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ComradeR
25th November 2006, 12:00
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6179818.stm
^Check out this bull.


At the KGB archive in Kiev, recently released files are piled up on an old-fashioned desk. These are said to demonstrate how the famine was artificially engineered.
Both this and it's timing sound suspicious too me.


"This is like dancing on the graves of the dead. Before it's been proved this was an act of genocide, the Orange authorities are doing their best to persuade everyone that it was," says Sergei Gmyrya, a historian for the Communist party.

"I am furious that this is being used by the politicians in their games," he says.

That says it all right there, this is just more of the capitalists twisting and exaggerating history for use as anti-leftist propaganda.

Whitten
25th November 2006, 14:25
Gotta love how no matter what action the reactionary governments of the ex-USSR want to take, they always managed to "find previously unrevealed documents in the archives". Those things have been open for over a decade and they're still managing to pull new fabrications out of there arses.

Wanted Man
25th November 2006, 14:33
Nice article. The way Ukrainian nationalists work is very, ah, "interesting".

Evidence(if you can call it that):


A row of emaciated Ukrainian children stare out of a photograph. Their gaunt faces are full of despair and their bodies are little more than skeletons.

One document is an order from Moscow to shoot people who steal food. It is signed by Stalin in red ink.

Conclusion:


[T]he only aim of that experiment was to exterminate Ukrainian people.

:lol:

The Author
25th November 2006, 20:03
Originally posted by [email protected] November 25, 2006, 10:25 am
Gotta love how no matter what action the reactionary governments of the ex-USSR want to take, they always managed to "find previously unrevealed documents in the archives". Those things have been open for over a decade and they're still managing to pull new fabrications out of there arses.

Indeed. And there are some bourgeois historians who have done the same as well. It's always interesting to see that whenever leftist movements start to gain momentum, the bourgeoisie always provides a "history lesson" about the Communists of the past.

Probably this campaign is also being carried out in response to the protests made by leftists and veterans in the Ukraine against the Ukrainian Nationalists getting pensions despite fighting for the Nazis during the war.


A row of emaciated Ukrainian children stare out of a photograph. Their gaunt faces are full of despair and their bodies are little more than skeletons.

I wonder if this "famine photo" came from the Russian famine of 1921-22? We know how the Ukrainian Nationalists (and in the past, the Nazis) are famous for taking photos from that famine and attempting to pass them off as "evidence" for this "genocide."


One document is an order from Moscow to shoot people who steal food. It is signed by Stalin in red ink.

"Shoot people"... Note that there is no class analysis in this sentence. No information by the BBC about the kulak class stealing grain from the poor peasantry, and how this ruling class was eventually liquidated. Instead, the reader gets this impression that a poor person a la Jean Valjean is stealing bread and is being brutally punished for it by the oppressive government.



For the record, Ivan Leschenko- the main interviewee in this article- was one of the people interviewed on the History Channel documentary, "Stalin, Man of Steel." Odd how out of the supposed thousands of survivors of the Holodomor (sic), the BBC chose him...