I Have a Dream of Revolution

[Knight of Cydonia]

I have a dream that i can run a revolution in my "awfull government shit" country,there's a lot of thing to be procreated in my country. can anyone show me what should i do for proposing a propaganda to have some comrade to doing some action?

[Black Dagger]

What kind of propaganda do you have in mind?

Pictures?

Film?

Music?

Graffiti?

Pamphlets/flyers?

[Knight of Cydonia]

Originally posted by Black [email protected] 09, 2006 01:17 pm
What kind of propaganda do you have in mind?

Pictures?

Film?

Music?

Graffiti?

Pamphlets/flyers?
i think graffiti and pamphlet/flyers is good idea....
and what do you think if i go geurrillas from the internet ?is that effectife?

thank you anyway for your brilliant ideas comrade...

Viva la Revolucion!

[Chocobo]

Its not a dream if it becomes real ;)

As for graffiti propaganda, let me know what you come up with, i'd love to discuss with you. I'm a pretty active graffitist when it comes to leftist politics (Got busted about 4 months ago, 13 grand in debt, but I love this shit too much, back in the game!) so let me hear your ideas!

As for cyber-guerrilaing, well, uniting will be good, but if your discussing activity i'd suggest you do that on face to face measures, I don't trust the internet when it comes to radical action.

[Knight of Cydonia]

well with your history been busted 4 times..i guess you are a good leftist graffitier Balthier..

hmm..for firts, can you give me some example of graffiti that can lure some comrade to joint me in the action?

i appreciate your help,thanx before... :)

[Forward Union]

If you are in indonesia it might make sence to dp some stuff to raise awearness of your nations occupation of west papua?

I can put you in contact with a solidatrity group who desperatly need supporters in Indonesia.

[Fawkes]

maek sence to d osoem

Are you stoned?

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by Freedom for [email protected] 09, 2006 08:23 pm

maek sence to d osoem

Are you stoned?
I have been drinling alot in town, i corrected it tho! im not that drunk

anyway back on topic. please visit This site (http://www.freewestpapua.org/)

[Krasnaya]

Well maybe you should read lots of books. And then find other communists and cook meth or something. Use the money to fund your revolution.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Originally posted by Love [email protected] 09, 2006 08:20 pm
If you are in indonesia it might make sence to dp some stuff to raise awearness of your nations occupation of west papua?

I can put you in contact with a solidatrity group who desperatly need supporters in Indonesia.
thank you comrade,but as you know that Indonesia is a country with a lot of island and i live far-far away from west papua....i think i'm gonna support it from the site that you gave me...

thank you.....

Viva la Revolucion!

[Chocobo]

Graffiti tips, hmmm. Well that all depends on what your trying to get out there.

Some communist graffiti is always fun; nice and simple is how I like to go. Big red star, Fist in the center, and some nice bubbly letters spelling out "revolution". Of course there are tons of other slogans you can throw in with that, the red star plus fist is just my neutral tag, helps get me warmed up for the night, get the style going.

Karl Marx holding a scotch with a quote bubble saying, "If I can't drink to it, then this ain't a revolution!". Its funny, its unique, its all around great. RECOMMENDED STENCIL! Because free handing Marx is.....incredible? haha

KGB sheild and sword with a red fist punching it with a simple label of, "Freedom for all!" I use this mainly because nobody really understands the DOTP instantly, so I use "all" as in proletariat, then later on I explain it to people.
(This one can be seen as different. Some take it as anti-communist graffiti because its anti-KGB, so its kinda iffy).

Lenin with a thought bubble of the ocean in it. Personally, I don't even know what the ocean stands for, but I like it none the less, especially if its big. Also, because of Lenin's facial features his stencils are incredibly easy to make, so try and make it as big as you can and post it wherever you can. I think this one reminds me of the "OBEY" giant tag, no real meaning, it just makes people think. For color recommendations I suggest an all black/white Lenin and then make the ocean as distinctly blue as possible and extremly colorful/bright. It looks great.

Ya know the patriotic shit where the army people lift up the fallen american flag pole? Well I use that, but its a flagless pole. Some people don't get it, but I like it none the less.

Those are some of my recent designs. Usually all my stuff though was just poetics and the like, and my art was minimalized due to the fact I live in a over-policed suburban area (Safest city in America = Most policed city in America) and its a ***** to do heavy art. None of my past graffiti exists, but since i'm back into it now next mural I throw i'll take a picture of and send you it.

Also, where are you from? And are you targeting america for any of your graffiti? If so i'd love to work up some ideas with ya. My anti-american graffiti was actually small and mainly expressed through poetry, so yah, let me know your ideas.

[Knight of Cydonia]

thanks again for the tip Balthier :)

i like that Karl Marx thing ;) anyway i'm from Indonesia....and yeah there will be some of the garffiti i make would targeting America..coz you did you know that a few weeks ago George Bush has visiting Indonesia?

i didn't know what is the purpose of his visit but i hate that man a lot,are you hate him too?well the reason i hate him coz his acting like a war criminals and judging other people as a war criminal, what a god damn son of a *****....(sorry if my statement abou Bush is bugging you)

once again thank you :)

[Whitten]

Originally posted by knight of [email protected] 10, 2006 12:45 am
i didn't know what is the purpose of his visit but i hate that man a lot,are you hate him too?well the reason i hate him coz his acting like a war criminals and judging other people as a war criminal, what a god damn son of a *****....(sorry if my statement abou Bush is bugging you)
Trust me, it wont bug anyone :lol:

[Boriznov]

Originally posted by knight of [email protected] 10, 2006 12:45 am
thanks again for the tip Balthier :)

i like that Karl Marx thing ;) anyway i'm from Indonesia....and yeah there will be some of the garffiti i make would targeting America..coz you did you know that a few weeks ago George Bush has visiting Indonesia?

i didn't know what is the purpose of his visit but i hate that man a lot,are you hate him too?well the reason i hate him coz his acting like a war criminals and judging other people as a war criminal, what a god damn son of a *****....(sorry if my statement abou Bush is bugging you)

once again thank you :)
the ex-leader of the KKK came to my country for a nazi rally

how fucked up is that ?

[Knight of Cydonia]

Originally posted by Wingsomega+December 10, 2006 07:13 pm--> (Wingsomega @ December 10, 2006 07:13 pm)
knight of [email protected] 10, 2006 12:45 am
thanks again for the tip Balthier :)

i like that Karl Marx thing ;) anyway i'm from Indonesia....and yeah there will be some of the garffiti i make would targeting America..coz you did you know that a few weeks ago George Bush has visiting Indonesia?

i didn't know what is the purpose of his visit but i hate that man a lot,are you hate him too?well the reason i hate him coz his acting like a war criminals and judging other people as a war criminal, what a god damn son of a *****....(sorry if my statement abou Bush is bugging you)

once again thank you :)
the ex-leader of the KKK came to my country for a nazi rally

how fucked up is that ? [/b]
whoa,that sure it's really fucked up man...which country did you livin' anyway?
and nazi rally?&#33; what the fuck was that?i thought that there are no more nazi in this world. <_<

[Boriznov]

Belgium, the rally was also with the leader of the BNP

[Guild-soicalist]

Originally posted by knight of [email protected] 10, 2006 01:14 pm



whoa,that sure it&#39;s really fucked up man...which country did you livin&#39; anyway?
and nazi rally?&#33; what the fuck was that?i thought that there are no more nazi in this world. <_< [/quote]
Ho, their not gone, a few mouths ago I saw one. He was in a WWII uniform driving a car with the logo of the "desert rats" (The swastika on a pram tree) a nazi crack regiment on the side. He must have been on the way to some rally or other. That&#39;s in southern England&#33;

[Dimentio]

Is&#39;nt Vlaams Belang the most notorious nazis in Belgium?

[Chocobo]

i like that Karl Marx thing anyway i&#39;m from Indonesia....and yeah there will be some of the garffiti i make would targeting America..coz you did you know that a few weeks ago George Bush has visiting Indonesia?

Indonesia? Interesting. Out of curiosity, how tight is the law there? The only information I have on Indo is sweatshop information really, im pretty much ignorant to everything outside of that. And I had no idea that bloody fuck went to Indo&#33; He&#39;s truely a bastard, the fuck doesn&#39;t do anything and is just a puppet to the higher ups. At most he travels around and shakes the hands of other hierarchys, smiles, gets pictures, and gets congratulated by Republicans and Conservatives. Then democrats fight against his policies and make some dumb headline like, "Bush has time to travel but not command?&#33;" well fuck, he&#39;s a puppet anyway you fools&#33; But yah, I hate Bush too, bloody fucking conservative who&#39;s whole family line are just Nazi affilated or corporatist fucks. "Outlaw weed with lies? Great." "Supply Nazi companies? Great&#33;" The whole Bush line is fucked up&#33;

Why did he go to Indonesia though? Was there any point really?

[Boriznov]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10, 2006 06:46 pm
Is&#39;nt Vlaams Belang the most notorious nazis in Belgium?
yes but for the most they deny it so they can get more workers on there side by blinding them with propaganda of that foreigners are taking all our jobs.
Vlaams Belang even has there own militia, i read this on various interviews with notorius skinheads. there own militia :wacko:

[Knight of Cydonia]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11, 2006 01:46 am

i like that Karl Marx thing anyway i&#39;m from Indonesia....and yeah there will be some of the garffiti i make would targeting America..coz you did you know that a few weeks ago George Bush has visiting Indonesia?

Indonesia? Interesting. Out of curiosity, how tight is the law there? The only information I have on Indo is sweatshop information really, im pretty much ignorant to everything outside of that. And I had no idea that bloody fuck went to Indo&#33; He&#39;s truely a bastard, the fuck doesn&#39;t do anything and is just a puppet to the higher ups. At most he travels around and shakes the hands of other hierarchys, smiles, gets pictures, and gets congratulated by Republicans and Conservatives. Then democrats fight against his policies and make some dumb headline like, "Bush has time to travel but not command?&#33;" well fuck, he&#39;s a puppet anyway you fools&#33; But yah, I hate Bush too, bloody fucking conservative who&#39;s whole family line are just Nazi affilated or corporatist fucks. "Outlaw weed with lies? Great." "Supply Nazi companies? Great&#33;" The whole Bush line is fucked up&#33;

Why did he go to Indonesia though? Was there any point really?
well,talk about the law in Indonesia,the god damn cops are arresting some of the graffiti bombers too, they said it was illegal to make some graffiti in the city.

And about the US puppets,hmm...i&#39;m afraid that my country was gonna be the one of the puppet too..god damn it.

and about the visit is off the record said the media,there are 6 agenda and one of &#39;em is a secret meeting that media doesn&#39;t allowed to record it,and i wonder what kind of it?