King Kong

[AlwaysAnarchy]

So what did we think about this movie? I enjoyed it as an action adventure flick ALTHOUGH I did have a problem with the way the director Peter Jackson treated the Natives on Skull Island, he made them look like a bunch of savages, almost looking like those Orcs from LOTR and I think some people might connect that to the actual meeting "New" and "Old" Words in 1492 but I digress..

Oh yea, this is referring to the recent 2005 version if you didn't know.

[Schleppy]

I mostly just thought it was way too long...

[RebelDog]

I never even knew they remade it. With the rubbish Holywood churns out I bet its mostly awful. The original was entertaining in a cheesy way.

[Red Menace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28, 2006 01:56 pm
So what did we think about this movie? I enjoyed it as an action adventure flick ALTHOUGH I did have a problem with the way the director Peter Jackson treated the Natives on Skull Island, he made them look like a bunch of savages, almost looking like those Orcs from LOTR and I think some people might connect that to the actual meeting "New" and "Old" Words in 1492 but I digress..

Oh yea, this is referring to the recent 2005 version if you didn't know.
I think your overanalyzing it a bit. I mean its just a movie. I honestly don't watch it other than for entertainment purpouses. I'm not sure if its meant to be politically analized, other than the hardships that King Kong had to endure.

Besides I don't think he was trying to show that they were savages. In that, you can't really say whats savage and whats not. You may consider running around in the nude to be savage, but to them thats just how they live. They were an isolated group of people that had no means to survive than the way they chose to.

[BreadBros]

I thought it was very entertaining. I agree about the savages part however, Jackson made them seem insanely evil for some reason. However, the story did also portray the Jack Black guy and his crew as sort of being "invaders" who abuse nature for profit, which ends tragically, so I think in other regards it was politically good.

[Vargha Poralli]

I like the one liner in the climax" Its not the bullets but Beauty that killed the beast " ;)

[afrikaNOW]

Originally posted by Red Menace+November 29, 2006 04:34 am--> (Red Menace @ November 29, 2006 04:34 am)
[email protected] 28, 2006 01:56 pm
So what did we think about this movie? I enjoyed it as an action adventure flick ALTHOUGH I did have a problem with the way the director Peter Jackson treated the Natives on Skull Island, he made them look like a bunch of savages, almost looking like those Orcs from LOTR and I think some people might connect that to the actual meeting "New" and "Old" Words in 1492 but I digress..

Oh yea, this is referring to the recent 2005 version if you didn't know.
I think your overanalyzing it a bit. I mean its just a movie. I honestly don't watch it other than for entertainment purpouses. I'm not sure if its meant to be politically analized, other than the hardships that King Kong had to endure.

Besides I don't think he was trying to show that they were savages. In that, you can't really say whats savage and whats not. You may consider running around in the nude to be savage, but to them thats just how they live. They were an isolated group of people that had no means to survive than the way they chose to. [/b]
Every movie is meant to be analyzed and King Kong is no different. Analyze King Kong and the history of race relations in America...

[Floyd.]

Dudes,

I hyaven't seen the remake but the first thing I'd do would be to compare the natives tothose in the original and then decide if Jackson was fathful or if he took liberty in their depiction.

Besides, cigarettes man.

I thought the original quote was "'twas beauty that killed the beast"

I love Daniel Johnston's song King Kong where he tells the plot in song narrative as if you'd never seen the film.

I thought the CGI Ape looked bad from the promo stuff I saw. The original is one of the most amazing films I've ever seen and after first viewing it moved me so much I straight away sought after my own copy to own.

Here's the lyrics:
http://www.rejectedunknown.com/lyrics/Song/kingkong.htm
They really are worth reading.

[Dimentio]

I love it. The 2005 version of King Kong is one of my favourite movies, and it actually touches me very deep. Peter Jackson is a brilliant director, and the environments are both realistic and magic in the same time. That guy should have directed all productions that turned out to be crap [i.e George Lucas].

Why it touches me deeply?

The female actor reminds me of a girl which I had a crush on, and King Kong is an allegorical story about how the western man, personified by Carl Denham [Jack Black] for the love of money and status ravages isolated cultures and habitats, destroying everything that has a little bit of magic in the world. I actually associate it a bit to Kongo, due to the "Heart of darkness" allegory and the likeness of Carl Denham and Bruce Baxter with king Leopold II and HM Stanley.

[Floyd.]

It doesn't meant that to me.

I perceive Denham as exploitative and doesn't care for his workers. There are references to past adventures with dangerous beasts. I fail to see how he ravages and destroys though.

Denham and Driscoll were based on Merian C. Cooper and Ernest B. Schoedsack and their time spent shooting documentary films.

Cooper wanted to make his "monkey picture" because of a dream he had of a gorilla wreaking havoc on NYC. The rest of it is filler for that main premise which is why he borrowed from reality.

The story is really about communication, (mis) understanding, alienation and unrequited love. It's all about Kong and it was Willis O'Brien that made it an amazing film because we empathised with the ape.

Considering that Denham is Cooper or a glorifaction painted as Cooper desired I wouldn't say status and money are his motivations so much as adventure, discovery, being a pioneer and a devil-may-care great man as Cooper saw himself.

You can't really force politics onto this film you just take it as it is.

Considering it's time I'd also say it's a pretty good film with the way it handled the natives. All the characters are big stereotypical cutouts and are all fairly acceptable for children.

[Global_Justice]

well theres no doubt the original king kong is racist, but this one is less so.

[Global_Justice]

Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2006 09:52 am
I like the one liner in the climax" Its not the bullets but Beauty that killed the beast " ;)
one of the best lines in film history.

the aeroplanes got him

no, it wasnt the planes, twas beauty killed the beast

[Zero]

I would have gone to see it only for Jack Black, but I hear he tried to be serious in it.

If your trying to make a movie with Jack Black, and he can't be Jack Black. Fuck you.

[Dimentio]

He was Jack Black.

[bezdomni]

Jack Black did well until the word "boobies" got brought up.

That was probably 10 minutes into the movie.