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LeonardoDaVinci
1st April 2003, 12:42
I have just finished reading this intriguing book, in which the author claims that the Chinese were the first to set foot in the New World, and that the Europeans were only following suit, equiped with maps which Columbus, Magellan and Cook used in their voyages.

According to him, the Ming Emperor Zhu Di, who embarked on several grandiose prjects during reign ordered the dispatching of the largest fleet the world had ever seen under the command of his loyal eunuch admirals. Their mission was 'to proceed all the way to the end of the earth to collect tribute from the barbarians beyond the seas' and unite the whole world in Confucian harmony. Their journey would last over two years and circle the globe.

When they returned Emperor Zhu Di lost his control of China was beginning its long, self-imposed isolation from the world it had so recently embraces. The great ships rotted at their moorings and the records of their journeys were destroyed. Lost was the knowledge that Chinese ships had reached America seventy years before Columbus and circumnavigated the globe a century before Magellan. They had also discovered Antarctica, reached Australia 350 years before Cook and solved the problem of longitude three hundred years before the Europeans.

Supported by a vast wealth of evidence and expert opinion, it is the story of a remarkable journey of discovery that if proven right, will rewrite our understanding of history and world exploration.

If you cannot obtain the book, then I recommend that you have a look on the website:

http://www.1421.tv/

Umoja
1st April 2003, 21:23
I've heard that Africans could have been as well. I actually, believe both of them discovered here. Also, the Vikings would probubly pre-date this, but I'm not sure having looked at the Olmec heads (with the thick lips, and twisted locks) but who knows.....

DisruptiveBehaviour
2nd April 2003, 05:08
The vikings discovered America far before the chinese or the europeans , yet its still written that Columbus discovered it first... I think its theorized the Africans travelled to America too...

soulrise925
2nd April 2003, 13:03
i should write a book on how the indigenous ppls "discovered" america ;)

Silent Eye
2nd April 2003, 22:34
I have heard that it was the Phoenicians with their constant voyages who were the first true "easterners" to "discover" the Americas.

LeonardoDaVinci
4th April 2003, 14:25
Although many other civilisations might have discovered America by chance prior to that, I believe that if this theory if vindicated then it will shatter the widely accepted theory that the Europeans (i.e. the Spanish, Portuguese, English and Venetians) were the first to circumnavigate the globe and have the means and technology to accomplish this magnificent feat.

Despite the fact that the Vikings, Phoenicians, Africans..etc might have accidentally or intentionally discovered America, I think the importance of this book lies in the fact that it illuminates the technological development as well as the wealth of a Chinese civilisation which at the time vastly exceeded that of a comparatively backwards Europe and which enabled them to embark on such a grandiose project. Furthermore, proving that Admiral Zheng He's fleets did indeed discover the Americas, Australia, and Antarctica in a single audacious maritime expedition will illuminate the certain advances made in the fields of astronomy, metallurgy, mathematics and maritime science at the time.

Finally, I think that given the sheer amount of supporting evidence backed by expert opinion this will be opposed vehemently by the great number of conservative scientist who view science, discovery and technology as an essentially European game and wish to maintain it that way.

Dhul Fiqar
4th April 2003, 17:24
You're all forgettign one thing:

How loyal can a eunuch really be to the person who neutered him? ;)

LeonardoDaVinci
5th April 2003, 14:41
Quote: from Dhul Fiqar on 6:24 pm on April 4, 2003
You're all forgettign one thing:

How loyal can a eunuch really be to the person who neutered him? ;)

LOL... yeah, I never understood it myself. You chop my balls of and I pledge my allegiance to you for the rest of my natural life! very confusing indeed.