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Cooler Reds Will Prevail
3rd December 2006, 03:36
This should be kind of interesting. Of course as Leftists, we strongly disagree with the views of the bourgeois political system and the media, and Capitalists I'm sure disagree with Leftist political theory. I am interested to know from the Leftists, however, who is your favorite Capitalist politician/newsman? I don't really mean favorite, but some person that you believe actually has the right intentions, or who you think is overall fairly legit, or you think is a cool person... for a Capitalist. And the same thing from the Capitalists, who is one Leftist theorist/politician that you respect or think had the right intentions?

My choice would have to be Keith Olbermann (hosts Countdown on MSNBC)... Obviously he's a Capitalist and what not, but he destroys the neocons sooooooo bad I can't help but appreciate the guy.

which doctor
3rd December 2006, 03:39
My favorite capitalist is Mike Jones.

Pow R. Toc H.
3rd December 2006, 03:52
Bill O'Reily....chchchchch.....NOT!

I would probably have to say, as a leftist, that Bill Clinton is my favorite. Getting a blowjob from an intern gets him some serious "niiice" points as well.

theraven
3rd December 2006, 04:08
i gues my fav one of you guys would be stalin..his policeis sucked and he was a bad person, but he got what he wanted done.

BurnTheOliveTree
3rd December 2006, 09:13
Al Franken is my favourite capitalist. That's one funny man. :lol:

Does a good job of smashing Hannity, Coulter and O'Reilly aswell. Hehe, I think it was like, first or second chapter of one of his books was titled - Ann Coulter: Nutcase

Genius.

-Alex

Qwerty Dvorak
3rd December 2006, 14:49
Charles Haughey would be my favourite capitalist, although he didn't exactly do anything to further the field of capitalism. He was really just a statesman in a capitalist country, so I don't know if that counts.

Also, I would like to take this opportunity to dispel a popular myth: Ann Coulter is not attractive.

Sir_No_Sir
3rd December 2006, 15:16
Favorite Cappys gotta be your mom



P.S.:Ann Coulter is ugly.

RevolutionaryMarxist
3rd December 2006, 15:56
Favorite Capitalist/Reactionary - Bill O'Reily, he's a very funny man :P

Quote from a interview he did -

"Your just a rich white boy!" (Interviewed person)

"Ok thats all the time we have for today!" - Bill

Forward Union
3rd December 2006, 16:49
Fav cappie? Either Penn Jillete or Richard Dawkins for their progressive Atheism.

OneBrickOneVoice
3rd December 2006, 17:46
Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2006 03:39 am
My favorite capitalist is Mike Jones.
you mean this Mike Jones

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/9776/sqmikejoneshiphopgettyou0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

RedCommieBear
3rd December 2006, 17:49
I guess my favorite capitalist would have to be the satirical character of Stephen Colbert on the Colbert Report.


Originally posted by Stephen Colbert+--> (Stephen Colbert)I talked to Bay Buchanan, founder of the Political Action Commitee, to get immigrants out of America. Sounds like a hard job. We should find some immigrants to do that. [/b]


Stephen Colbert
Folks, the president needs a break. He's like a Black and Decker Cordless Dirt Devil vacuum. If you don't recharge his batteries, he can't suck!"

OneBrickOneVoice
3rd December 2006, 17:49
or this one:

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/4685/base2020coach20mike20jozc7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Intellectual47
3rd December 2006, 18:08
My favorite socialist would have to be.....Pol Pot. As the as the man who came the closest to attaining true socialism, he shows what happens the closer you get to it. And my source is the deaths of 3 million people (give or take a few hundred thousand).


P.S. my next favourite is Stalin. Only because he had an awesome 'stache

Qwerty Dvorak
3rd December 2006, 19:34
Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2006 06:08 pm
My favorite socialist would have to be.....Pol Pot. As the as the man who came the closest to attaining true socialism, he shows what happens the closer you get to it. And my source is the deaths of 3 million people (give or take a few hundred thousand).


P.S. my next favourite is Stalin. Only because he had an awesome 'stache
Where is your proof that he came the closest to achieving true socialism?

Connolly
3rd December 2006, 19:50
My favorite socialist would have to be.....Pol Pot. As the as the man who came the closest to attaining true socialism, he shows what happens the closer you get to it. And my source is the deaths of 3 million people (give or take a few hundred thousand).

In that case, my favourite anarchist is Hitler, since he came closest to achieving a society in which authority didnt exist and great equality for all members of society was widespread.

Also, Franco, for his humanitarian and anti-monarchist stance.

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*(my favourite capitalist would be.....erm, Henry Ford, for developing mass production techniques for automobiles)

Jazzratt
3rd December 2006, 20:00
Originally posted by The [email protected] 03, 2006 07:50 pm
(my favourite capitalist would be.....erm, Henry Ford, for developing mass production techniques for automobiles)
Henry didn't do shit. He got engineers to do it for him.

My favourite cappie is Richard Dawkins.

Intellectual47
3rd December 2006, 20:15
My favourite cappie is the Abraham Lincoln, Patton, and JFK combined. Ronald Reagan.

Jazzratt
3rd December 2006, 20:17
Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2006 08:15 pm
My favourite cappie is the Abraham Lincoln, Patton, and JFK combined. Ronald Reagan.
Figures. The one person in the world worse than Thatcher the milk snatcher.

Thank fuck he became worm food.

Intellectual47
3rd December 2006, 20:45
I feel quite insulted at that remark. Ronald Reagan saved millions of people from the tyranny of the Soviet union and came up with a system of econmics.

P.S. If you want to insult Reagan further, make a thread about it.

Enragé
3rd December 2006, 20:48
hmm

well i like most dead capitalists cuz they're....dead.

Jazzratt
3rd December 2006, 20:57
Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2006 08:45 pm
I feel quite insulted at that remark.
Well I wasn't making it to compliment you.


Ronald Reagan saved millions of people from the tyranny of the Soviet union He also busted unions and forced millions into poverty in his authoritarian regime.
and came up with a system of econmics. Which sucked.


P.S. If you want to insult Reagan further, make a thread about it. I'll just use this one thanks, if it seems to be too off topic I'm sure a mod will split it.

Sir_No_Sir
3rd December 2006, 21:03
Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2006 08:45 pm
I feel quite insulted at that remark. Ronald Reagan saved millions of people from the tyranny of the Soviet union and came up with a system of econmics.

P.S. If you want to insult Reagan further, make a thread about it.
No he didnt. He came up with a bullshit economic philosophy, not a system. The system was ALWAYS capitalism, he just decided to make it worse.

Intellectual47
3rd December 2006, 21:10
Ronald Reagan saved millions of people from the tyranny of the Soviet union He also busted unions and forced millions into poverty in his authoritarian regime.
Like who? could you provide me with an example

P.S. for some reason I always see Jazzratt as being about 12- years old given the maturity of his comments

Jazzratt
3rd December 2006, 21:12
Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2006 09:10 pm


Ronald Reagan saved millions of people from the tyranny of the Soviet union He also busted unions and forced millions into poverty in his authoritarian regime.
Like who? could you provide me with an example
You know all the poor people in your country over the age of about 40? They're his fault.


P.S. for some reason I always see Jazzratt as being about 12 given the maturity of his comments How long did that take you to think up?

Intellectual47
3rd December 2006, 21:25
So everyone over 40 who's poor is poor because of Reagan :huh: That arguement makes no sense at all, as there are many reasons for being in poverty besides Reagan.

It took me about as long as it took me to read some of your posts. You could stop cursing and use logical arguements. Than I would respet you more.

Jazzratt
3rd December 2006, 21:45
Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2006 09:25 pm
So everyone over 40 who's poor is poor because of Reagan :huh: That arguement makes no sense at all, as there are many reasons for being in poverty besides Reagan.
Yes it is something of an oversimplication, but his economic policies did a lot to harm the working class, whilst his policy on unions definatley prevented any real opposition to this.


It took me about as long as it took me to read some of your posts. You could stop cursing and use logical arguements. Than I would respet you more. How cute, you think that cursing precludes intellect. It's also very touching that you're under the impression I could give a monkey's whether or not you "respect" me.

Cryotank Screams
3rd December 2006, 22:42
STEPHEN COLBERT! HAIL THE COLBERT NATION!

http://bestof.provocateuse.com/images/photos/stephen_colbert_99.jpg

colonelguppy
4th December 2006, 00:32
Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2006 10:39 pm
My favorite capitalist is Mike Jones.
win

mine is george orwell

colonelguppy
4th December 2006, 00:38
Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2006 03:17 pm
Thatcher the milk snatcher.


haha you couldn't be more stereotypical

colonelguppy
4th December 2006, 00:41
Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2006 03:45 pm
and came up with a system of econmics.
a bad system, enless you think that relentless debt spending is somehow a good thing.

theraven
4th December 2006, 00:54
Originally posted by Jazzratt+December 03, 2006 09:45 pm--> (Jazzratt @ December 03, 2006 09:45 pm)
[email protected] 03, 2006 09:25 pm
So everyone over 40 who's poor is poor because of Reagan :huh: That arguement makes no sense at all, as there are many reasons for being in poverty besides Reagan.
Yes it is something of an oversimplication, but his economic policies did a lot to harm the working class, whilst his policy on unions definatley prevented any real opposition to this.


It took me about as long as it took me to read some of your posts. You could stop cursing and use logical arguements. Than I would respet you more. How cute, you think that cursing precludes intellect. It's also very touching that you're under the impression I could give a monkey's whether or not you "respect" me. [/b]
1) Reagans system at the time worked quite well, he and bush the elder can both claim good credit for the tech boom in he 90's

2) unions suck

3) intelectual- you will learn fast the average age of a poster here is about 16, mostly with daddy issues.

bezdomni
4th December 2006, 01:10
2) unions suck
Yep, organizing for worker's rights is a real pain in the ass. I'd rather work 16 hours a day, live in a slum and starve.

You're a moron.

Joby
4th December 2006, 03:44
For studying? The Fuehrer. Can't get more interesting than that.

Personal favorite is...Al Capone


and...UNIONS SUCK!?!?!

GET LOST you College Intelectual Holier-than-thou Never worked a day Piece of trash.

colonelguppy
4th December 2006, 06:00
1) Reagans system at the time worked quite well, he and bush the elder can both claim good credit for the tech boom in he 90's

actually it led further defecit spending, which actually resembles a keynesian model more than anyhting (shitty in other words). the tech boom was mostly a result of subsidation and credit exapnsion on the part of the federal reserve, and not much to be proud of. its easy to create a boom, the key is keeping it, and artifical manipulating the money supply isn't going to give you a healthy economy in the long run.


2) unions suck

depends on the situation. in developing economies, they good for building the middle class and human capital within a population, in a pot-industrial society they just tend to make domestic produciton uncompetitive and unproductive (see europe and the US to some extent).


Yep, organizing for worker's rights is a real pain in the ass. I'd rather work 16 hours a day, live in a slum and starve.

You're a moron.

most people in industrialized countries aren't in unions and they don't have to deal with those circumstances.

theraven
4th December 2006, 06:59
depends on the situation. in developing economies, they good for building the middle class and human capital within a population, in a pot-industrial society they just tend to make domestic produciton uncompetitive and unproductive (see europe and the US to some extent).

I know but look at what reactiosn it got :lol:



and...UNIONS SUCK!?!?!

GET LOST you College Intelectual Holier-than-thou Never worked a day Piece of trash.

lmao considierng 90% of the peole on here are college/hs wannabe intelectuals its not really an insult...



Yep, organizing for worker's rights is a real pain in the ass. I'd rather work 16 hours a day, live in a slum and starve.

You're a moron.

not in the USA...

colonelguppy
4th December 2006, 07:25
yeah i think i'm just going to argue against unions completely just to see where this thread goes.

unions lower class conciesness :ph34r:

Zero
4th December 2006, 07:57
Originally posted by "Intellectual47"+--> ("Intellectual47")Then I would respect you more.[/b]


Originally posted by "Intellectual47"@
My favorite cappie is the Abraham Lincoln, Patton, and JFK combined. Ronald Reagan.

Ignoring your spelling mistakes, and disregard of the topic intention's; you combine three completely different people together to create one who has nothing to do with the previous three, other than they all support and fought for a similar system of economics.

As you are the one who is attempting to solidify a moronic belief, inflaming the personality of a mass murderer, and regurgitating fifty years of sheep-like dogma spat out at the general public without doing any significant research yourself; it isn't the responsibility of Jazzratt to prove to you his age (as if it had anything to do with the topic at all.) It should be your responsibility to prove to everyone else that you even deserve to be here.

And you talk about logical arguments...

Mine would probably be Jack Black, Lewis Black, or Stephan Colbert, or maybe Marilyn Manson (Though I suppose he is more of a Soc-Dem...) I have quite a few Apolitical favorites, but I suppose they wouldn't count so much.


"colonelguppy"
unions lower class conciesnessClass Consciousness implies that you understand where you are in the social world. I'm sure everyone on the Earth today has looked up at the Bourgeois "officials" pissing down on them, and observed the difference between their meals and the silver plate of the official. So I figure everyone has a bit of class consciousness. However not everyone acts upon this knowledge. Some for good reason, such as shit-jobs at Wal*Mart. Everyone knows they have a huge record of anti-unionism, and if they even think twice about forming a union, they will get fired on the spot. Theres a reason they have more people in uniform than the United States military.

Therefore, if you are in a position to form/join a union, you are aware of your position in the coercive hierarchy that comes with employment in these massive conglomerates. But not only that you are willing to take risks to make yourself better off.

Though not all Unions have a long track-record of doing what is best for the Proletariat; quite a few Bourgeois unions fight for nothing else but to obtain money, rather than represent the interests of the have-nots.

colonelguppy
4th December 2006, 16:26
i was really just kidding, class conceisness is a joke.

Intellectual47
4th December 2006, 17:46
Originally posted by [email protected] 04, 2006 12:32 am
mine is george orwell
Orwell was a anti-authoritarian socialist, not a capitalist.

colonelguppy
4th December 2006, 18:46
Originally posted by Intellectual47+December 04, 2006 12:46 pm--> (Intellectual47 @ December 04, 2006 12:46 pm)
[email protected] 04, 2006 12:32 am
mine is george orwell
Orwell was a anti-authoritarian socialist, not a capitalist. [/b]
um yeah i'm a capitalist, read between the lines a little.

Sugar Hill Kevis
4th December 2006, 18:57
my favourite cappie is Intellectual47, purely for the pretention and ostentatiousness that saturate every one of his posts...

Zero
4th December 2006, 22:53
@ Intellectual47:

Originally posted by "Title of topic"+--> ("Title of topic")Capitalists... Who's Your Favorite Leftist?, Leftists... Who's Your Favorite Cappie?[/b]


"I chicorazon I"
This should be kind of interesting. Of course as Leftists, we strongly disagree with the views of the bourgeois political system and the media, and Capitalists I'm sure disagree with Leftist political theory. I am interested to know from the Leftists, however, who is your favorite Capitalist politician/newsman? I don't really mean favorite, but some person that you believe actually has the right intentions, or who you think is overall fairly legit, or you think is a cool person... for a Capitalist. And the same thing from the Capitalists, who is one Leftist theorist/politician that you respect or think had the right intentions?

Zero
4th December 2006, 22:57
Originally posted by [email protected] 04, 2006 04:26 pm
i was really just kidding, class conceisness is a joke.
How is it "a joke" to have an idea where you are in the coercive social hierarchy that comes with general labor?

Everyone is class-conscious to some extent or another. To say that it is a joke to understand wether or not you are at a place in a business where you have upward mobility kind of assumes that you don't understand reality.

Ultra-Violence
4th December 2006, 23:28
lmao considierng 90% of the peole on here are college/hs wannabe intelectuals its not really an insult...

As a matter of fact im 17 im working and going to highschool not even planning about going to colledge....so dont generalize this board cuase lots of us kids coming from working class famileis my MOM AnD PEp are in Unions and so what!

FUCK REAGAN BIGGEST AS HOLE IN THE WORLD!

REMEMBER THE CONTRAS?
WHAT ABOUT THE DRUG MONEY?
El SALVADOARIAN CIVIL WAR?

not so great now huh.....



:hammer:

Intellectual47
4th December 2006, 23:33
And somehow dealing the death blow to the USSR and setting the stage for the freedom of millions of people wasn't enough for you? Hmmm. ;) I thought you guys agreed that the USSR got socialism wrong and was screwing it up for everyone else? :huh:

Maybe if you just listened to country music you would be less wrong. You can start right here (http://CMT.com). I would reccomend the 8th of novemeber by Big and Rich. If you think about it, country is the voice of the proleterliat. Most country singers grew up poor. Ya'll should enjoy it.

Zero
5th December 2006, 02:32
Originally posted by "Intellectual47"+--> ("Intellectual47")And somehow dealing the death blow to the USSR[/b]
What dealt the "death blow" to the USSR was Gorbachev and the Council of Three disbanding it.

When you have a revolutionary government, and one man screws it to hell and gone, you don't just give up on the experiment. You continue on, make amends, and attempt the same problem from a different angle.


Originally posted by "Intellectual47"+--> ("Intellectual47")[...] and setting the stage for the freedom of millions of people wasn't enough for you? Hmmm.[/b]What do you define as "freedom" huh? "Freedom" to elect tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum to respect the interests of large corporations and businesses? The "freedom" to throw money at becoming a petty-bourgeois? The "freedom" to loose your job to a rapidly inflating economy?

I'm no Stalinist, but I sure as fuck am not a Capitalist.


"Intellectual47"@
I thought you guys agreed that the USSR got socialism wrong and was screwing it up for everyone else?For the most part, yeah.

However, a country cannot "get" Socialism wrong. A man can mess Socialism up; of course, but the physical country did nothing wrong. Lines drawn in the dirt and snow mean little when talking about Economic distribution. That is what Stalin did. He and the rest of the authoritarian figures took the USSR by storm. Blaming the USSR is a farce, blame Stalin.

Though I am no fanatic of Marxist-Leninism. Holodomor, Kronstadt, Tambov...


"Intellectual47"
Maybe if you just listened to country music you would be less wrong. You can start right here. I would recommend the 8th of November by Big and Rich. If you think about it, country is the voice of the proletariat. Most country singers grew up poor. Y'all should enjoy it.Just because music is made by Proletariat means little. For instance; I hate Primus. Primus can stop creating music, and I wouldn't shed a tear. Primus is a group of musicians that made songs like the South Park theme, or that one song about a highway. I hate the way they sing. I hate their style of synthing to slap guitar. They are also Proletariats, who create music for a living, and go on tour. I'm sure they also have jobs on the side.

Comrade Corinna
5th December 2006, 02:58
My favorite Capitalist is Ann Coulter. She's hilarious :lol:

Ultra-Violence
5th December 2006, 03:41
And somehow dealing the death blow to the USSR and setting the stage for the freedom of millions of people wasn't enough for you? Hmmm. I thought you guys agreed that the USSR got socialism wrong and was screwing it up for everyone else?


Who the hell in the there right mind here is Defending th U.S.S.R Fuck them too
and lenin and fucking stalin


Maybe if you just listened to country music you would be less wrong. You can start right here. I would reccomend the 8th of novemeber by Big and Rich. If you think about it, country is the voice of the proleterliat. Most country singers grew up poor. Ya'll should enjoy it

2 words for you WOODY GUTHRIE!

which doctor
5th December 2006, 03:56
Originally posted by LeftyHenry+December 03, 2006 12:46 pm--> (LeftyHenry @ December 03, 2006 12:46 pm)
[email protected] 03, 2006 03:39 am
My favorite capitalist is Mike Jones.
you mean this Mike Jones

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/9776/sqmikejoneshiphopgettyou0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) [/b]
Yeah, that's the one. :wub:

RebelDog
5th December 2006, 04:25
My favourite capitalist/reactionary is Alan Partridge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Partridge

Nusocialist
5th December 2006, 05:08
My favourite cappie has got to be John.M.Keynes,he was genius. He understood capitalism as few capitalists ever have.

My favorite socialist would have to be.....Pol Pot. As the as the man who came the closest to attaining true socialism, he shows what happens the closer you get to it. And my source is the deaths of 3 million people (give or take a few hundred thousand).
Yeah Hitler is also one of my favourite cappies,killing millions ain't that what capitalism is really about?

Zero
5th December 2006, 09:00
Originally posted by "Ultra_Violence"
Who the hell in the there right mind here is Defending th U.S.S.RYou'd be surprised... I believe from the last poll the board is split down the middle between authoritarian Marxists (M-L, M-L-S, M-L-M, and the like) and Libertarian Marxists (Autonomous Marxism, Council Communism, Anarcho-Communism, Libertarian Socialism, etc)

Though I suppose this is liable to change.

LuXe
5th December 2006, 14:42
Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2006 03:16 pm
Favorite Cappys gotta be your mom



P.S.:Ann Coulter is ugly.
http://www.rawilson.com/images/coulter.jpg

I know "her" secret.

An archist
5th December 2006, 20:52
too bad, he's banned now

or just restricted?

Capitalist Lawyer
6th December 2006, 00:15
My favorite leftist?

Redstar2000.

If he's still in the hospital, send him my best wishes. I hope he gets well soon.

RebelDog
6th December 2006, 01:05
Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 06, 2006 12:15 am
My favorite leftist?

Redstar2000.

If he's still in the hospital, send him my best wishes. I hope he gets well soon.
Thats a very nice thing to say. I hope he recovers swiflty too. :)

Capitalist Lawyer
7th December 2006, 01:34
The board hasn't been the same without him, which explains why I don't venture here often. I miss the discussions I have had with him.

Anybody know his status?

RebelDog
7th December 2006, 04:44
We await an update on his situation. Lets hope its positive.

Capitalist Lawyer
11th December 2006, 20:41
Can anybody answer this question?

t_wolves_fan
11th December 2006, 20:47
Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 11, 2006 08:41 pm
Can anybody answer this question?
I don't have a favorite leftist...I can't think of a famous one I like and all the ones who are friends and family I like either for other reasons or because I have to.

Pawn Power
11th December 2006, 22:53
http://english.alarabonline.org/data/2006/10/10-20/zbusinessz/981p.jpg

marxist troglodytes
11th December 2006, 23:57
Notice that when leftists have to name some "capitalists" they find tolerable they name other leftists
Keith Olbermann, Bill Clinton, and Al Franken are political correctness cadres toting the party line.
The aforementioned are only "capitalist'' in the same vein that Fidel Castro answered "no" when asked by a journalist if he was a communist before Castro seized absolute power and turned Cuba into a communist gulag.

marxist troglodytes
12th December 2006, 00:47
Originally posted by [email protected] 07, 2006 05:51 am
My favorite Cappie is this christian neo-con girl back in my hometown. Beating her in arguments is kind of like armwrestling with a three year old, especially because she brings religion into politics.

As far as famous cappies go, Bill Maher is pretty entertaining. Michael Moore is also entertaining.


My Uncle is from El Salvador; He lived through the the civil war and the deathsquads. Ask him what HE thinks about Reagan.
Sure, leftists are so rabid and lacking in lucidity that they believe every single ''argument'' they engage in is a "victory" for them.
But history hasn't been kind to the leftist argument as every single leftist experiment is a festering sore on the face of humanity.
Leftists are still rationalizing, excusing, and crying over the loss of their Soviet Union.
(sure sure sure, now the leftist excuse is that the communist Soviet Union wasnt really communist at all,,,excuses excuses excuses...)

Bill Maher is a leftist hack. Bill Maher's ramblings would find NO incongruence with communist demagoguery. Bill Maher hates free market economies ("capitalism") as much as North Korean communists do.
But Maher is less honest than the North Korean communists.

If your uncle is from El Salvador and hates Regan, then your uncle is either profoundly ignorant or a committed leftist.
If it wasnt for Reagan , El Salvador and Nicaragua would be even more infested with communists.
Leftists hate Reagan because Reagan bankrupted the left's cherished Soviet Union and dared to help the people of Central America liberate themselves from the death grip of communist despots.

Zero
12th December 2006, 01:31
Originally posted by "marxist troglodytes"+--> ("marxist troglodytes")Sure, leftists are so rabid and lacking in lucidity that they believe every single ''argument'' they engage in is a "victory" for them.[/b]Well, if someone wins the arguement, _generally_ they win the arguement. Sometimes people loose, and sometimes people win, it's the same for both sides. Complaining about it won't make you win.


Originally posted by "marxist troglodyes"+--> ("marxist troglodyes")But history hasn't been kind to the leftist argument as every single leftist experiment is a festering sore on the face of humanity.[/b]Way to make broad sweeping statements without examining background influences. For the most part left-leaning people have rejected the ideas of past left leaders because of deviation from theory, or new information/theory based on their exparament. It's true that there are those who lead, and call themselves part of the left; but Despotic dictatorships are part of 'Rightist' theory.

("marxist troglodytes")Leftists are still rationalizing, excusing, and crying over the loss of their Soviet Union.[/b][/quote]Hmm... I don't understand why I am "rationalizing, excusing, and crying" over the Soviet Union when I dismiss Marxist-Leninism as a deviation from Marxist principles. There are some who do appreciate the Soviet Union, and some who don't. There are some who agree with Stalinism, Trotskyism, Leninism, or some sort of Bolshivism in general, and there are those who don't. Please don't make sweeping judgements about things you don't understand.

("marxist troglodytes")Bill Maher is a leftist hack.[/b][/quote]Bill Maher is a Liberal Democrat. Liberalism is Left-Of-Center at the most. Therefore he would be a "Centerist hack." In your terminology.

("marxist troglodytes")Bill Maher's ramblings would find NO incongruence with communist demagoguery[/b][/quote]Except, you know, those small things like economic systems, election systems, terminology, internationalism vs nationalism, cooperation vs Capitalism, Democracy vs. Dictatorship of the Bourgeois, and almost all of Communist theory.

Other than that, Democrats and Communists are the same thing</sarcasm>

("marxist troglodytes")Bill Maher hates free market economies ("capitalism") as much as North Korean communists do.[/b][/quote]Proof? Or are you just going to toss labels out without any supporting evidence.

("marxist troglodytes")But Maher is less honest than the North Korean communists.[/b][/quote]You really have no idea what your talking about, do you?

("marxist troglodytes")If your uncle is from El Salvador and hates Regan, then your uncle is either profoundly ignorant or a committed leftist.[/b][/quote]Uhh... If thousands of trained gurillas were smuggled into America; razed towns, killed thousands of people, tore appart families, and fixed elections, would you be just a bit pissed off? Or are you going to keep playing the &#39;Horrible evil commies&#33;&#39; card like the rest of you answering machines on the right.


"marxist troglodytes"@
If it wasnt for Reagan , El Salvador and Nicaragua would be even more infested with communists.
We invade Nicaragua 7 times in the past 40 years, fix elections, murder, evict, and kidnap thousands of suspected "terrorists" (Who, by the way, have popular support) and you support that? Unilatteral interventionism, and pre-emptive military usages are simply euphemisms for fucking people in the ass wether or not they want it or not.


"marxist troglodytes"
Leftists hate Reagan because Reagan bankrupted the left&#39;s cherished Soviet Union and dared to help the people of Central America liberate themselves from the death grip of communist despots.I&#39;m not going to even touch this. You and your mass murderer can keep re-inforcing your deranged view of pre-emptive mass murder as "helping" the people you are killing, but we&#39;re going to keep working in the really real world.

If you keep up posts like that your going to get banned for trolling. You aren&#39;t giving any supportive arguements, and using broad slanders against (apparently) things you know nothing about. Learn something from Publis, from t_wolves, they can debate without the name-calling just fine. It&#39;s a good skill to learn know when you go out into the real world.

La Comédie Noire
12th December 2006, 02:52
Ben Stein. I mean the man has two jobs that involve lying, acting and capitalist economics.

cubist
12th December 2006, 12:51
my favourite cappie is santa

that thieving red suited elf controlling bastard

Demogorgon
12th December 2006, 14:01
Pierre Treadeau and Willy Brandt both had style even if their policies weren&#39;t in line wit what I believe. And Olfa palme was a good leader.

Other than that J.K. Galbraith. I now he was not even slightly right wing but he did support capitalism to a point, so he qualifies.

mikelepore
15th December 2006, 09:27
It has to be Hugh M. Hefner.

Rollo
15th December 2006, 10:12
My favourite cappie is JFK. Because someone shot him. In the head.

Intellectual47
15th December 2006, 17:44
Then my favourite socialist is Trotsky, he got hit with an ice-pick.

Rollo
15th December 2006, 17:50
Wrong&#33;

You&#39;re ment to say

"lenin, he went bald, had 3 strokes and now lives in a plastic jar "

Intellectual47
15th December 2006, 17:53
lenin, he went bald, had 3 strokes and now lives in a plastic jar "
Him too.

Did you know Uncle Ho lives in a glass case?

RedCeltic
15th December 2006, 18:03
My favorite capitalist? Hmmm... Ted Kennedy I suppose.

Bright Banana Beard
16th December 2006, 16:08
My favorite cappies is Bill O&#39;reiley.

Capitalist Lawyer
16th December 2006, 19:13
Actually, I was referring to Redstar2000 in my last reply on this thread.

There&#39;s no way he can be out this long and not make an appearance on the board.

Seriously, is he ok? Or did he pass away?

Fawkes
1st March 2007, 03:21
I don&#39;t really want to resurrect an old thread but I&#39;ll do it anyway. RS2K&#39;s current condition is (as far as I know) unknown by us, but if you are wondering what happened to him, he suffered a stroke back in the Summer.

Oh yeah, my favorite cappie is probably my dad.

Marsella
1st March 2007, 03:32
Capitalist: Warren Buffet

Communist: Prob. Rosa Luxemburg

krakatoan
1st March 2007, 06:48
Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2006 12:51 pm
my favourite cappie is santa

that thieving red suited elf controlling bastard
santa is obviously a communist:
1. he is dressed all up in red
2. he has a beard like karl marx

EwokUtopia
1st March 2007, 07:54
Favourite Capitalist?


King George III, he tried to make you silly Americans pay for your damn tea, and he went nuts, whats not to love about this guy?

I mean, pay the extra dollar for the barrel of tea, dont throw a hissy fit and create some crappy nation over it. If you dont want to pay that much, why not grow your own tea, or switch to some other drink? This is the problem with Capitalist revolutions, their allways based on some stupid hissy fit. Tea Tax this, Tennis Court that....

You do know your founding fathers were all drunk off their asses, right? "Hey, lets go dress up like Indians, sneak onto a boat, and throw some shit overboard&#33; Fuck Yeah&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; We&#39;re gonn be national motherfucking heroes&#33;"

King George III was pretty damn cool.

Oh yeah, and the wigs are totally sexy.

LebaneseCommunistParty
1st March 2007, 21:17
Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2006 08:45 pm
I feel quite insulted at that remark. Ronald Reagan saved millions of people from the tyranny of the Soviet union and came up with a system of econmics.

P.S. If you want to insult Reagan further, make a thread about it.
Reagan&#39;s economics was capitalism at its worst. he supported economic growth with no development meaning, it doesnt matter how bad our output is for society, as long as we create more of it, we&#39;re doing just fine&#33; hahahahaha&#33; gdp growth no matter what cost&#33;

EwokUtopia
2nd March 2007, 20:17
Originally posted by LebaneseCommunistParty+March 01, 2007 09:17 pm--> (LebaneseCommunistParty @ March 01, 2007 09:17 pm)
[email protected] 03, 2006 08:45 pm
Ronald Reagan saved millions of people from the tyranny of the Soviet union.
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Man that was a crazy time, I remember when He flew over to Moscow and Personally destroyed the entire Red Army through the power of Prayer. When those lightening bolts struck all the statues of Lenin, I knew that this man was the messiah. And what a fine actor at that. I mean, he single-handedly vanquished the worlds greatest Superpower, just him and his dinky little bible, what a man&#33;




Reagan didnt crush the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union was collapsing before it ever began. The Russian Empire was very sandy ground to build a socialist republic on, and the Soviet Union probably stalled the collapse of Russia by at least a few decades. Besides, just look at the current situation over there and youll realize that Russia isnt finished Collapsing. Now, you can continue to delude yourself thinking that Reagan won the Cold war, or that America beat the Nazi&#39;s, or that 9/11 was the single most tragic event in human history, or that Saddam actuallly did have WMD&#39;s and was going to kill all Americans because hes like that, or that racism is a thing of the past in America, or that you arent responsible for the 10 million annual starvation deaths, or that America is a beacon of freedom to the entire world, or that you are an actual democracy, or that........well, I could go on, but I think you get the drift.

Rasta Sapian
2nd March 2007, 22:12
My favorite Communist would be Mao, I have a cool t shirt of his face, i got it in China but i don&#39;t know what the word means on it. :huh:

My favorite Capitalist would have to be Andrew Carnegie this is a link to some info on him: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carnegie/peop...ts/pande04.html (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carnegie/peopleevents/pande04.html)

p.s. Rasputin is my favorite historical figure plus he has a good theme song "Ra Ra Rasputin"

Bright Banana Beard
6th March 2007, 20:21
Originally posted by [email protected] 15, 2006 10:12 am
My favourite cappie is JFK. Because someone shot him. In the head.
rofl Rollo, so true

Roy Batty
10th March 2007, 23:29
Of all the lefties, my favorite&#39;s probably Pol Pot. As a good communist he truly managed to equalize the classes, cleansing the nation of , intellectuals, professionals, counterrevolutionaries, imperialist, Christians, Muslims, Budhists...and other city folk to lazy to pick up a hoe. He employed and forged the masses into the true collective proletariat. The New People&#33;

Amen.

Freedom?
11th March 2007, 07:55
Bill Gates. He got rich with a bowl cut.