Originally posted by Johnny Anarcho+January 05, 2007 03:24 pm--> (Johnny Anarcho @ January 05, 2007 03:24 pm)
Originally posted by
[email protected] 04, 2007 05:25 pm
Originally posted by Johnny
[email protected] 04, 2007 04:59 pm
[email protected] 02, 2006 07:34 pm
Fuck Islamic fundamentalism.
Fuck any kind of religious fundamentalism.
What are you, spokesman for the National Front. Fundamentalism means practicing a religions fundamentals, its not the same thing as extremism.
:huh: YOu don't even know what fucking fundamentalism is do you? It's the following of a religion's "holy book" to the letter. So fuck it, because it advocates stoning me and my friends to death. Fuck all religious fundamentalism, it's not going to help us.
The fundamentals of most religions are also bad anyway, to whit: Don't let anyone else even think of straying from the path of "true" belief, Restrict all kinds of behaviour that don't need restricting, restrict the kind of behaviour that most people don't induldge in anyway.
THe only problem with this guy's post is that it didn't go far enough. Religion is the biggest shackle that we have put on our minds, often its morality holds back our science, especially in genetics. Who was it after all that came up with the 'playing god' argument? The atheists? No. It is religion that holds us back, every attempt to better humanity is, for the most part, opposed by religion. It is true that you get progressive elements in religions, but they are not holding true to their own deluded system, they compromise on the very thing that keeps them believing yet they still insit on believing in a higher power, a fairy in the sky that sends lightning bolts.
The religious want ignorance, it helps them feed their disorder - it confirms their illogical belief system. Their god lives in our ignorance, everything unexplained becomes god's doing. When we discovered the reasons for lightning it no longer became god's righteous anger but a simple physical occurance. When we know of plate techtonics earthquakes no longer represent god's anger with the infidels. Every archeological discovery that confirms the theory of evolution is another nail in the coffin of the 'cosmic watchmaker' argument's coffin. The start of the universe is still disputed so that is one of god's last refuges, but even that is becoming encroached on by the light of reason.
Religion doesnt hold us down, Capitalism does. If anything religion is progressive. What got the Hebrews out of slavery in Egypt? Judaism. What helped to smash the Roman Empire? Christianity. What gave Arabian women their rights? Islam. [/b]
I can't comment on the slaves in Egypt but I've got some questions about the others:
1) Why was the fall of the Roman Empire, the event that hailed western civilisation's decent into an age of ignorance which took decades, maybe centuries, to escape from?
2)Are you joking about Islam bringing women's rights to the Arab world? If not, may I ask precisly what you're smoking and where I can get some?
3) WHo is more likley to rise up gianst oppression - someone who believes that if they do what their god says they will end up in heaven or whatever happy afterlife they believe in or one that believes their life on earth is the best thing that's ever going to happen to them?
As a religious person, I can say that your view of religion is stereotyped and biased. Yes there have been terrible things done in the name of religion but that doesnt mean religion is to blame but that the person is to blame. The KKK for example, though they claim to be Christian, have greatly twisted Christianity. The same goes for the JDL with Judaism and al-Qaeda with Islam. It's not just these things which oppose progress though, terrible though they are. It's people's determination to live in ignorance because each new discovery, each new enlightenment brings a small death to the god they bow down to. Religion is also a very good dogmatic tool, a bunch of ready to use lies which people like al-qaeda and so on can use however they want.
True that many religious conservatives have opposed change but they dont represent everyone. That's irrelevant to my argument.
I'm not here to preach but if these people want to live by a Sharia then that is their right to live as they choose, everyone should have the freedom to live as they please and who is anyone to prevent that from entering the Muslim community. No. Fuck their law. If we went by that stupid relativist approach we'd have to leave everyone alone because they're living, ostensibly, how they want to. Sharia is a reactionary law which we as leftists need to oppose.