638 ways to kill Castro documentary

[Noah]

It looks quiet good! I will tell you guys that can not see it how it is...It's about the different ways the Americans tried to off Castro but they failed and just how he has survived (like falling off the stage and tripping over and stuff)..

I hope it's not shitty anti-Cuba propaganda and is a good informative documentary.

[Comrade J]

I'm hoping it's not anti-Cuban as well, and I think it concentrates mostly on the absurd methods they tried, such as the exploding cigars, or the plan to put a large attractive sea-shell near his favourite diving site and load it with bombs.

Anyway for those who aren't in the UK then no doubt it will appear on Google Videos or something in the near future.

[luxemburg89]

hey, thanks for letting us know that. do you know how long it is?

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

22:00 638 Ways to Kill Castro
[subtitles]
There may be 50 ways to leave your lover, but how many ways are there to bump off a political enemy? Apparently not enough to bring down revolutionary Cuban leader Fidel Castro. This is a story of smoking guns and smoking cigars: a remarkable 50-year-long detective thriller, and the man who always got away.
23:30 Scars
[subtitles] [audio described]
Drama by award-winning filmmaker Leo Regan.

so from that I gauge.. an hour and a half

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

What day and what channel?

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28, 2006 08:34 pm
What day and what channel?
oops.sorry i didnt see the title!lol

[Noah]

I'm deploying the Noah forces infront of the TV.

[gouldy]

(my first post)

Ive been waiting all week for this program, and finally its arrived, hope its good viewing and everyone who can; enjoys it

[Comrade J]

Well as I'm watching this, I'd say it's complete and utter bollocks so far. All it does is interview people who tried/want to kill Castro, so obviously you just hear about how he had people killed, how evil he is etc. :rolleyes:

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

If you're interested, research Operation Mongoose.

[Noah]

Yeah it was shitty and one sided but I did like it at the end;

Gusano "We will kill him."
Interviewer "But you have tried 638 times and failed"

They think assassinating Castro will end the regime, how wrong they are!

Also notice how they are all rich and own corporations.

[RebelDog]

It was alright. The bit about Carriles was good. It made the US look bad.

[Jazzratt]

I think despite it heavily interviewing the gusanos it seemed to have an almost pro-cuba bent to it.

[Noah]

Yeah the interview with the former civil servant, explaining how George Bush passed for a terrorist by Bush's very own definition was good.

[Connolly]

Id love to have channel 4.

Im using sky digital from Ireland and its not included.

Anyone have the frequency codes for me to install it on the "other channels" section?

Yeah, I seen the clip on More 4, it looked good. Guess I didnt miss much :P .

[Sean]

I just watched it, I liked the big spike from the median 20-50 avg assassination attempts during nixon and reagan. (both between 150-200).

Still, it wasn't particularly helpful unless your were already looking for facts. To the masses this was just a Roadrunner vs. Wyle E. Coyote cartoon. But a damn sight more than most stations would dare run.

[Noah]

Yeah it was okay I thought it would be better though..Lol I liked the part when Fidel's ex-girlfriend tried to shoot him but couldn't and then he said "That's right, no one can kill me"...They can't either..

[RebelDog]

Originally posted by The [email protected] 29, 2006 12:19 am
Id love to have channel 4.

Im using sky digital from Ireland and its not included.

Anyone have the frequency codes for me to install it on the "other channels" section?

Yeah, I seen the clip on More 4, it looked good. Guess I didnt miss much :P .
Go to sky channel 994 and see whats on it. Its C4 here in Scotland.

[gouldy]

I quite enjoyed it, I am always looking learn more about Castro and it did help me. To me it was portraying Castro as a good person with people after him, i even felf a sort of sympathy come across in it for him. But some of those people that were interviewed were just plain terrorists, like the bloke who blew up the planes.

[Comrade J]

Originally posted by Noah(pbuh)@November 29, 2006 12:31 am
Yeah it was okay I thought it would be better though..Lol I liked the part when Fidel's ex-girlfriend tried to shoot him but couldn't and then he said "That's right, no one can kill me"...They can't either..
Ah yeah I remember that part, he offered her the gun and told her to shoot him, and she pointed it at him for a minute then said "I can't" and he said something like "it's ok, nobody can" :lol:

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

It had it's moments

The clips from old-time movies annoyed the hell out of me though

I found the interviews with Posoda and Bosch rather disconcerting, I think it was just the age thing... Growing up with grandparents I suppose I have some precondition of not seeing elderly people so venemous, spiteful and malignant.

[Zero]

It wouldn't happen to be on Google Video by now would it?

[Comrade J]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29, 2006 07:32 pm
It wouldn't happen to be on Google Video by now would it?
Part One (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8720171460755247403&q=ways+to+kill+castro)... the rest isn't there, but I presume he/she will add the rest at some other time?

[forza_che]

I can't believe they had an interview with Posoda.

The man is a known and confessed terrorist. By refusing Cuban attempts to extradite him surely they are rendering their own declaration that any states harbouring 'terrorists' are as guilty themselves completely ludicrous?

[ReD_ReBeL]

one of the woman at the end metioned "one of the reasons she wanted Castro dead was because he killed her 9 year old child"..... what did she mean?

[Zero]

Whoever uploaded it could have cut the commercials... >.>

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Here's what Prensa Latina says:


638 Ways to Kill Fidel Castro

London, Nov 29 (Prensa Latina) The man whom the CIA has tried to despatch with everything from a bacteria-infected hankie to an aerosol filled with LSD, is still around and should be blowing out the 80 candles on his cake on December 2, writes the Guardian newspaper.

Reviewing the film shown by British TV Channel Four Tuesday evening about the US government's 638 failed plots to kill Fidel Castro, the Guardian UK says it comes at a timely moment.

At a time when US government officials speculate about the Cuban leader´s health situation, this film deals on the attempts on the life of Fidel Castro, either directly organized by the CIA or their many proxies, registered by retired general Fabian Escalante in his book 638 Maneras de Matar a Castro (638 Ways to Kill Castro).

The film could hardly come at a better time as the world is being asked to take a stance against terrorism and western horror is expressed at the assassination of political leaders.

Dollan Cannell, the film's director, says that the plots seem to have failed through a mixture of incompetence, chance and bad timing. "The CIA had to do it without being blamed for it," says Cannell. "There had to be no smoking gun." No mention is made, however, of the efficient work of Cuban intelligence that foiled those attempts.

Castro has now seen off no fewer than eight American presidents, many of whom, Cannell believes, must have sanctioned the various attempted hits. "We can be 100 per cent sure that Eisenhower and Kennedy signed off on them," says Cannell.

"And I think you could say that probably also Johnson and Nixon agreed to them. Jimmy Carter told us when we met him during the making of the film that he did not," said Cannell.

Two of the chief anti-Castro plotters agreed to participate in the film: Orlando Bosch, weakened by a stroke, and Luis Posada, who is currently wanted in both Cuba and Venezuela in connection with the 1976 bombing of a Cuban airliner.

The film director and producer agree there is no shame about being involved in the plots amongst the exile community. They (the would-be assassins) are pretty much regarded as heroes. And there are still people who are only embarrassed that they didn't succeed."

Cannell says that the most striking aspect of the film for him is that a country, which is now so outspoken about its opposition to terrorism, should have been involved for so long in so many plans to kill a foreign head of state: "what shrieks at you is the double standard."

The film was shown just a few days before the planned celebrations in Havana for Castro's 80th birthday, which was postponed from this summer when he fell ill.

[Patchd]

DELETE,

Sorry, I didn't see the link already provided on the first page.

[Rollo]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30, 2006 11:12 am
one of the woman at the end metioned "one of the reasons she wanted Castro dead was because he killed her 9 year old child"..... what did she mean?
" I got paid to say this "


Something along those lines.

[Comrade J]

Originally posted by Rollo+December 01, 2006 08:56 am--> (Rollo @ December 01, 2006 08:56 am)
[email protected] 30, 2006 11:12 am
one of the woman at the end metioned "one of the reasons she wanted Castro dead was because he killed her 9 year old child"..... what did she mean?
" I got paid to say this "


Something along those lines. [/b]
Or she left Cuba and her son got killed by a bus in Miami or something like that, the gusanos usually blame Castro indirectly for every problem they ever have. TV not working? Hurricane coming? Got the flu? No doubt they can all be linked to Castro somehow :rolleyes:

[Noah]

Didn't you like those children at the end playing their gun games in the countryside pretending to storm a building and assassinate Castro!?

[Patchd]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 01, 2006 12:25 pm
Something along those lines.
Or she left Cuba and her son got killed by a bus in Miami or something like that, the gusanos usually blame Castro indirectly for every problem they ever have. TV not working? Hurricane coming? Got the flu? No doubt they can all be linked to Castro somehow :rolleyes: [/quote]
What d'you mean the TVs not working?! Damn that Castro :angry: , and what! A hurricane is comin', thats because Castro renounced God!