World Federation of Democratic Youth

[Felicia]

http://www.wfdy.org/

check this place out, what do you guys think? They don't have a chapter in north america though. I received an email from them through the communist party so there's got to be some political backing in canada, so getting a chapter started (if that's even a possibility) in a major city here could be done! Most likely with support of leftist and revolutionary parties and organizations. I was sent some kind of propaganda poster for reproduction, but I didn't receive the file :lol:

They're an organization with reasonable status, recognized by the UN as an international NGO (no groaning!) and definitely worth a look into! They have groups all over the world, but nothing for North America, I think that needs to change!

here's a wiki article for a quick overview.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WFDY


edit: well, I guess they have some organizers in north america, the YCL USA I guess is on the council or something??? I don't quite understand their structuring, I think they're just sister organizations, or a compilation of many that make up the WFDY? Oi, I'm confused but I'm doing more research! :D

[Felicia]

hmm, so I guess it's smaller organizations that make up the larger one... which I suppose is obvious by the name *embarassed*

[Severian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 08, 2006 01:53 am
http://www.wfdy.org/

check this place out, what do you guys think? They don't have a chapter in north america though.
It's more of a federation of youth groups in different countries, rather than an organization with local chapters and individual members. Member organizations in North America include the Young Communist League and the Young Socialists.

Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federation_of_Democratic_Youth) has a partial list of other member organizations.

[Felicia]

yeah, I read that later :lol:

hmm, I guess the YCL of canada used to be a member....interesting...

EDIT: oh wow, the YCL of canada (under a different name when the communist party was outlawed in canada...) was a founding member! sweet.

[Wanted Man]

The WFDY basically unites communist youth groups all over the world. The YCLs in the Americas and Britain are members, and I believe that the now outlawed Czech KSM is as well. The Dutch ANJV was in it, before it disbanded.

[Enragé]

isnt the CJB in it?

[Wanted Man]

No, not sure why tbh. Probably because we're officially still in a "building up" phase. But we cooperate with the WFDY and the movements in it(like the solidarity for KSM campaign).

Other important members include the youth of the Workers Party of Korea(DPRK), as well as the youth leagues of the CPs of Vietnam, Laos, and Cuba. The German FDJ(the youth movement in the former DDR, it still exists! :D) as well as the SDAJ(German DKP's youth), the Greek KNE, etc.

Every 4 years, they also organise a huge festival. During the Cold War, these were in locations like East Berlin, Budapest, Bucharest, Sofia, and, in 1989, Pyongyang. Others were held in capitals of countries that were neutral in the Cold War, like Finland and Austria. More recent editions were in Algiers, Havana, and, in 2005, Caracas.

The CJB delegation didn't manage to get there last year because they were screwed over by Iberia Airlines(they would fly from Amsterdam to Madrid, and then from there to Venezuela, but they missed their connection, and the bastards not only failed to arrange a new flight, but also did not refund them :().

But in 2009, we can always try again! I sure hope I can afford to join when that happens.

[Honggweilo]

:lol: , im the one who proposed posting the link in get active, guess it payed off :D


hey don't have a chapter in north america though

They do, it's run by the Communist Youth League and participated by an number of other youth organisations.


No, not sure why tbh. Probably because we're officially still in a "building up" phase. But we cooperate with the WFDY and the movements in it(like the solidarity for KSM campaign).


We are, together with our comrades from the belgian COMAC, on their watch/holding list. We already have some official contacts. The demands for entering the WFDY is that you must be introduced by another member organisation (a co-option system). The best contacts we have are the belgian COMAC, but they arent official members yet due to minor issues in the past (due to maoist background). The other option would be the German SDAJ, Czech KSM, Greek KNE or maybe the portuguese JPC, which we also have good mutual contacts with. Another problem is the dutch ANJV isnt fully disbanded yet due to a legal issue. But we have former active ANJV members who are willing to help us complete the transitions. In addition, as WWSD points out, we are still a movement in "building up" and need to consolidate a structure and stability so that we can really activley participate in the WFDY and World Festival. Our belgian comrades are in a far more better state then we currently are, though we're getting there, and they will be introduced and join the WFDY in about a year.

Some of the youth movements in the WFDY are;

Ho Chi Minh Youth Brigade - Vietnam
KNE - Greece
Juventude Communista Português - Portugal
Union Juventude Comunista - Cuba
Communist Youth of Venezuela
Komunisite Sveze Mladez - Czech Republic
Communist Youth League - Britain
Union Juventude Communista Espana - Spain
Uniao Juventude Socialista - Brazil
MLPA Youth - Angola
Revolutionary Youth of Laos - Laos
Kim Il Sung Youth Brigade - North Korea
Communist Youth of South Africa - South Africa
Juvenesse Comuniste - France
Socialistische Arbeider Jugend Deutschland - Germany
Freie Deutsche Jugend - Germany (East)
Kommunistische Jugend Östreich - Austria
Fremilo youth - Mozambique
JUCO - Colombia
Communist Youth League Canada - Canada
Revolutionary Communist Youth Sweden - Sweden
Kommunistische Ungverdom Norge - Norway
*Various Russian communist youth movements (komsomols) - Russia
Giovanni Communisti - Italy
Left Front/Communist Youth of Hungary -Hungary
Communist Youth of the TKP - Turkey
*Various Nepalese communist youth movements - Nepal
*Various Indian communist youth movements - India
Juvenesse Socialiste - Morroco

Aditioning organisations;

COMAC - Belgium
CJB - Netherlands

EDIT: Ah i see Severian posted a link to the Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federation_of_Democratic_Youth)
List , thx i forgot about that.


And alot more, soon the list wil be published on the WFDY site. Also there is a list of participants at the official site of the last World Youth Festival.

And if you would be wondering where the Communist Youth League of China is? It left the WFDY becausehad too close ties with the SU, the Sino-Soviet split also effected the youth movements. Although alot of the movements in the WFDY had a neutral stance in the Sino-Soviet conflict, the CYLC did not join. But maybe in the near future the is a chance they would send a delegation aswell, since the conflict isnt there anymore and the new CPC leadership has shown interests in other communist parties around the world.

http://www.festivalmundial2005.org.ve/


Now for some impressions of the World Youth Festival in Caracas 2005

http://www.wfdy.org/Festivals/Venezuela/Pictures/Festival%20Days/A%20(159).jpg
http://www.wfdy.org/Festivals/Venezuela/Pictures/Festival%20Days/A%20(160).jpg
http://www.chengetheworld.org/img/aout2004Caracas/dagboek/050809/massa%202.jpg

Massive :D

http://www.chengetheworld.org/img/aout2004Caracas/dagboek/050809/groepsfoto%202.jpg

The Belgian and (some of the :(, due to Iberia problems) Dutch delegation. Including the Comac, Former ANJV members, and CJB members

http://www.yclusa.org/ezimagecatalogue/catalogue/variations/275-400x500.jpg

Hey look! yankees :lol:

http://www.chengetheworld.org/img/aout2004Caracas/dagboek/verblijf.jpg

One of the sleeping quarters they most equaly share :)

http://www.chengetheworld.org/img/aout2004Caracas/dagboek/050809/vietnamezen.jpg
http://www.wfdy.org/Festivals/Venezuela/Pictures/Opening/1%20(11).jpg

Goodmorning vietnam :D

http://www.wfdy.org/Festivals/Venezuela/Pictures/Opening/1%20(45).jpg

Commiepunks

http://www.wfdy.org/Festivals/Venezuela/Pictures/Opening/1%20(77).jpg

Kim Ir Sung Youth Brigade, not so ronry after all :P. Although that guy up front looks a bit ronry :(

http://www.wfdy.org/Festivals/Venezuela/Pictures/Opening/1%20(119).jpg

Small part of the cuban delegation, socialismo o muerté!

http://www.wfdy.org/Festivals/Venezuela/Pictures/Festival%20Days/A%20(216).jpg

Chavez speaks to the youth

http://www.wfdy.org/Festivals/Venezuela/Pictures/Festival%20Days/A%20(135).jpg
http://www.chengetheworld.org/img/aout2004Caracas/report/verkleind/Verkleind/slot.jpg

Ending ceremony

For more pics and info , look here

http://www.wfdy.org/16festivals.htm

Anyway, totally of the record... I pwnd the WFDY chairman and the international secretary of the cypriotic youth EDON, at table football together with the Chairman the COMAC. That would certainly raise our credibility would it not :ph34r:

[Honggweilo]

Ow and plz dont quote me, i dont want a picture train ^^

[Wanted Man]

Oh, so there were some CJB people then? I thought that there were only 2 of us, who both got stranded in Spain thanks to Iberia. :P

[Honggweilo]

Yes but the former ANJV members in the NCPN took over our respresentation :P

[Wanted Man]

Ah, I see. And thanks for those pics, they are really cool. Do I spy a Spanish Republican flag above one of the dorms? :D This is pretty cool too:

http://www.wfdy.org/Festivals/Venezuela/Pictures/Festival%20Days/A%20(108).jpg
Long live the DDR! :D

Damn, after seeing all those pictures, I really want to go next time! It must be amazing, meeting so many comrades from all over the world... I wonder where the next one will be held.

Also nice, traditional Korean dress:

http://www.wfdy.org/Festivals/Venezuela/Pictures/Opening/1%20(48).jpg

http://www.wfdy.org/Festivals/Venezuela/Pictures/Opening/1%20(49).jpg

[Honggweilo]

Damn, after seeing all those pictures, I really want to go next time! It must be amazing, meeting so many comrades from all over the world... I wonder where the next one will be held.

I heard some rumors :rolleyes: , maybe Bolivia, Vietnam or Venezuela again. And a very small chance, but maybe even Nepal if the situation is right and the revolution is succesful :lol:


Do I spy a Spanish Republican flag above one of the dorms?

Yep, thats from the spanish UCJE :P, also next to it is the socialist version of the Catalonian flag :D

[Wanted Man]

Originally posted by [email protected] 09, 2006 03:43 pm
I heard some rumors :rolleyes: , maybe Bolivia, Vietnam or Venezuela again. And a very small chance, but maybe even Nepal if the situation is right and the revolution is succesful :lol:
LOL, that would be funny. :lol: But aren't the Nepalis in the WFDY all CPN(Unified Marxist)? What are their relations with the Maoists?

Anyway, wherever it is, I'd like to go. And discuss with the DPRK delegation, so when I get home, I can be like: "Mommy, I talked to North Koreans!" :D

[Zero]

Wow, that is amazing, it really makes me wish I spoke a word of Spanish. =\

EDIT: Hold on a sec, they don't have a place in North America?
http://www.wfdy.org/Festivals/Venezuela/Pictures/Festival%20Days/A%20(106).jpg
Maybe I'm just stereotyping, but that guy in the back looks like he is from the Big Apple.

[Honggweilo]

Maybe I'm just stereotyping, but that guy in the back looks like he is from the Big Apple.

Don't want to be a whiner but, why is that relevant :P?

[Enragé]

Other important members include the youth of the Workers Party of Korea(DPRK),
sorry?

i thought it was democratic youth?

[Honggweilo]

*aplauds NKOS on yet another typical scarecrow one-liner* :rolleyes:. See "broad anti-fascist and anti-imperialist youth federation"

[Wanted Man]

Agreed. Organizations that agree to the basic principles(and are invited by another org, apparently) can join, so that includes them. I think it's very positive to have a DPRK youth org involved, because an international leftist organization should not contribute to the imperialist isolation that is already going on against that country. This may well be one of the few, if not the only political and cultural exchange between the youth of the DPRK and the rest of the world, so I support it, even though I have a lot of reservations about the Juche idea.

[Severian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 08, 2006 01:45 pm
The WFDY basically unites communist youth groups all over the world.
That description's a bit out of date. It used to be the organization of the official "Communist" youth groups, but now a lot of other organizations belong as well.

[Enragé]

Originally posted by [email protected] 09, 2006 03:39 pm

http://www.wfdy.org/Festivals/Venezuela/Pictures/Festival%20Days/A%20(108).jpg
Long live the DDR! :D


oh yea long live the DDR

remind me to tell that to german friends my father has the next time they visit, they had such fun in the DDR, they especially liked all the freedom they had and the STASI
oh so much fun they had


*aplauds NKOS on yet another typical scarecrow one-liner* . See "broad anti-fascist and anti-imperialist youth federation"

"World Federation of DEMOCRATIC Youth"

look if you want to call it something else like "the broad anti-fascist and anti-imperialist youth federation"

fine
go ahead
but if you're going to call it DEMOCRATIC, it might be a good idea to actually have like...you know...democratic organisations in it.

donno just a thought


This may well be one of the few, if not the only political and cultural exchange between the youth of the DPRK and the rest of the world, so I support it, even though I have a lot of reservations about the Juche idea.

err yea
and i bet you all applaud the achievements of the great Kim Jung Il when they come visit, cuz if you dont you're breaking partyline, and if you actually would criticize north korea's system
well then the north koreans wouldnt be in it for long now would they!

[Honggweilo]

remind me to tell that to german friends my father has the next time they visit, they had such fun in the DDR, they especially liked all the freedom they had and the STASI
oh so much fun they had

Wow, i certainly can&#39;t cope with your 1337 debating skills <_< if you want to start and critisize the lack of indepth critzism, i suggest you improve your own, cut the trolling and stay on topic. This not a DDR or NK discussion, and im not going to argue the everyday life in those countries, which you ofcourse have your own limited opinion about, which i heard over a dozen times b4. I also have alot of relatives from diferent former eastern european countries who all share mixed stories which most of them are much more positive towards the DDR than to modern day capitalist germany, so don&#39;t come whining about some vague aquantances. Maybe you should do some research and you might actually learn something more then biased biased schoolbook slander, b4 bursting out in to cynical one-liners while "grassrooted" to your pc telling us how to "organize".

And btw, the STASI made awsome punk :lol:


That description&#39;s a bit out of date. It used to be the organization of the official "Communist" youth groups, but now a lot of other organizations belong as well.

Well that does count as an improvement doesnt it?

[Enragé]

also have alot of relatives from diferent former eastern european countries who all share mixed stories which most of them are much more positive towards the DDR than to modern day capitalist germany

those people actually do like the DDR alot more in a lot of things

but what does that have to do with the shitty nature of the DDR?
Just because capitalist germany is worse, doesnt mean "communist" east germany was a good thing.

oh and indepth?
any sources i&#39;d provide would either be labelled as propaganda or just as "their way of doing things".
so yah.

[Honggweilo]

any sources i&#39;d provide would either be labelled as propaganda or just as "their way of doing things".

cynical presumptiousness... dont be a cock <_<


but what does that have to do with the shitty nature of the DDR?
Just because capitalist germany is worse, doesnt mean "communist" east germany was a good thing.
It was a good thing, in my perspective. It was not perfect, alas. But hey, i just barrage stalinist propaganda so dont take my word for it :rolleyes:

But anyway, back to topic plz.

[Zeruzo]

remind me to tell that to german friends my father has the next time they visit, they had such fun in the DDR, they especially liked all the freedom they had and the STASI
oh so much fun they had

Yeah, revolution is all about having lots of fun and playing games like tag&#33;
W00h00&#33; Long live the revolution, and then masturbate for all of eternity&#33;
<_<

edit: see, i&#39;m good at one-liners too :).

[Honggweilo]

Long live the revolution, and then masturbate for all of eternity&#33;


Is that how you spend most of the day :lol: ? whats wrong with real sexual intercourse?

[The Grey Blur]

I&#39;m a bit confused how Stalinists are in a group with a name such as &#39;World Dederation Of Democratic Youth&#39;. Shouldn&#39;t that be &#39;World Federation of Youth Who May Act To Defend The Revolution Through Show-Trials And Compromises With The International Beurgeois...If You&#39;re Naughty&#39;

...No? Just me? Oh, alright then...

[Wanted Man]

Okay, I admit it, you are right. In fact, I&#39;ve already mailed your info to our Dear Leader. That&#39;s a one-way trip to Siberia for you, after the revolution. :rolleyes:

But do tell us what international you are in, yourself. I&#39;m sure it has done a great job of uniting hundreds of youth organizations from hundreds of countries, taking an active stand in defence of Cuba, Venezuela, the KSM, etc.

But then again, maybe not. :lol: So did it arise from a split? Is it run from America, or from Britain? Who do you hate more? "The sects" in general, perhaps? Or some other insult that trotskyists like to fling at each other?

[The Grey Blur]

:lol: We&#39;re called Socialist Youth and I guess we&#39;re aligned with the ISR, which is an Internationalist Youth Socialist grouping. And yeah we&#39;re nowhere near as big as the brainwashed legions of the Stalinist youth groups you have...sadly... :(

[Wanted Man]

Well, size is not really relevant, as an ideologically weak mass party is next to useless. But I doubt that any trot internationals will ever organize anything like the World Festival of Youth and Students. Well, unless it&#39;s a chance for them to sell papers. :lol:

But enough about this subject. I&#39;m feeling the strange urge to start reading Trotsky, all of a sudden. So excuse me, but I have to get to the party office post haste and get locked up in one of our special WFDY Brainwash Pods for a while.

[The Grey Blur]

Well, size is not really relevant
Very true :)



So excuse me, but I have to get to the party office post haste and get locked up in one of our special WFDY Brainwash Pods for a while.
You do that...

[JKP]

Seeing as how the GDR was most the most monstrous blemish against communism and the workers struggle in general after the Soviet Union, I certainly do think that this is up for discussion.


East Germany&#39;s secret police, the Stasi, was larger than the Gestapo, and they had modern technology to boot. They also had a military arm trained by the NVA. Tangible proof of the STASI&#39;s unassailable position at the top of the power structure of the DDR.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/galbaldy/Stasi_004_540px.jpg
Uniforms were directly copied from the Gestapo as well..

I sure as hell can tell you that the WFDY doesn&#39;t represent working class youth, except of course, those who think that communism is a state despotism.

[Zeruzo]

Your point isnt really a point, the only real point you made is that they coppied the uniforms from the gestapo. You did not analyze why or what, and what the GDR and the German communists have really done in struggling against the Nazi&#39;s.

[JKP]

Originally posted by [email protected] 31, 2006 05:51 pm
Your point isnt really a point, the only real point you made is that they coppied the uniforms from the gestapo. You did not analyze why or what, and what the GDR and the German communists have really done in struggling against the Nazi&#39;s.
What does this have to do with German resistance against the Nazis? My point is that the DDR was a totalitarian anti-worker state and that any communist should have massive reservations against someone who supports it.

[Zeruzo]

I was talking about after WW2 and before of course (since the government of the GDR was mostly made up out of KPD-members).

[Honggweilo]

is it serouisly neccesary go on about your biased view on what or doesnt represent the working class, a concept most of you have problems with to graps, let alone represent. This topic was about the WFDY, not about how STASI uniforms look like gestapo uniforms and use it as an argument against the "fierce brutal repression of stalinist rule, bureaucracy, anti-worker anti blah blah fill in anarcho-self-proclaimed-communist biased rethoric here".. I can also rant on about that the colors of the National Socialist Bund of the netherlands took its colors from the anarcho syndicalist movement, therefore anarchists are fascists, but that would make me a prick and i would probably be flagged.

Plz back to topic or stop flaming, go to the history section where you can whine all you like about the GDR

*same thing for you Zezuro

[JKP]

It&#39;s more like, you don&#39;t support an organization if it happens to support capitalism, and you don&#39;t support organizations that support anti worker regimes.

It&#39;s really quite simple.