#39;s a safety hazard especially when working with machinery and things like that. I think it&#39;s up to the individual to do what they want with their lives but when it comes to working in an environment where you can endanger others it isn&#39;t very safe.

[Exovedate]

As long as their work could not potentially cause harm to another person, I think the worker should be the judge of whether or not they should do drugs on the job. I know when I used to be a maintenance worker at a golf course that it was such a shitty job one had to knock back a couple of beers just to get thru the day. Since we (the employees) weren&#39;t allowed to go near the golfers, lest we disturb their game, there wasn&#39;t any chance of me hurting anyone. I think in this kind of situation it is okay to consume drugs on the job.

^EDIT: spelling mistakes

[which doctor]

I&#39;m really just the opposite...I think people should be forced to do drugs before they go to work.

[WUOrevolt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2006 06:29 am
I&#39;m really just the opposite...I think people should be forced to do drugs before they go to work.
I hope this is a joke.

[bezdomni]

I love drugs in the workplace, as long as nobody holds out on me.


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Really though, I think going to work high is usually a bad idea. I can&#39;t say I&#39;ve never done it before, but I&#39;d certainly not make a habit of it.

If I was in a "safety sensitive environment" (like operating machinery or driving or public safety), I wouldn&#39;t do drugs at work...simply out of the interest of self-preservation.

You don&#39;t need a fully sober brain to clean toilets though. Which is why several of my janitor friends are alcoholics.