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Raisa
2nd December 2006, 08:45
Capitalists and people who got it allright that are cool with capitalism
Yall are all some motherfuckers.

Cause I thought about this alittle and,
While your mother may have pushed you out..... the people MADE you.
ANd yall dont show us any gratitude.
Instead you make votes and endorse things and say words against your true mother.
It aint even like this is making love here....
What kind of a devil fucks his own mother?!
Youre all motherfuckers!

We made you everything you are and are able to be, and you are cool with a world that the majority of its people having nothing to aspire to but aids jail violence and children for the state.
When I call you a motherfucker, I dont mean it hte same way I call it to a person who looks like you..... I mean it with a real philosophy.

Think about this my fellow proliterians...these ungrateful little shits, we raised them.
We are their mother.

Sorry I wasnt around to make you a better human being cause I was WORKING for the betterment of your future you ungrateful little shit.

Please stop putting you own mothers and fathers in jail and making us have to fight to live in the world we created for you.

Intellectual47
2nd December 2006, 13:18
Just a question here. Why are the people in support of socialism able to say whatever they want about my mother and get away with it; whereas If I say someones ideas are "stupid" my thread gets censored?

Raisa uses exactly 6 curse words here. I used none. Ever.

P.S. Sorry for hijacking your thread Raisa

BurnTheOliveTree
2nd December 2006, 13:21
I don't really see where your going with this Raisa. :huh:

-Alex

Pirate Utopian
2nd December 2006, 13:24
i heart rants

Jazzratt
2nd December 2006, 16:30
Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2006 01:18 pm
Just a question here. Why are the people in support of socialism able to say whatever they want about my mother
For a start, had you read the damned post - you would know it is a metaphor, the people are your "true" mother and you are all for exploiting (fucking) them.


If I say someones ideas are "stupid" my thread gets censored? How many times do we have to deal with people who are under the impression we are 'censoring' their boring fucking posts. Had you raised a new objection rather than the same ones we have to constantly deal with, despite having refuted them hundreds of times before.


Raisa uses exactly 6 curse words here. I used none. Ever. I suppose that makes you a fucking saint? I suppose that somewhow by not swearing you're a bloody genius? Also - you were anal enough to count? Do have no life at all?

Now, unless you feel like contributing to this board in some meaningful manner I suggest you bugger off.

Intellectual47
2nd December 2006, 16:35
Rather strange considering you didn't refute mine. If you had done this hundreds of time before wouldn't you have an excellent arguement that a capitalist couldn't say anything to?

If you have said arguement please post it on my new thread.

And my point was that the Mod was biased towards me, not that I was a saint.

Jazzratt
2nd December 2006, 16:47
Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2006 04:35 pm
Rather strange considering you didn't refute mine. If you had done this hundreds of time before wouldn't you have an excellent arguement that a capitalist couldn't say anything to?
A) i didn't even imply that I personally ever bother with these shitty arguments.

B) You can find the answers to your ****ish questions by reading back through this subforum and save the other board members the bother of having to type a response to you.


If you have said arguement please post it on my new thread. Because I only post in threads that have intellectual merit.


And my point was that the Mod was biased towards me, not that I was a saint. We simply don't punish swearing, if we did I would have been banned within weeks of my coming here.

P.S Your signature is fucking stupid and here is why:

It would not be "criminal" to be rich, it would be impossible. Once debt tokens are done away with there is no way for somone to amass more than somone else, thus making 'rich' a meaningless term. Also there is no system I know of that makes being smart criminal, except perhaps primitivism.

colonelguppy
2nd December 2006, 19:01
the "people" are not my mother, some guy working in a factory to make my coca cola that i had when i was 12 doesn't qualify himself to that status.

Cryotank Screams
2nd December 2006, 19:57
Raisa; With a little literary polish, this is actually not half bad.

Intellectual47
2nd December 2006, 20:24
Jazzratt, the Societ killed people for being rich and smart. You could easily be killed or deported for that. And if everyone says " i didn't even imply that I personally ever bother with these shitty arguments." than you guys would'nt do anything to defend yourselves.

And the defense of socialism isn't a worthy intellectual oppurtunity?

Oh and you can still have a surplus of goods even if there is no money or "debt tokens".


Oh Raisa, decent work, but Capitalism came before Socialism

ComradeR
4th December 2006, 11:49
(jumping into your argument here :D ) Intellectual47 if the soviets killed or deported people for being smart then how the hell were they ahead of the US in technology till the late sixties? And dont give me any of that bull that it was only because of the Nazi scientists and tech they captured (because wouldnt they have shot them for being smart? :o ) and besides the US did the same exact thing. Hell the only reason they got to the moon was thanks to Nazi scientists (who were paraded as heroes for this even though they were war criminals)

And as for defense of Socialism, all political systems spawn totalitarian states at first, they go through different stages as they evolve. Capitalism was no different look at the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, Capitalist states were totalitarian monarchies. In the case of the US it is a good example of the Capitalist system evolving, and Socialism will as well.

Intellectual47
4th December 2006, 14:06
Intellectual47 if the soviets killed or deported people for being smart then how the hell were they ahead of the US in technology till the late sixties? And dont give me any of that bull that it was only because of the Nazi scientists and tech they captured (because wouldnt they have shot them for being smart? )
Actually the Soviets were intellgent and realized that the Nazi tech they got could help them. They didn't get many Nazi scientists to shoot up. They were also ahead of us because after 50 years of Communism they had bred scientists who din't question the government. The reason they killed the smart people was because they would poke holes in their Socialistic theory. Therefore they had to raise scientists who wouldn't criticize the government.

Hell the only reason they got to the moon was thanks to Nazi scientists (who were paraded as heroes for this even though they were war criminals)
Actually all Werner Van Braun did was make rockets. He wouldn't be a war criminal. While it was the Nazi's who helped us get to the moon, the Soviets never again passed us in technology. Even after the Nazi scientists had died.

And as for defense of Socialism, all political systems spawn totalitarian states at first, they go through different stages as they evolve. Capitalism was no different look at the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, Capitalist states were totalitarian monarchies. In the case of the US it is a good example of the Capitalist system evolving, and Socialism will as well.
While I do agree with the evolving of systems, your point does have a flaw. Why should we abandon the system that has finally gotten past the totalitarian state (capitalism) and spend more lives and time trying to perfect another one?
That's like firing your best boxer so you can raise another to his posistion.

Intellectual47
4th December 2006, 17:44
It appears we have something in common.

It would also appear that they are incapable of refuting my points with logic.

Qwerty Dvorak
4th December 2006, 17:47
I find this rant interesting and amusing, if somewhat vainglorious.

Still though, viva Raisa

Raisa
5th December 2006, 07:08
"Why are the people in support of socialism able to say whatever they want about my mother"

You a intellectual you should realise, this site is about the emancipation of the PEOPLE! And the people make you what you are. ...you and your mother too.

"Raisa uses exactly 6 curse words here. I used none. Ever."

You are -damn -ass- mothefucking -dick -shit -right.....because opression is something to curse about.


"Raisa; With a little literary polish, this is actually not half bad. "

I guess I can accept that bourgeois elitist statement as a compliment in a way. Thank you.

"Oh Raisa, decent work, but Capitalism came before Socialism"

Oh and who ever the hell you are......The FREE people came before the ENSLAVED people.
The GARDEN came BEFORE the PLANTATION.
And we were originally made free.

ComradeR
5th December 2006, 12:18
While I do agree with the evolving of systems, your point does have a flaw. Why should we abandon the system that has finally gotten past the totalitarian state (capitalism) and spend more lives and time trying to perfect another one?

Because of the nature of capitalism is that one must be exploited for another to live comfortably, where as the nature of socialism is that "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his need" basicly socialism strives for equality as capitalism does not.

kifl
9th December 2006, 17:34
shes fucking right

Cryotank Screams
9th December 2006, 17:44
I guess I can accept that bourgeois elitist statement as a compliment in a way. Thank you.

Bourgeoisie elitist? How is me saying with a little work, and revamping this could turn into a pretty good essay being bourgeoisie elitist? I give you a compliment, and I get insulted? Fuck you.

*Note to self; never give Raisa another compliment, <_< .

La Comédie Noire
9th December 2006, 18:01
Excellent social commentary in a unique form. Bravo&#33; :)

Alexander Hamilton
9th December 2006, 20:36
THANK YOU RAISA&#33;&#33;&#33;

You&#39;ve "broken it down for me, again".

What was I thinking, believing that, as a "capitalist" (with all of &#036;400 in the bank), was simply living my life when I was ACTUALLY fucking my mother.

Yes, it&#39;s all clear to me now.

The irony about all of this is that people get paid big bucks to go on the news shows and, after studying a subject for years, pontificate to no end about a "reasonable, inclusive solution" to world problems, AND YOU&#39;RE JUST GIVING IT AWAY FOR FREE.

I didn&#39;t even have to take you to dinner, or tell you you have a special look in your eyes, that I respect you. You just gave it all away&#33;

Man&#33; What a morning&#33;

First, that big win in Kentucky, and now this.

And you wrote that you only "thought about this a little" &#33;&#33;&#33;

Imagine what you might have discovered if you would have thought about this a lot&#33;

The board is once again humbled by the insight of a staunch Marxist.

All of this insight, AND you made me who I am today&#33;

And, yep, you found me out: I&#39;m running around sticking people in the St. Louis County Lock Up, insuring there is more violence, and wrecking the lives of the kiddies.

You think I would have learned better. Oh well, just being my usual ungreatful little self.

If you had to do it over again, I hope you would have wished you would have made me a better human being than working for the betterment of my future.

I sure learned my lesson here today...I hope you did, too.


A. Hamilton

t_wolves_fan
11th December 2006, 17:22
Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2006 08:45 am
Capitalists and people who got it allright that are cool with capitalism
Yall are all some motherfuckers.


Now this is comedy.

You didn&#39;t make me, so you are hereby invited to lose the sense of entitlement.

:lol:

Chris Hiv_E_
11th December 2006, 17:29
This should recieve an analogy of the year award.

t_wolves_fan
11th December 2006, 17:31
Originally posted by Chris [email protected] 11, 2006 05:29 pm
This should recieve an analogy of the year award.
If I had made the choice to start abusing drugs or drop out of college earlier in life instead of the choices I did make, could I blame the people?