The Velvet Underground

[Pow R. Toc H.]

I think they are awesome. My favorite song would probably have to be Venus in Furs. Anybody else like them?

[Don't Change Your Name]

They are ok but extremely overrated, maybe the most overrated band ever. I rarely get to enjoy their music, sometimes I do but they usually bore me. Also, many of their experiments (European Son, Sister Ray, The Murder Mystery, The Gift) are crap. I whined about them in some other thread a long time ago.

I'd say "Heroin", "Candy Says", and sometimes "Some Kinda Love", "There She Goes Again", "Sunday Morning" and "Venus In Furs" are the only songs by them I "love". I'd say their third album is slightly better than their first and their WL/WH is pretty crappy although it starts off well. Loaded and VU are surprisingly good though.

Overall I'd say that only trendy phony rock critics love them, because they were "original" and "influential" and all that shit. Can and Captain Beefheart were better.



* prepares for the insults *

[ReD_ReBeL]

pretty good band..there was alot better bands to come out tht era but VU were still pretty cool.
As for being overrated...wasnt Venus In Furs not there only pretty successful track?

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I dig, but I can't say whether or not they were groundbreaking because I don't think I know enough about rock music to make such an ambitious claim.

[Don't Change Your Name]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26, 2006 10:38 pm
As for being overrated...wasnt Venus In Furs not there only pretty successful track?
I don't know...I only know that I heard "Heroin" a while ago in a shop.

And that plenty of people who care about "serious rock music" worships them.

What the Britney Spears-loving population thinks about bands like the Velvet Underground is irrelevant to me (and many others) :P

[Martin Blank]

Velvet Underground got a lot of its "cutting-edge" image from the fact that they were more or less a house band for Andy Warhol's art shows and parties. But they did do a lot of great work and helped define the early progressive rock movement (now occupied by hideously banal groups like the Dave Matthews Band).

Somewhere I have the CD set of Velvet Underground (and Nico, I think) live in Paris.

Miles

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Negro, please!
The Velvet Underground may have been experimental and psychedelic, like many of the predecessors of prog, but they were far from what soon thereafter became progressive rock. Their experimentalism and psychedelicness was closer to proto-punk, in its minimalism... quite the opposite of what became known as pogressive rock. In fact, The Velvet Underground are often said to have been one of the most influential bands to the punk movement.

And the Dave Matthews Band is also absolutely not progressive. This is actually the first time I see that lable being applied to them, and quite honestly, I don't understand why.

[Pow R. Toc H.]

The Velvet Underground are overrated but that doesnt change that fact that they are a great band. Alot of their stuff, especially with Nico, was almost like really early grunge. Even if they are overrated it doesnt change the fact that they were influential and that they were very different for their time.

[Victory_Or_Death]

Heroin is an awesome song. I heard it off a CD my dad owns. Then I went and bought as many Lou Reed CD's i could. It was awesome.

[BreadBros]

Negro, please!
The Velvet Underground may have been experimental and psychedelic, like many of the predecessors of prog, but they were far from what soon thereafter became progressive rock. Their experimentalism and psychedelicness was closer to proto-punk, in its minimalism... quite the opposite of what became known as pogressive rock. In fact, The Velvet Underground are often said to have been one of the most influential bands to the punk movement.

Why not? Avante-garde electric instrumentation (feedback and the such), long songs, unusual song structures, I can see the VU laying some of the foundation for progressive rock.


And the Dave Matthews Band is also absolutely not progressive. This is actually the first time I see that lable being applied to them, and quite honestly, I don't understand why.

Umm, quite a lot of people consider DMB, Phish, Bela Fleck, Mars Volta etc to be progressive rock. DMB and other "jam bands" may have a different attitude or tone, and often use acoustic instead of electric instrumentation, but the general musical structure of their stuff is just quite simply prog rock. Its a sub-genre I guess.

[Arsiema]

Originally posted by The Crying [email protected] 26, 2006 10:36 pm
I think they are awesome. My favorite song would probably have to be Venus in Furs. Anybody else like them?
They are cool. They ain't one of ma favourites, but they are cool.

[tambourine_man]

my favorite band <3

and there is a huge difference between exciting modern sonic noise and the boring pretentious drawn out prog rock...