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RebeldePorLaPAZ
30th November 2006, 14:36
I thought it would be nice if we all shared idea's of what type of revolutionary work we push on a day to day schedule. We all talk about revolution and revolutionary thought, theory, and so forth but what it comes down to is this is just a lot of talk.

So who walks the walk?

Describe what it is like for you on a day to day basis or what kind of actions you carry out every week.

That way comrades who are stuck as "internet revolutionary's" can wake up and accually get active with ideas from other members who lead by examples.

So lets begin, what do we have?



--Paz

Forward Union
30th November 2006, 14:55
Well, daily action is inherently useless, if not planned and co-ordinated. Time should be spent discussing potential actions, and the logistics of them.

Unfortunately, I simply cannot admit many of the things I have been involved in. Or things I and our organisation are planning to do. Which I imagine will be the case for several activists here. Much of the more juicy, inspiring effective direct action is not really safe to discuss openly. Thats just the way it is

However, I have been involved in the occupation of a former "women's information centre". The occupation of an allotment, for production of food, an attempted take-over of a shopping centre. Benefit gigs and plenty of demos, some of which I helped organise. The production of newsletters and leaflets etc is important. I attend shit loads of national meetings - some outside of traditional leftist issues, to forge links with other struggles.

We, up until recently were preparing for local resistance in opposition to plans outlining the desire to build 7000 houses and several schools houses on known floodplane, though they withdrew the plans without any need for action. At the moment, some ideas are begin discussed around the organising of local Busdrivers, in response to privatisation, and stopping the council expand the civic centre, destroying the local market and Spanish civil-war monument.

I have also been involved in some of the recent anti-shell Rossport solidarity stuff, though I can't go too far into that either. :rolleyes:

Here's an example of an action we done that landed in the local paper a few weeks ago, I posted it in the cc, but as its on the papers website anyway, im not bothered about security.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6214/menewsxa7.gif

Whitten
30th November 2006, 15:03
If it makes a difference then its illegal, so I doubt you'll get too many detailed responses.

An archist
30th November 2006, 19:45
well, now that you mention it,(this was a fairly legal action) yesterday we went to a city where an extreme right-wing students organisation was planning to have a vikings night.
So we went there with about 22 antifas to protest outside the bar. After an hour and a half, the barkeeper tossed the boneheads outside and closed his bar :lol:

RebeldePorLaPAZ
2nd December 2006, 17:22
Originally posted by [email protected] 30, 2006 11:03 am
If it makes a difference then its illegal, so I doubt you'll get too many detailed responses.
What a juvenile response.

The purpose for this was to discuss ways we can all share and learn from what others are doing.

Let me give an example.

While in Hartford my weekly schedule went something like this. On the weekends I participated in pick up and delivery for Food Not Bombs, a very legal organization who has publicly shared their strategies and events. I also helped cook and set up, and clean up. The purpose of Food Not Bombs of course is to help the hungry. A very legal revolutionary action that anybody can do.

During Food Not Bombs we would hand out newspapers and publications from the FPM.

During last years winter for a whole three months straight I participated in a local FPM action that involved members to collect and distribute clothes and give to needy people every Saturday for free. Another legal action, giving clothes to the needy.

I participated in weekly FPM meetings that took place every Tuesday to coordinate and plan out our actions. We also used to time to bring up new ideas and review our progress, accomplishments and failures. Very legal, hold group meetings to plan out actions.

While on my spare time I took the oportunity to drop off FPM newspapers at several locations that welcomed them. Usually once or twice a week.

I also took every Wednesday to participate in our city's local Indymedia which put out a newspaper, weekly radio, and hosted many events. Another idea, join an IMC.

When the FPM was coming under attack we held weekly rally's every Saturday that lasted for about a month. Another idea, hold a rally or protest.

So lets see now, these are simple and sweet ideas that anybody can do and I share them with you because maybe there are people who can add on and share their experiences or add an idea that wasn't covered. Let's be open minded and bring different skills to the table.

- Feed the hungry
- Hand out leftist literature
- Collect and distribute clothes to the needy
- Participate in meetings
- Volunteer to drop of papers
- Participate in IMC
- Hold or join in rally's/protests

and another one,

- Share your ideas with others

Who feels like adding on? Just because it is not illegal doesn't mean it can't make a difference.



--Paz

Hiero
2nd December 2006, 18:08
This is a very suspect thread.

RedLenin
2nd December 2006, 18:09
I have just recently gotten involved in activism, as there have been very few opportunities for me until now. At my school, I have been handing out Opt-Out forms on a fairly regular basis. I also talk to students about military recruitment, and I enjoy fucking with the recruiters a bit; asking incriminating questions and such. I also do a little direct action in an attempt to fuck them over. I distract the recruiters with questions while my friend takes all of their pamphlets and throws them away. Or the other way around.

Also, my friend and I are going to be printing an article critical of military recruitment and the schools attitute toward it in our school newspaper. We will also be printing a full-page cut-out Opt-Out form in the paper. :)

RebeldePorLaPAZ
2nd December 2006, 18:13
Here's an idea. Have you and your friends run for school elections to try to get popular support against military recruiters coming into the schools.

If your a student and don't have a car and can't do many things on your own outside of school, working within the school can be a good start as well as a way to gain experience with what you do.



--Paz

Whitten
2nd December 2006, 19:53
Originally posted by RebeldePorLaPAZ+December 02, 2006 05:22 pm--> (RebeldePorLaPAZ @ December 02, 2006 05:22 pm)
[email protected] 30, 2006 11:03 am
If it makes a difference then its illegal, so I doubt you'll get too many detailed responses.
What a juvenile response.

The purpose for this was to discuss ways we can all share and learn from what others are doing.

Let me give an example.

While in Hartford my weekly schedule went something like this. On the weekends I participated in pick up and delivery for Food Not Bombs, a very legal organization who has publicly shared their strategies and events. I also helped cook and set up, and clean up. The purpose of Food Not Bombs of course is to help the hungry. A very legal revolutionary action that anybody can do.

During Food Not Bombs we would hand out newspapers and publications from the FPM.

During last years winter for a whole three months straight I participated in a local FPM action that involved members to collect and distribute clothes and give to needy people every Saturday for free. Another legal action, giving clothes to the needy.

I participated in weekly FPM meetings that took place every Tuesday to coordinate and plan out our actions. We also used to time to bring up new ideas and review our progress, accomplishments and failures. Very legal, hold group meetings to plan out actions.

While on my spare time I took the oportunity to drop off FPM newspapers at several locations that welcomed them. Usually once or twice a week.

I also took every Wednesday to participate in our city's local Indymedia which put out a newspaper, weekly radio, and hosted many events. Another idea, join an IMC.

When the FPM was coming under attack we held weekly rally's every Saturday that lasted for about a month. Another idea, hold a rally or protest.

So lets see now, these are simple and sweet ideas that anybody can do and I share them with you because maybe there are people who can add on and share their experiences or add an idea that wasn't covered. Let's be open minded and bring different skills to the table.

- Feed the hungry
- Hand out leftist literature
- Collect and distribute clothes to the needy
- Participate in meetings
- Volunteer to drop of papers
- Participate in IMC
- Hold or join in rally's/protests

and another one,

- Share your ideas with others

Who feels like adding on? Just because it is not illegal doesn't mean it can't make a difference.



--Paz [/b]
Its not a juvenile response because its right. What you describe isnt an "action of revolution". No revolution is going to come from feeding the poor. I'm not sayig you shouldnt, or that its not worth it, but you cant try to pass it off as a revolutionary action.

lithium
2nd December 2006, 21:16
Originally posted by [email protected] 30, 2006 02:36 pm
So lets begin, what do we have?
From what I can see there aren't many visible revolutionary activities going on in Ireland (yet!) so I try to do things in other ways:

At the moment there's something of a rebellion in my university against the extreme profiteering of management companies in the uni - I'm pretty vocal in that and was the first to start a picket line. I try to support charities operating in Third World countries (gonna vaccinate 150 kids now - will post details in a new thread!) and spread information on such charities to dozens, if not sometimes hundreds of people. I also listen to people when they complain about governments and poverty and corruption and all; I then engage them in conversation explaining the basics of leftist politics/economics and show them that there is an alternative.

That's what I'm doing at the moment. I know it's not much but I think in general it spreads awareness and gets people to "think outside the box".

RebeldePorLaPAZ
3rd December 2006, 03:53
Its not a juvenile response because its right. What you describe isnt an "action of revolution". No revolution is going to come from feeding the poor. I'm not sayig you shouldnt, or that its not worth it, but you cant try to pass it off as a revolutionary action.

It seems you don't put the proletariat as one of your top priorities. When people are hungry and the government isn't doing anything to solve the problem and the people in turn take power into their own hands and work to solve the problems the government can't, I would call that pretty revolutionary.

It is an action, in which if you represent a group can add to a groups reputation of either a group that talks and doesn't act or a group who talks and acts to get things done. This can help to bring popular support to your cause and to your group so that larger and more successful actions can be accomplished through popular demand of the people.

So no you are not right.

If your idea of overthrowing capitalism begins in your basement by creating things that go 'boom' then you have a very wrong approach and popular support will not fall on your hands.

Any militant struggle cannot begin without the popular support of the people. So yes, your response was juvenile.



--Paz

Forward Union
3rd December 2006, 11:02
Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2006 09:16 pm
From what I can see there aren't many visible revolutionary activities going on in Ireland (yet!) so I try to do things in other ways:


Could you shout "Im an armchair socialist" any louder please? some people at the back didn't hear. Sorry to be a dick, but there is a lot of serious stuff going on in Ireland.

Check this stuff out and get involved mate!

http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/rsc/index.html

http://www.corribsos.com/

Hiero
3rd December 2006, 17:43
Its not a juvenile response because its right. What you describe isnt an "action of revolution". No revolution is going to come from feeding the poor. I'm not sayig you shouldnt, or that its not worth it, but you cant try to pass it off as a revolutionary action.

Revolutionary action is managed by legal and illegal acts, based on risk. For instance, in Cuba it was feasible to rob banks to fund their actions. In the first world countries, it would result in the destruction of Communist parties.

What you have to remember that alot of the things we do today, were once illegal. Such as having union meetings during work. In Australia a strike in the mines resulted in the use of army to destroy the strike. Also consider alot of the things that we do which are legal are still controversial and can draw attention of the law. The secret police agencies kept profiles of active members of leftist parties and militant unions, and we can asume they still do.

There have been recent changes in Australia, which have reduced the role unions have within the workplace. It can be illegal at times for union members to organise a meeting, strike, stop work for safety reason or even contact union officals while on site. If a meeting does occur, individuals face fines of up to $28 000, and unions face fines up to $100 000. For this to be enforced there is a special police force set up to investigate in union activity, including interrogations to find who plays a significant part in union activity. If a person who has been interrogated tells anyone about what was discussed they face fines of up $6000.

On that note I would advise all people to not be specific to the point of noting "Your daily or weekly actions of revolution". And I would be suspicious of anyone asking for such a thing. Don't do the work for the pigs, don't profile yourself on the internet.

lithium
3rd December 2006, 19:11
Originally posted by Love [email protected] 03, 2006 11:02 am
Check this stuff out and get involved mate!

http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/rsc/index.html

http://www.corribsos.com/
Yeah I know about the Shell campaign and I'm very much in support of it. The sooner disgusting cappies like those are done away with the better!

But for me, something more revolutionary would be to focus on creating more solidarity between the workers and showing the government that we can be a force not to be reckoned with, and working on removing capitalism from society.

But that's just me :D

Forward Union
3rd December 2006, 21:28
Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2006 05:43 pm
Revolutionary action is managed by legal and illegal acts, based on risk. For instance, in Cuba it was feasible to rob banks to fund their actions. In the first world countries, it would result in the destruction of Communist parties.

Absolutely, and furthermore, many actions are simply not useful to us. Bombing a military target would be counterproductive in today's political climate, but there will probably be a time when such action is necessary.

It's a matter of common sense.

However many acts of sabotage are incredibly illegal, and yet, at times can be tactically beneficial. For example, the sabotaging of military planes during the Iraq war, or the occupation of certain companies offices.

...or barricading a shell garage. :rolleyes: Unfortunately you get two extremes in our movement. A complete fear of ever doing anything illegal, and the complete obsession with breaking the law, even when such action is useless. As tacticians we should look at out immediate objective, and consider all usefull actions that will achieve that aim, and if it is illegal, it should probably be done.

Forward Union
3rd December 2006, 21:32
Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2006 07:11 pm
for me, something more revolutionary would be to focus on creating more solidarity between the workers and showing the government that we can be a force not to be reckoned with, and working on removing capitalism from society.

Absolutely, but if there is not an organisation or even a leftist tradition in your community, your duty is to make one.

If you need help, start a thread, and Id be more than willing to have a chat with you about your situation and help out in any way I can! I have plenty of contacts in Ireland, people that might want to help you out in person. Let me know.

Rawthentic
3rd December 2006, 22:59
Originally posted by lithium+December 02, 2006 01:16 pm--> (lithium @ December 02, 2006 01:16 pm)
[email protected] 30, 2006 02:36 pm
So lets begin, what do we have?
From what I can see there aren't many visible revolutionary activities going on in Ireland (yet!) so I try to do things in other ways:

At the moment there's something of a rebellion in my university against the extreme profiteering of management companies in the uni - I'm pretty vocal in that and was the first to start a picket line. I try to support charities operating in Third World countries (gonna vaccinate 150 kids now - will post details in a new thread!) and spread information on such charities to dozens, if not sometimes hundreds of people. I also listen to people when they complain about governments and poverty and corruption and all; I then engage them in conversation explaining the basics of leftist politics/economics and show them that there is an alternative.

That's what I'm doing at the moment. I know it's not much but I think in general it spreads awareness and gets people to "think outside the box". [/b]
Hey, thats very interesting. Say, what school do you attend and what grade are you in?

YSR
3rd December 2006, 23:03
I can't tell if this thread is a profile attempt (or one that could be used as such by cops) or a self-congratulatory ego boost.

RNK
4th December 2006, 03:19
Every day I gather at approx. 6PM at 39550 Hunt street in Toronto, Ontario, where we plan and organize revolutionary activites to bring about the destruction of the bourgeoisie capitalist government of Canada...

RebeldePorLaPAZ
4th December 2006, 03:41
Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2006 11:19 pm
Every day I gather at approx. 6PM at 39550 Hunt street in Toronto, Ontario, where we plan and organize revolutionary activites to bring about the destruction of the bourgeoisie capitalist government of Canada...
Just the sound of that didn't sound right. I mean the wording. Keep in mind this is a public forum and open to anybody. Keep an eye out during your meetings and careful when you throw around the work destruction.

:ph34r:



--Paz

An archist
4th December 2006, 10:42
I'm sure he was very serious

RebeldePorLaPAZ
4th December 2006, 16:57
self-congratulatory ego boost.


What is that suppose to mean? That this was set up so we can brag about ourselves???



--Paz

Omri Evron
5th December 2006, 11:00
Every wednesday I guide the meeting of the Communist Youth League in my city (Tel-Aviv), and whenever I can I go to the friday demonstrations in the West Bank against the Apartheid Wall. Other than that there are a bunch of demos (legal or not) every week on various issues, there are leaftlets and propaganda to spread around, and so on. There are simply so many horrible things going on in Israel that there are allways things to do here.

Here is an example of a successful direct action:
When Communist Arabs in the mixed Jewish-Arab city of Ramla asked to change some of the Zionist street names in the city to Arab names, the mayor made nasty public racist statements. So a group of the Communist Youth League came to Ramleh and changed the name of the streets themselves with stikers. Although they were eventually caught, the story made the national news.

Rawthentic
5th December 2006, 15:40
Wow, now thats what Im talkin' about. Good stuff man, keep it up.

Faceless
6th December 2006, 00:40
I can't tell if this thread is a profile attempt (or one that could be used as such by cops) or a self-congratulatory ego boost.
To be honest, the cops only have to come up to our Hands off Venezuela stall and put their names down on the email list and they would know more than I post on here. Naturally I don&#39;t email out details about our next bank robbery (although the fighting fund is running low, maybe I should ask for volunteers). :wacko: <-wacko

I would tell you to get involved in an organisation. I wouldn&#39;t say any old organisation, naturally I would suggest the tendency I am involved with. Naturally if you are working, join your union. [Edit: I over used the word naturall, but it is 1.40am]

More important is to learn and give yourself a good grounding in marxist theory.

coda
6th December 2006, 01:21
<<When people are hungry and the government isn&#39;t doing anything to solve the problem and the people in turn take power into their own hands and work to solve the problems the government can&#39;t, I would call that pretty revolutionary.>>


Hey, I totally agree. and the first Black Panthers did also. I&#39;m surprised that some communists here miss the point.

RebeldePorLaPAZ
6th December 2006, 02:01
There was also the Young Lord Party in the US.



--Paz

harris0
8th December 2006, 05:27
I live in a very conservative/middle of nowhere neck of the woods...so it&#39;s hard to find like minded people. Can&#39;t say I&#39;m given the oppurtunity to do stuff on a daily basis. I tried to organize my workplace this past summer....the reactions were essentially
A. no interest
B. ignorance (when I asked one woman if she was interested in unionizing, she said she didn&#39;t know anything about "credit unions")
C. Fear of repercussion from management

Anyway, couldn&#39;t get it off the ground

afrikaNOW
9th December 2006, 06:02
If we don&#39;t document some of our direct action how can other comrades emulate in their communities. Remember, the revolution will not be televised. It&#39;s up to us to share ideas between each other.

Why are you scared of the police or the feds or the State? I think alot of people are forgetting this is the purpose of the state, and we are doing the purpose of the revolutionary. Don&#39;t be afraid to goto rallies and have your picture taken or be beaten. Your job is to agitate and to help the community their jobs is to oppress and have the community in a state of fear.

We held a program where we distributed free childrens books in the urban communities. A action that i urge all to do to improve the reading level of our youth and to prevent deliquency, which can lead to crime, prison or death.

Feed the People programs, where we distribute free lunches to the homeless. We may broaden this program to distribute canned food to the less fortunate.

Also community based direct actions, to get various areas of the community cleaned up. Working with the gangs to get the off the streets and into job training. Etc.

These are our actions in the community besides the meetings, study groups, etc.

Chocobo
9th December 2006, 06:28
My daily action used to be political graffiti, but some advice if you do do this is;
1) Make it artsy&#33; I did pure literature, i&#39;d have poetry everywhere. I thought it was beautiful, but people don&#39;t like words, so my graffiti did pretty much nothing.

2) Keep your mouth shut your doing it (Duh&#33;)

Now my daily action is kinda cut down. I have an independent magazine (Libertarian Press&#33;) in the town over that I pretty much do everything for it with no help and i&#39;m also the founder of the "Student Underground", which is a small, leftist faction composed of students from my school where we organize demonstrations and post up our propaganda and such everywhere, which consists of politics, current events, or soem form of intelligent sensationalism. Also many fliers calling for unity.

At the moment i&#39;m planning on doing a demonstration that will be for cannabis legalization and prove whether freedom of religion and speech exists in America. Some of my friends are Taoists and Rastafari. Cannabis is used in both these religions as a sacrament. Therefore, when we hold the demonstration for cannabis legalization their going to hold their prayers and such and smoke cannabis. Will be doing this on federal property by the way. If the police arrest them for smoking marijuana then it shows how current day policies actualy come before the freedoms that America was founded on. Now most of us on this website already know about this, but were going to be filming this. If they do get arrested then im going to swap the morning announcment tape for my school (Every morning we turn on the tele and they show some dumb school news) and replace it with that. How long will it stay on? Well I wanna break the pause and stop button so unless they think to unplug it will see. I figure i&#39;ll try anyway :P