racism

[kifl]

Has anyone here been attacked physically or verbally by a white supremist?

In high school there was this guy who claimed to be one, he would either call me a wop or kike everyday but he never got physical and in my opinion he was a bit of a cause he had indian and korean friends and liked rap.

not much of a story, I know.

[Cryotank Screams]

"Attacked?" no, but have I got into fights with racists? Yes, have I debated and argued with racists? Yes.

I did not win all the fights I was in simply because I'm not that good of a fighter, however in the arguing and debating arena, I totally kick ass.

[Chocobo]

Well since this thread is entitled racism i'll give my story, but its not white supremacy, its black "supremacy", or I like to call retaliation. While sitting on a bench, just sipping a hit chocolate last year while skateboarding in a couple of towns over from mine, a group of black people came up to me. Right away they began with the racist remarks, and instantly referring to me as a racist. I instantly stood up and stated (yelled) how i'm actually an equalist and how this is fucking bullshit their starting shit. So they were acting dumb and were like, "Why the fuck are you looking at me like that, huh cracker?", so i'm like shut the fuck up, you wanna help fight racism then don't retaliate with it, your acting like fucking idiots. So one of them steps up into my face and talks about how they shoot white people in their area and how many people they've shot and how white people suck. So I was like, "Fuck you, your a reactionary twat" and punched him in the jaw and ran like a coward.

Point being, even those who are racist towards white are just as dumb as those racist towards other ethics. Racists people do not learn to become non-racist, and as towards how dumb and ignorant the world is now, I doubt they ever will.

[Forward Union]

I've been verbally asulted by actual Card-carrying nazis on a few occasions and Physically assulted once.

And to Balthier, nice one.

[Jazzratt]

I knew a bonehead once. He's verbally assualted me a few times and physically at least three. Thankfully I've managed to escape the town I used to live in that also contained him, cause it was getting scary.

[Dimentio]

The primary school I grow up at was really strange. Due to my Latin American heritage, I was verbally assaulted and called the n-word. Heck, even a blonde guy from Bosnia was called the n-word.

The mainstream bloque in my small school was composed of a group of people who both listened to nazi-esque music and hiphop, dressed as hiphoppers but waved Swedish flags. They also believed that Offspring ["Pretty fly"] was an example of hiphop and actually cheered the guy who got beat up in the video.

The mainstream bloque was headed by a group of 25 year old guys who dropped out of the mechanics programme because it was too difficult. They sat outside school the whole day and tried to groove 14-year old girls into having sex with them by providing the girls with beer.

Some of them did also systematically puke into all flower gardens at the main square of the little town, and some of them once robbed the IT centre of 30 computer screens, which they latter dropped in a ditch.

I made some drawings of them, depicting them as monkeys. Today I regret it because of the sake of the monkeys.

[Chocobo]

^haha, do you have those pictures still? It would be killer to see them.

[Dimentio]

Probably hidden at a sellar somewhere.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 09, 2006 10:17 pm
I knew a bonehead once. He's verbally assualted me a few times and physically at least three. Thankfully I've managed to escape the town I used to live in that also contained him, cause it was getting scary.
Do you know where abouts we could find him? what are you doing next weekend?

Most of the Nazis here in Reading are fairly soft. They like to wear the insignia and make a fuss but wouldn't really hurt a fly. And from what I have noticed they are mostly 40+year old ageing throwbacks. None of them get along with each other and haven't had a meeting since the 80s. And I can quite confidently say there are about 8 of them.

One of them is fairly nuts though, and has physically attacked me and threatened me for stickering his neighbourhood. It's not really worth responding to, as they're are not an organised threat.

We chased him down an alleyway once, into a dead end road where we lost him, so we know roughly where he lives. Im not going to give away too much intelligence, but fascism is fairly moribund around here, mostly due to their own incompetence.

They&#39;re picking themseles up a bit more now though. <_<

[RedAnarchist]

Being white, I&#39;ve never been a victim of rascism (although there are rascists in every race and country) and we don&#39;t have many rascists around here, although the BNP and WNP (White Nationalist Party) are trying to stick their grubby little selves into the area.

[Hiero]

Originally posted by Love [email protected] 10, 2006 08:24 am
I&#39;ve been verbally asulted by actual Card-carrying nazis on a few occasions and Physically assulted once.

And to Balthier, nice one.
How is this racism? You are European, were these Nazis of a different racial group?

[RedAnarchist]

Not all Europeans are white. Some are of Asian or African ancestry. Same would go for white South Africans, who are African, not European. And some white people don&#39;t look "white" in the way nazis consider white.

[Dimentio]

I have also been ethnically attacked by some gangs of middle eastern ancestry in College.

[Hiero]

European means someone with European ancestry. There are Asian or Africans living in Europe and some people have mixed ancestry, though I doubt these people are forming Nazi groups runing around chasing white people.

I have seen a picture of Love Underground, and he looks European enough that Nazi&#39;s would have no reason to target him for racial reasons. His experience does not count as racism in the common sense. He should post these stories in anti-fascism.

[Dimentio]

Well, in Malmö and Linköping, I know there are some gangs composed of guys from the ghettoes, who are of middle eastern and eastern African descent and - at least claim to - systematically mug Swedes or people who look Swedish, of their cellphones, becaues of dislike of the Swedes.

Here in Umeå, there have been some tendencies to such gangs forming, at least in College.

[Hiero]

Gangs? We are not talking about your average gang of disempowered and poverty stricken black and brown youth. I am fully aware that these "gangs" exist, and I have a more Marxist analysis of these gangs then your chauvinist approach that these people simply hate swedish people.

Love Underground was talking about "NAZIS". I am talking about Nazis attacking white, this is simply not racism. Why do some white people have such a yearning to be victims of racism?

[Dimentio]

I am not Swedish, and they are not impoverished. In France, there may be a underclass of mainly North Africans, but here in Sweden, most of the people of Middle eastern and North African descent lives quite middle class lives. The reason why these groups have chosen Swedes as a target remain a riddle, some claims that they feel discriminated against, but most Middle easterners I met have not been engaged in gang activity against Swedes.

Is it racist to claim that black and brown people could be racist against Europeans?

[RedAnarchist]

No, it would be rascist to say that they could not be rascist, as you would be saying that they are not human enough to feel hatred towards another group of humans (hatred is a human emotion as much as anger and love are).

[Dimentio]

The question was rhetorical and I know the answer.

[RedAnarchist]

my mistake :blush:

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10, 2006 12:46 pm
I have seen a picture of Love Underground, and he looks European enough that Nazi&#39;s would have no reason to target him for racial reasons.
Oh right, well you&#39;re pretty much correct. Though the police report classified it as a racially motivated attack, because despite being white, the simple fact is, it was racially motivated.

Unlike the majority of the far right, serious Nazis (claim that they..) would never attack someone on the street based on their skin colour, It&#39;s against the aims and principals of the NF, N9S, BNP and many other nazi organisations. Their philosophy is that they&#39;re as much a victim of multiculturalism as the whites are. And that the real enemies of the white race are the people that militantly fight for multiculturalism and against nationalism. :rolleyes:

They categorise these people into two groups; Race traitors or "reds" like us, and Jews, who they believe to be a parasitic race, attempting to destroy the white race by integrating their culture with many others. To them, our role is to defend that jewish program. And so they hold us with far more distaste and hatred, then ethnic minorities.

Communists are victimised by nazis, more than people of colour. That&#39;s not to say communists are socially vicitmised more than ethnic groups, I know that&#39;s simply not true. Because nazis are a very insignificant section of British society. But I&#39;ve gone off on a huge tangent.

So whether im a victim of racism, is semantic. I don&#39;t care, I was simply following on from the user above me&#39;s post. I wouldn&#39;t say I was attacked for my skin colour, but I would say that the attack was racially motivated.

As for your original question, no, I can&#39;t recall being victimised for my skin colour. I&#39;ve been stopped by a group of black youths, tried to walk around them to be called "racist" "whitey" and "snowflake" but I take about as much offence from that as any other group of chavs shouting bullshit across the road, to probe for a reaction.

Older members of my family used to face anti-irish racism when they came to England. But that form of hate is very uncommon these days.

[Noah]

I work with my dad at his market stall sometimes and loads of people have called me a &#39;Sand ni**er&#39; when I&#39;m working&#33; I don&#39;t know why it&#39;s just that area.

[Dimentio]

I was just called ni**er att primary, then I was called "Hey you fucking Svenne" in some parts of the college.

[An archist]

I once was walking down the street when in the corner of my eye I noticed 2 big boneheads, seeing as I was alone, I ignored them, but then one of them shouted &#39;ey punker&#33;&#39;
I ignored him and walked on
Then he shouted &#39;ey, you communist&#39;
now, that I couldn&#39;t take of course, so I turned around, told him he insulted me, and asked what his problem was, they started whining about my antifa patches, so I replied &#39;I thought you guys were in favor of free speech?&#39;
They weren&#39;t smart enough to reply to that, so one of them started telling me about his 12-year old brother who got beaten up by louvain squatters (totally made up, I checked) so, we argued for argued for a while, I told them how they were being fooled and that fascism was just a joke, and then I left.

I was damn relieved because even the smallest one would probably have kicked my ass without a problem.

[Dimentio]

How the f*ck became the skin culture one of the incubators of modern neonazism?

[Ol' Dirty]

My school is almost all white, but we&#39;re in the more liberal Northeast, so I&#39;ve never been hastled by any haters. Even the black people in my area (incluiding my father) are pretty affluent. The strange thing here is that there are more Indians, Pakistani&#39;s and East Asians than blacks or latinos. We&#39;re a college town, so we&#39;re all pretty well eduated.

[Mujer Libre]

I&#39;ve had people say racist things to me/while I was around. They&#39;ve generally been insecure fifteen year old boys trying to impress their friends- so I (or a friend of mine) told them to fuck off.

Two instances stand out. Once I was at the cricket in South Africa and some kids in front of us were saying racist stuff about "curries" and my friend Sarah yelled at them so much they got up and moved. I think she embarassed them sufficiently...

Then in Melbourne, just after having dinner I got out of a lift and another group of younger boys (hmm, I&#39;m seeing a pattern here- young teenage white boys trying to look cool) said something in an "Indian" accent when I walked past. I turned around to tell them to fuck off, but they&#39;d already gotten into the lift. :/

Thankfully I&#39;ve never had any encounters with fascists. I can see my big mouth getting me in trouble.

[mac1905]

I don&#39;t know it&#39;s a racism, but I&#39;ve been few times called a &#39;Jew&#39;. I don&#39;t know if I had any jewish background, but in my country it&#39;s very popular to call people sympathising with left ideas or just not listening to right propaganda to be accused for being Jewish.

And once when I was traveling to the UK for my sumer job in Germany I was thrown out from shop because they heard I was speaking in my language and they were afraid I&#39;m going to steal from shop because of my nationality.

Another not happy accident when some women in Lviv called me:&#39;jobnaja sobaka and jobnyj lach&#39;. But generaly I don&#39;t have any problems with racist atacks on me. I&#39;m white.

Lot of racism, antisemithism and homophobia is introduced to our country by the infiltation of football fans by white supremacist organisations. When I used to be a football fan, very active going to matches etc. I seen couple of times flags with swastikas, david stars burned etc. I remember also when our team scored goal, few bald guys were sieg hailing to the players. They also behavied idiotic to the black players and often when black player was having the ball there were couple people shouting things like: &#39;ku klux klan&#39; &#39;apartheid&#33;&#39; &#39;go back ya monkey&#39; and behaving as a monkeys. I also heard that on other matches some people were throwing bannanas on the black players.

But the prejudice I see most always is antisemitism.

[RGacky3]

Strangly enough the only thing close I&#39;ve ever gotten was in Mexico, I&#39;m a Gringo from an Upper-Middle Class Family in California, when I was living in Mexico I was in a upper-calls neighborhood, and for some reason, Mexican Rich kids don&#39;t like Americans, I&#39;ve been verbally "assaulted" (I put that word in quotes because its a strong word, and a little too strong for some cocky douche bags mouthing off) by them, but then again Mexican upper-class people are some of the most dickhead racists the world will see, they treat lower classes and dark indian Mexicans horribly. But other than that not really, racism is a dying problem in the US as far as I see it.

[EwokUtopia]

Apart from dumbass white kids in grade school calling me "Whitey" "Albino Rhino" and "Q-tip" on account of my very fair hair, I havnt been subject to White Racism. This doesnt mean its not a problem, of course. There are plenty of terrible problems to which I am not afflicted. Starvation is one huge problem that all of us here on RevLeft can talk about and oppose without being personally affected by it (I am making the assumption that if you have a computer and internet connection, you can probably afford to eat at least a sufficient amount). White supremacy certainly is a huge problem, but I will say this: there will be no more racism in 100 years, because if humans are still so primitive as to allow such institutionalized discrimination in 50 years, we as a species wont make the next centennial.

[Revalation]

I was in Birmingham visiting a friend and I stupitlly wlaked to a shop on my own I did&#39;nt know the area and got lost when I was aproached by aload of asians and I asked for directions when they began shouting racial slurs at me I asked the guy who was right up at me if he was amir khan he said that he fucking was&#39;nt to which I replied good and hit the **** proper hard in the nose and then took the vicious beating that followed like a man. Oh and once a gang of black guys beat me with a mop because I angerly kicked there door in but i was drunk and thought my girl friend had locked me out I was only acutally a few streets away from my own house close enuff lol

[Luís Henrique]

Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 07:20 pm
I don&#39;t know it&#39;s a racism, but I&#39;ve been few times called a &#39;Jew&#39;. I don&#39;t know if I had any jewish background, but in my country it&#39;s very popular to call people sympathising with left ideas or just not listening to right propaganda to be accused for being Jewish.

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But the prejudice I see most always is antisemitism.
What country are you from?

[Pawn Power]

Well that was probably because you kicked their door in, not because you are white.

[Pawn Power]

Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2007 12:45 am
But other than that not really, racism is a dying problem in the US as far as I see it.
Well you see terribly wronge. Racism exists in the US though it may not be characterized by lynichings and segrigation any more.

What is now prominent is structural racism-racism built into the structure of the state.

Simply looking and the ration of black and latinos in the prision system can show you this. Look at life expectancy, poverty, school funding, ect... These statistics all reveal the structural racism that purposely oppresses non-white people in the US.

http://www.prisonersofthecensus.org/images/race_us_prison.jpg