U571, great escape, Bridge over the river Kwui - bull shit

[Invader Zim]

U571 I think that film should be banned. Its just bullshit pure and simple. The US did not capture the first Inigma machine. The Brits did.

The great escape. Not one member of the US special forces escaped from that tunnel.

Bridge over the River Kwui. There was no American for over 100 square miles in that area + the Bridge they built still stands... (i think)

[Pete]

The events of U571 are fabricated.

The Great Escape was made up of Canadian and British, for the most part, because the Americans did not want to risk it. Officers too of course.

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from CrazyPete on 6:36 pm on April 4, 2003
The events of U571 are fabricated.

The Great Escape was made up of Canadian and British, for the most part, because the Americans did not want to risk it. Officers too of course.

The Americans were in the next door camp they did not even know it was on.

U571 is a true story it just was not a USA team which did it.


Why do Americans always feal the need to take other nations achivements and tell there public its there achivments. Do they feal insecure?

[El Barbudo]

For sure they feel insecure... They fear terrorists, communists, well everybody who's not just like them.

[Pete]

Ahhh. I always was told in history that various groups stole various parts, but never the entire Enigma, and the boat U571 never existed.

They say that Mexico invaded Texas at the Alamo, that tthey won the War of 1812. That Vietnam was not meant to be won. I am told that they where the first real democracy, although the french of the 1790's had universal male sufferage. They claim to be the protectors of the western hemisphere, although most nations distrust them. And on and on and on.

[Zombie]

http://www.jamesfollett.dswilliams.co.uk/u...damm%20lies.htm (http://www.jamesfollett.dswilliams.co.uk/u571%20lies%20damm%20lies.htm)

[Catch22]

guys most historical films are full of BS. No point in taking them seriuosly.

[El Barbudo]

I hated Pearl Harbor movie with Ben Affleck! This was so much of propaganda! ''The Bad Japanese'' attacked the pacific little America. That's shit

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from El Barbudo on 12:30 am on April 6, 2003
I hated Pearl Harbor movie with Ben Affleck! This was so much of propaganda! ''The Bad Japanese'' attacked the pacific little America. That's shit

yes that film forgot the little detail that the USA was blockading Japan and stopping any ships entering the islands. Which meant that loads of japanese people were starving...

[El Barbudo]

Most of Hollywood's war movies are American Propaganda. Remember Saving Private Ryan, U571, Black Hawk Down...

Hopefully, we can also remember FMJ and Apocalypse Now! Thanks to Mr Kubrick and Mr Coppola!

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from El Barbudo on 2:47 pm on April 6, 2003
Most of Hollywood's war movies are American Propaganda. Remember Saving Private Ryan, U571, Black Hawk Down...

Hopefully, we can also remember FMJ and Apocalypse Now! Thanks to Mr Kubrick and Mr Coppola!

FMJ??? ohh Full metal jacket... Such a good film.

(Edited by AK47 at 10:57 pm on April 8, 2003)

[Dirty Jersey]

its just entertainment. no one wants to think theyre an asshole. if someone made a movie saying we were dicks no one here would watch it. its about the money not propoganda. if they make people feel good about themselves after the movies over then thats a chance to make even more money when its released on video.

[Sovietsky Souyuz]

at least in saving private ryan and pearl harbour they got one thing right, lots of americans died.

and the americans just like to think they won the war, and aswell, does anybody else thinks a bunch of slave owning racists were 'miss-cast' as the 'heroes' in the patriot ?

[El Barbudo]

youre right sovietsky.
nice avatar by the way

[Invader Zim]

I tell you a good film... Zulu. At least it had some good actors in it.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Quote: from Dirty Jersey on 6:11 pm on April 7, 2003
its just entertainment. no one wants to think theyre an asshole. if someone made a movie saying we were dicks no one here would watch it. its about the money not propoganda. if they make people feel good about themselves after the movies over then thats a chance to make even more money when its released on video.


Uhmm, there is something like the US government which the filmmakers have to please to not to get the rage of the zombie people and the government.

Remember Rambo and Sum of all fears, both hollywood movies, CIA backed. Ment to disturb ur common sense.

[Menshevik]

They're just films meant to entertain you, nothing more. You want non-fiction, watch a documentary.

[sin miedo]

Yes, U.S. movies are chock full of "un-facts." But trust me, they are not the only State using propaganda through films, it's just that they have the most money.

[Urban Rubble]

O.k, I'm just as leftist as the next guy on this board, but how you people can try to justify Pearl Harbor is beyond me. I know we all love to hate the U.S (me included) but Japan was a FASCIST country who were aligned with the Nazis. Yes, America is an evil imperialist country, but so was Japan and so was Germany. It sucks we were blocking ships from entering Japan but we were in a World War fighting against fascist imperialism. Don't try to justify an attack just because it was an attack on the U.S. You might as well just applaud those "brave" terrorists who flew into the World Trade Center.

[Deniz Gezmis]

At the time of pearl habour, the Americans were not at war. I think.

[Dirty Jersey]

yes and no. we were an allied power blockading japan and sending supplies to other allied countries. we hadnt officially committed troops yet. but the flying tigers were a group of american mercenarys supplied by the us to china since the late thirties to keep the burma road safe from the japanese. of course we got by all the red tape because they were all volunteers so we couldnt be blamed.