Bomb Mc D's in Oaxaca

[Dominicana_1965]

http://www.comcast.net/news/international/.../12/519304.html (http://www.comcast.net/news/international/latinamerica/index.jsp?cat=LATIN&fn=/2006/11/12/519304.html)

OAXACA, Mexico - Four youths wearing masks tossed gasoline bombs at a McDonald's restaurant in the conflict-torn city of Oaxaca on Sunday, damaging the windows, seats and play area, police said.

Security personnel at the shopping center where the McDonald's is located extinguished the blaze, police said. The restaurant was closed during the pre-dawn attack, and nobody was hurt.

The shopping mall is near a university where leftist protesters set up their headquarters last month after police drove them out of city's main plaza, which they had occupied for five months in a bid to force the resignation of the Oaxaca state governor. Those activists attacked a Burger King restaurant in the same mall with gasoline bombs last week.

However, leaders of the movement, known as the Oaxaca People's Assembly, denied their members were responsible for Sunday's attack.

McDonald's was at the center of controversy here in 2002, when artists and community groups forced the chain to abandon plans to open a franchise in Oaxaca's picturesque colonial main square, saying it would hurt the city's cultural identity.

Oaxaca's conflict started as a teachers' strike for higher pay. It expanded into a fight to oust Gov. Ulises Ruiz, with leftist protesters seizing the city center, building barricades, burning buses and seizing radio stations to call for revolution.

The unrest drove foreign tourists away from the city, one of the country's top attractions.

On Saturday, the Roman Catholic bishop of Oaxaca declined a request to give asylum or sanctuary to People's Assembly leaders who fear arrest. Bishop Jose Luis Chavez Botello said the church did not have the resources to guarantee the safety of the protest leaders but was trying to facilitate understanding and dialogue between the two sides.

Many of the striking teachers recently agreed to accept pay increases and return to work. Federal police have retaken the city center, but violence has persisted elsewhere, including clashes between police and protests that injured 30 people last week.

[R_P_A_S]

and how does this further the cause exactly? glad they atleast didn't do this while peopel were there.

[Enragé]

honestly, i dont understand why the mcdonalds would even be open at any time, why it would still be standing.

talk about a symbol of imperialism

[Ze]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2006 10:25 am
and how does this further the cause exactly? glad they atleast didn't do this while peopel were there.
revolutionary symbolism meets vandalism and violence. its cool in my book as long as nobody got hurt. corporations dont count.

[R_P_A_S]

Originally posted by Ze+November 13, 2006 03:09 pm--> (Ze @ November 13, 2006 03:09 pm)
[email protected] 13, 2006 10:25 am
and how does this further the cause exactly? glad they atleast didn't do this while peopel were there.
revolutionary symbolism meets vandalism and violence. its cool in my book as long as nobody got hurt. corporations dont count. [/b]
i understand "the symbol" and the all that shit. yes I do. fuck McDonald's but their very own people work there. now they out of work. (and yes i know who cares is salve wages. I KNOW! I KNOW! still! for the current situation THIS DOES NOT HELP!!!. And this does not further the cause it does not contribute anything to APPO and the people's current struggle.

[Pirate Utopian]

maybe it wernt even revolutionaires to begin with and just a bunch of rioters and/or vandals

[Dominicana_1965]

Originally posted by Big [email protected] 13, 2006 06:44 pm
maybe it wernt even revolutionaires to begin with and just a bunch of rioters and/or vandals
Well there is one thing i forgot to mention , and that was that the title claims it was the youth.

[Enragé]

Originally posted by R_P_A_S+November 13, 2006 06:13 pm--> (R_P_A_S @ November 13, 2006 06:13 pm)
Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2006 03:09 pm

[email protected] 13, 2006 10:25 am
and how does this further the cause exactly? glad they atleast didn't do this while peopel were there.
revolutionary symbolism meets vandalism and violence. its cool in my book as long as nobody got hurt. corporations dont count.
i understand "the symbol" and the all that shit. yes I do. fuck McDonald's but their very own people work there. now they out of work. (and yes i know who cares is salve wages. I KNOW! I KNOW! still! for the current situation THIS DOES NOT HELP!!!. And this does not further the cause it does not contribute anything to APPO and the people's current struggle. [/b]
post-revolution, everyone's out of a job, no?

but yeh
they should have looted the place, given all the cash to the people who worked there, and then torched it.

[Ze]

comrades, the damage wasn't bad. i was watching mexican television and the damage was little more than a couple broken windows and some cleaning up.

[Rawthentic]

McDonald's should be embarrassed for being open in a time of social upheaval. Maybe the bombing will teach them a lesson. I also bet that the capitalist media didnt hesitate to call it a "terrorist" attack.

[R_P_A_S]

Originally posted by NewKindOfSoldier+November 13, 2006 07:53 pm--> (NewKindOfSoldier @ November 13, 2006 07:53 pm)
Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2006 06:13 pm

Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2006 03:09 pm

[email protected] 13, 2006 10:25 am
and how does this further the cause exactly? glad they atleast didn't do this while peopel were there.
revolutionary symbolism meets vandalism and violence. its cool in my book as long as nobody got hurt. corporations dont count.
i understand "the symbol" and the all that shit. yes I do. fuck McDonald's but their very own people work there. now they out of work. (and yes i know who cares is salve wages. I KNOW! I KNOW! still! for the current situation THIS DOES NOT HELP!!!. And this does not further the cause it does not contribute anything to APPO and the people's current struggle.
post-revolution, everyone's out of a job, no?

but yeh
they should have looted the place, given all the cash to the people who worked there, and then torched it. [/b]
I didn't mean post revolution. I mean THE PRESENT. with all the political and social unrest in Oaxaca that least thing needed right now is to bomb or torch a Mcdonalds in Oaxaca.

[Antiscience]

If only we had that anti-McDonald’s fervor here in the US. Maybe you could pass a street in Manhattan without seeing one. Disgusting.

Good for whoever did this.

[Tekun]

This is one of many attacks against foreign businesses or organizations in the last few weeks since the siege on Oaxaca by government forces
Just today, there was a car bomb just outside the UN offices in the city of Mexico
The police were able to defuse it, and it never exploded
However, the fact remains that anarchist/communist youth are taking vengeance on symbols of business and imperialism in Mexico
And rightfully so...

Though like NKOS said, loot the place, distribute the dough, and then firebomb it :D

[bcbm]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2006 06:42 pm
I didn't mean post revolution. I mean THE PRESENT. with all the political and social unrest in Oaxaca that least thing needed right now is to bomb or torch a Mcdonalds in Oaxaca.
Why? If the people want to enact their rage against society and more specifically, against multi-national imperialism, great!

[Kamraten]

Iam lovin it.

[Red October]

im glad they made the gesture, but also glad it wasnt totally destroyed, thereby taking away the livelihoods (if you can call it that) of the workers. and its excellent that no one was there. its a good sign, but hopefully wont lead to vioence against bystanders or anything like that. good thing that car bomb outside the UN offices didnt explode, or else we'd be in even more shit.

[Janus]

Good symbolic feat and all yet I would think that they would have better targets to focus on and attack like the police that are trying to crush the strike.

[Red October]

the cops would be a great target. blowing up a police station is infinitely better than trying to burn down a burger joint.

[Brekisonphilous]

Awesome, but they should have anhiliated the entire place altogether.
I'm really glad that no workers were injured.

[R_P_A_S]

Originally posted by black banner black gun+November 14, 2006 03:57 pm--> (black banner black gun @ November 14, 2006 03:57 pm)
[email protected] 13, 2006 06:42 pm
I didn't mean post revolution. I mean THE PRESENT. with all the political and social unrest in Oaxaca that least thing needed right now is to bomb or torch a Mcdonalds in Oaxaca.
Why? If the people want to enact their rage against society and more specifically, against multi-national imperialism, great! [/b]
"The People?" you mean, possibly ignorant youth who did this just to be "rebels" and "cool"
where is the agenda in all this? The ultimate goal and direction of this actions? seriously.

I'm all for fighting back and protecting your self from opression. But in this particular case this does not help, and it just adds to and shows the misunderstanding of the greater issue at hand.

It's like the other guy here saying "loot the place and distribute the wealth" LMAO! :lol:
What fucking wealth? a few thousand Pesos, some fucking friers, chairs, tables, straws, plastic cups and frozen hamburger meat. ooh yeah this is really going to enrich and further the peoples struggle in Oaxaca.. :rolleyes:

c'mon on guys.. give me a fucking break. You can't possible be seriously thinking this is even an option.

I can't stress enough that the issue is far more in depth than "looting" and bombing Mcdonald's.

[Guerrilla22]

At least they left Wendy's alone.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15, 2006 02:40 pm
At least they left Wendy's alone.
Mmm motherfucking frosty!


"The People?" you mean, possibly ignorant youth who did this just to be "rebels" and "cool"

I don't recall the article mentioning any arrests or utterance of motives from those parties responsible, so I suspect you're only talking out your ass. Last I checked, young people are still people and have just as much reason to be upset with society as anyone else. Maybe you weren't aware, but bombing places of business carries pretty serious repurcussions and so I would doubt people do it very much on a whim, unless they've lost all hope.


where is the agenda in all this? The ultimate goal and direction of this actions? seriously.

Expressing rage against neo-imperialism and the US in general. Not everything is going to make "major advances" for "the cause." :rolleyes:


I'm all for fighting back and protecting your self from opression. But in this particular case this does not help, and it just adds to and shows the misunderstanding of the greater issue at hand.

They attacked a target that has been attacked by those pissed off at the US and imperialism all over the world. I don't see the problem here. Who gives a fuck about some McD's windows, they don't even make good milkshakes!


I can't stress enough that the issue is far more in depth than "looting" and bombing Mcdonald's.

Well no shit, there is a lot going on, but who gives a fuck if some imperialist property gets caught in the crossfire. We should support all those who act out their rages against this mess in whatever way they can find.

[Guerrilla22]

Mmm motherfucking frosty!

I know, they make vanilla frosy's now!

[Red October]

if they attack taco bell, thats fucked up. though i can understand why they would do that, as mexicans probably find taco bell food disgusting and foreign.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15, 2006 03:49 pm

Mmm motherfucking frosty!

I know, they make vanilla frosy's now!
Seriously?! I think I will make a trip over there to check that shit out.

[Brekisonphilous]

It is good that they bombed mcdonalds, that place trashes your health, and under the constraints of capitalism, it is presented as one of the cheapest options. This is good for the lower class.

[Guerrilla22]

Originally posted by black banner black gun+November 15, 2006 10:33 pm--> (black banner black gun @ November 15, 2006 10:33 pm)
[email protected] 15, 2006 03:49 pm

Mmm motherfucking frosty!

I know, they make vanilla frosy's now!
Seriously?! I think I will make a trip over there to check that shit out. [/b]
http://www.wendys.com/food/Product.jsp?family=8&product=280

[which doctor]

Protesters stormed a Wal-Mart near Mexico City recently: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061115/ap_on_...al_mart_protest (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061115/ap_on_bi_ge/mexico_wal_mart_protest)

[Guerrilla22]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16, 2006 04:21 am
Protesters stormed a Wal-Mart near Mexico City recently: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061115/ap_on_...al_mart_protest (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061115/ap_on_bi_ge/mexico_wal_mart_protest)
I saw that on telemundo. I guess that pretty much discredits the rights argument about protesters of Wal-Mart being in oppisition to Wal-Mart because low income people shop there.