IRISH FORUM OPENED

[Connolly]

Comrades,

As those familiar with politics.ie will know, it excludes most leftist parties from its forum list in favour of the mostly bourgeois parties such as the PD's, FF, FG, GP, LP (although they are the largest after all). I see this as abit unfair and wish to establish an alternative board for leftist parties who should be represented in a general forum.

The idea of this forum is to challenge the dominance, although feebly, of Politics.ie.

I invite all potential members, be it Anarchist, Marxist or whatever, to join this forum and help it build and expand. All criticisms and help welcome.

The forum, as you will see, is a mixture of Revleft and P.ie in its structure.

Its not complete as of now as some relevent avatars, buttons and logo's are not added - but they will be in time.

At present, and because I just opened and announced it, I am the only member :lol: , although hopefully the forum, with your help, will expand.


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LINK: Class Politics Ireland (http://cpireland.proboards82.com/index.cgi)

[Aurora]

I'll join up comrade :) im not familiar with politics.ie but the structure of your board looks good.

[Sir Aunty Christ]

I'm in.

[Connolly]

I'll join up comrade im not familiar with politics.ie but the structure of your board looks good.

Thanks comrade :D

Youv never heard of politics.ie? :o

Check it out, its quite big and active. Im not a big fan of it though, full of arrogant PD w*****s.


I'm in.

Cheers! :D


It will be a while before I get it up and running proper. Im still waiting for broadband so I wont be as active as what I could be. :(

[Aurora]

Comrade you should PM some of the irish comrades on here.Im sure they'd be happy to join.

[Connolly]

So far iv just PMd one person. Ill PM the rest once the board is a bit more "complete". Some logo's and avatars need to be put in and also I will get the ball rolling a with couple of posts. Hopefully others will see this link before hand.

[lithium]

I'm there. Nice site!

[Redmau5]

Originally posted by The [email protected] 08, 2006 12:58 am
Comrades,

As those familiar with politics.ie will know, it excludes most leftist parties from its forum list in favour of the mostly bourgeois parties such as the PD's, FF, FG, GP, LP (although they are the largest after all).
You forgot Sinn Fein comrade. :P

But yea i'll sign up to your forum.

[Connolly]

You forgot Sinn Fein comrade.

But yea i'll sign up to your forum.

:blush: , yeah, I was thinking whether to put them in there or not and exclude them from the forum (they do have a slot at P.ie after all). Ill start a poll in the forum ( :lol: I know, there's only six members at present) to democratically decide.


I'm there. Nice site!

Cheers lithium! :)

[Connolly]

Just an update, a bump too :P


The website can now be accessed via a new address - easier to remember.


New address - Class Politics Ireland (http://www.CPIreland.tk)

[TheCoolerKing]

Im in comrade

[Aurora]

Sorry i havent been active,just been busy with xmas,new years and marx ;)

[Coggeh]

Originally posted by [email protected] 04, 2007 03:06 am
Im in comrade
Me too :)

[Connolly]

Im in comrade


Me too

Welcome and Welcome!! :D

Thank you very much for joining.


Sorry i havent been active,just been busy with xmas,new years and marx

:lol:

No problem comrade, I havnt been the most active either over the last 11 days (nil posts) :( .

I havnt had much time at-all recently to dedicate to the forum. I will though soon enough.

Thank you again comrades!

[Sir Aunty Christ]

Is this one dead too?

[Dr Mindbender]

yer must be. All I got was a general site from 'proboards'. Me and another revleft poster redflag32 did something very similar to this last year but it only survived a couple of months. Oh well.

[Connolly]

Is this one dead too?

Yep. :(

Ot was difficult to keep it going alone (didnt have the time) and there wasnt much traffic. So.....

Glad you noticed though! :D

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by The [email protected] 11, 2007 04:42 pm

Is this one dead too?

Yep. :(

Ot was difficult to keep it going alone (didnt have the time) and there wasnt much traffic. So.....

Glad you noticed though! :D
You should make another attempt, only this time try and publicise it among a much bigger audience. A good starting point would be sites owned by the Irish diaspora of America and Australia (most of whom are republican sympathisers). Then of course, youve got homegrown radicals like the IRSP among others.

[Sir Aunty Christ]

The problem I've found with a lot of political discussion boards is that not a lot of discussion goes on. They become a dumping ground for news stories, articles or videos.

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by Sir Aunty [email protected] 11, 2007 05:27 pm
The problem I've found with a lot of political discussion boards is that not a lot of discussion goes on. They become a dumping ground for news stories, articles or videos.
If it manages to attract people from outside the cookie cutter school of left wing republicanism, then at least some progress will be made. Hopefully more working class protestants could be encouraged to come into the fray.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

Okay okay, I have exams now, but after that I'm finished studying. So what do you guys say about, over the summer, making a serious attempt at building and sustaining an Irish-based left-wing political forum? Anyone who consents here can partake in the administration of the new board, and we can all make serious efforts to spread the word of its existence as far as possible.

Any takers?

[PRC-UTE]

Originally posted by The [email protected] 11, 2007 04:42 pm

Is this one dead too?

Yep. :(

Ot was difficult to keep it going alone (didnt have the time) and there wasnt much traffic. So.....

Glad you noticed though! :D
all of those of a left perspective should get organised and take over p.ie :lol: :P

gotta be the worst internet forum ever, probably half the posters are just trolling. any time there's a thread about republicanism some west brit or unionist nutter breaks out with 'BOBBY SANDS ATE PRODESTUNT BABIES!!!111'

[Connolly]

Okay okay, I have exams now, but after that I'm finished studying. So what do you guys say about, over the summer, making a serious attempt at building and sustaining an Irish-based left-wing political forum? Anyone who consents here can partake in the administration of the new board, and we can all make serious efforts to spread the word of its existence as far as possible.

Any takers?

Id be up for giving it a go. We would need more people involved.


all of those of a left perspective should get organised and take over p.ie

gotta be the worst internet forum ever, probably half the posters are just trolling. any time there's a thread about republicanism some west brit or unionist nutter breaks out with 'BOBBY SANDS ATE PRODESTUNT BABIES!!!111'

Tell me about it. I bloody hate the "politics" on there. Its so "middle-of-the-road".

Not to mention the invasion by thick rightwing dopes - "Catapla" (to name just one). :rolleyes:

[Qwerty Dvorak]

Id be up for giving it a go. We would need more people involved.
Obviously. I'll probably start a thread about it here towards the end of exams. I reckon we could get a good few members to participate, either from those who are just getting into left-wing politics or those who have tried and failed to start such a forum in the past. We could also make it easier for ourselves, both when finding administrators and finding members, if we base the site on a broad range of political ideas, not just Marxism and Anarchism. Just call it something like IrishLeft or something.

I reckon it's worth a try, if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out, but I think it'd be nice to have a successful Irish left-wing forum for once.

[Dr Mindbender]

You can count me in, as long as theres also a conscientious intention along the way to get other people other than the usual suspects involved.
Arguably the biggest challenge the irish left faces is overcoming the comfort zone in not breaking down the cross-community divide. Its just a matter of counter-arguing the bullshit that the loyalists and paisleyites are feeding people.

[CheRev]

You could try putting it onto www.boards.ie. It must be the biggest forum in Ireland and I know they have a good few lefties on it. It would have to be seen as not too extreme although to get people to check it out. It mightn´t be left up for long, so maybe if someone posts a few times with it in their signature (in BIG WRITING) then it might get some hits. I know there´s a few lefties on the board.

Also, all going well, I should be able to help out.

[Sir Aunty Christ]

Count me in too. I have bucketloads of time on my hands.

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by Sir Aunty [email protected] 12, 2007 01:56 pm
Count me in too. I have bucketloads of time on my hands.
Lucky you. :(

[Aurora]

I'll try and help out too if i have the time.

Also when the board is up people should give the link to their comrades in any parties or organisations they're in.Hopefully we can get enough people on,that it wont die out.

Although i imagine that the board will get flooded with Labour :rolleyes:

[Qwerty Dvorak]

Well then we'll have plenty of potential commies to convert!

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2007 09:11 pm
Well then we'll have plenty of potential commies to convert!
...commies...to...convert? That doesnt make sense! :blink:

[Qwerty Dvorak]

potential commies...

[Connolly]

People have made some good points in my opinion. Such as calling it "Irishleft" (or something along those lines) and keeping it "somewhat" moderate in its appearance so as to accommodate a broader left.


How many should we aim for to kick it off? - so far, my count is at 7 (or so).

Would someone like to PM coggy and ask him if he'd like to be involved (since he cant post here).

Would it be a good idea to open a forum to discuss and vote on the layout, operation, name, colours etc of the forum? - that would probably gather all those wishing to help to one place to talk about it.... - rather than discuss in an unorganized way here.

[Sir Aunty Christ]

Were those previous attempts at creating a forum done with services that naturally go defunct after a while or did they disappear through lack of use?

[Connolly]

Were those previous attempts at creating a forum done with services that naturally go defunct after a while or did they disappear through lack of use?

Im not sure I entirely understand your question. The reason the "CPI" forum wasnt working was due to me running it alone. So, you got it spot on when you say it became a dumping ground for links articles videos etc because no discussion went on.

Its difficult to ask open questions when the chances are, noone will reply.


I think if there are enough people involved directly in the running of a new forum, and who are dedicated to its success - rather than a single admin talking to himself and without others feeling the same way for its success - then discussion could be created through our efforts.

The lessons learned through CPI were that a forum needs more than a single person dedicated to its promotion and discussion.

Maybe others could tell us what their experiences were with their attempts? Ulster socialist, Redstar1916 and tell us what you felt were the problems - maybe we could work on them to avoid or reduce them happening again......

SAC, im not sure what you mean by services that go defunct?

[Sir Aunty Christ]

My bad. I didn't make myself clear. I was wondering if it was in the nature of the hosting services (for example, CRMI was hosted by armbell) for the boards to disappear after a while rather than remain permanent. I hope that was clear but I'm not a techie so I haven't a clue about servers and the like.

[Connolly]

My bad. I didn't make myself clear. I was wondering if it was in the nature of the hosting services (for example, CRMI was hosted by armbell) for the boards to disappear after a while rather than remain permanent. I hope that was clear but I'm not a techie so I haven't a clue about servers and the like.

Sorry for not copping on to it. I dont know really. So you would be talking about things like "proboards" and things like that.

I know its possible to purchase a better forum platform - revleft and P.ie for example would have to be paid for everysooften.

I think it comes down to the dedication of the people running it in the end.

"The Starry Plough Initiative"(see link in sig) is an example where there is two very dedicated (and fair play to them) admins on there whov been at it for, it must be 1.1/2 - 2 years now with bebo and myspace accounts, along with a website - and its still going, despite limited activity.

If we give it a go first off we could maybe purchase something further down the line which is more professional than a proboards one.

And another major thing is that things like revleft and P.ie come up among the first in a google search, while proboards are just spread by word of mouth. So a paid platform and address would help out there aswell.

[Sir Aunty Christ]

Another alternative would be to enquire about hosting it on RedApollo (http://blog.redapollo.org/) which is run by encephalon (he's the main guy I know that runs it, there may be others).

But yeah, I agree that using a paid platform would be useless at the minute because we don't know how successful this project will be and its success depends first and foremost on the traffic it gets and the amount of traffic it gets depends 1. on the dedication of the admins - because if the admins don't care why should anybody else and 2. on the form and content of what is being offered.

[Connolly]

Another alternative would be to enquire about hosting it on RedApollo which is run by encephalon (he's the main guy I know that runs it, there may be others).

Yeah that looks interesting, and it says ""Red Apollo provides webspace and support for leftist projects, whether it be a personal web page, a forum, blog, image database, etc.–as well as email (pop3 and webmail) for leftists in general"


depends first and foremost on the traffic it gets and the amount of traffic it gets depends 1. on the dedication of the admins - because if the admins don't care why should anybody else and 2. on the form and content of what is being offered.

Totally, couldnt disagree.