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Orange Juche
15th November 2006, 20:41
Can anyone give me a source of information about Bill Clinton and all the malicious shit he's done?

Connolly
15th November 2006, 21:22
:lol: , Id like just such information too - to many "Bill Clinton" was a peacful and good president coming from the Irish - mainly due to his involvment in establishing "peace" in the North id imagine.

Two things, though.

1) The USA attacked and destroyed the largest medical manufacturing plant in Sudan in 1998, leaving millions without vital vaccines and medicine. The attack was without notice and "intelligence" said the target was supposed to have been a chemical weapons plant - it wasnt - and the sudanese could have done with such a plant to this very day. This attack occured during the "reign" of Bill Clinton.

2) Again, another US cruise missile attack on supposed terrorist training camps in Afghanistan in 1998 during Bill Clintons presidency. Just like Sudan - it was undeclared and the target turned out to be a wedding under marquie tent like structures.

3) Im not sure of the year, but also during Bill Clintons presidency another cruise missile attack on Yemen. What the target was - im not sure.

Isnt it amazing how the US strikes various countries with its missiles without any declaration and almost no News coverage by western media!

Id also imagine he/the USA supported various dictators, rightwing terror groups and staged coups of democratically elected leaders.

Bush, Clinton - IMO, same difference. One just happened to be in power during a time when it was felt war was necessary.

But again - id like some more info on him.

Son of a Strummer
18th November 2006, 15:12
Big Bill's administration oversaw their client state Turkey when it massacred more than 50,000 Kurds. This specifically put the lie to their doctrine of humanitarian intervention.

to quote Ed Herman....


The word genocide is rarely if ever applied to Turkish ethnic cleansing and massacres of its Kurds, and in fact Turkey was mobilized to participate in the 78-day NATO (de facto U.S.) bombing war against Yugoslavia in 1999, supposedly to terminate “genocide” in Kosovo, although Turkey’s attacks on its local Kurds were far more deadly than any pre-bombing-war Yugoslav violence against the Kosovo Albanians. The obvious explanation of the varying word usage is that Turkey was a U.S. ally, and its ethnic cleansing and killings were facilitated by greatly increased U.S. (Clinton administration) military aid, just as Indonesia’s violence in East Timor was greatly helped by greater U.S. (Carter administration) aid to the killer state. Yugoslavia, on the other hand, was a U.S. target. Amusingly, as Noam Chomsky points out in Hegemony or Survival, when Turkey failed to cooperate in the invasion-occupation of Iraq, suddenly the U.S. media began to report on Turkey’s “ghastly record of torturing, killing, and ‘disappearing’ Turkish Kurds” that had previously been kept under the rug, although they continued to keep under the rug the fact of massive Clinton administration aid facilitating that “ghastly record.” .http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:Fp1uyRZT1MQJ:www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm%3FItemID%3D5538+Clinton+and+the+ge nocide+of+Kurds&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=38&client=firefox-a



Bill's administration is also implicated in the criminal inaction during the genocide in Rwanda.

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AlwaysAnarchy
19th November 2006, 18:43
Bill Clinton was really a right winger trying to be a liberal. He was actually very conservative in many of his policies and like, banned same sex marriages, supported destroying welfare, bombed countries, cut taxes and yea, not so good for left wing people

Pawn Power
20th November 2006, 03:43
Originally posted by [email protected] 19, 2006 01:43 pm
Bill Clinton was really a right winger trying to be a liberal. He was actually very conservative in many of his policies and like, banned same sex marriages, supported destroying welfare, bombed countries, cut taxes and yea, not so good for left wing people
Not just bad for left wingers, bad for everyone, particularly the peaple of Sudan.

I like how you just made a thread and asked what libral means and then go and use the term.

I dont see how taxes are important? If he raised them would that be good? I dont think that is really important. Clinton acted like all presidents and enforced U$ hegmony in forigne policy. I get really sick of people praising him, I think it is because the economy was a bit better then? Eitherway you could argue he was "left" of most other president but that says very little, left of that is still right.