Workers in power

[blueeyedboy]

If workers get in power, will they seriously know how to handle all political problems, and make society a better place to live in. Surely, not all workers will understand the gigantic task ahead of them. That's why I advocate some form of state, rather than a stateless society. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be bothered if all workers knew about all problems and everything else that politics entail, but realistically they don't, in my opinion.

Any thoughts?

[Dominicana_1965]

Well its currently happening in Venezuela.

This link will help you understand it more. Check it out its the current situation with the Workers in power in Venezuela, and the way they are progressing without Bosses.
And yep they know what they are doing :P

http://venezuelanalysis.com/articles.php?artno=1872

[sav]

That is why society will merge into communes, rather than the all-encompassing state.

And what political problems do you refer to? A lot of what is defined as 'politics' now will be non-issues.

[rebelworker]

The big question for me is who has the right to decide they know whats best for everyone else?

The Party has show to create another self serving ruling class. The idea of a communist revolution is to put power into the hands of regualr people, and the only way to transfor society is to learn by doing.

You cant substitute a self proclaimed "educated" minority for masss action, many have tried it in the past and it has failed to move toward communism. the working class isnt fully informed about all aspects of politics and govenance because we are kept in the dark under the current system and even if we did now it wouldnt matter because we dont get a say anyway. The only way people will be bothered to get informed and work togeathr to improve the society is if all working people get a say in how their lives and communities are to be run.

Again, mass action, mass democracy and true equality are the road to success.

[Enragé]

politics arent difficult at all, they are made complicated by those who want people to think they can never ever themselves decide what is to be done

[MrDoom]

After everyone is a worker there will be no state.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

The big question for me is who has the right to decide they know whats best for everyone else?

Someone that everyone, or the majority, says can represent them. Thus the revolutionary idea of Democratic Centralism.


The Party has show to create another self serving ruling class. The idea of a communist revolution is to put power into the hands of regualr people, and the only way to transfor society is to learn by doing.

The party has shown that it acts for and as the working class providing healthcare, education, land and industrialization to directly benefit the workers. A party isn't a class so that is rather bankrupt. Party members in Cuba live like non-party members. Fidel lives in a two bedroom apartment and the only luxury he has is a flat screen tv. Meanwhile, in capitalism, you can't find a leader who has less than two country houses.


You cant substitute a self proclaimed "educated" minority for masss action, many have tried it in the past and it has failed to move toward communism.

Mass action doesn't work on a large scale and is crushed on any sort of small scale. Worker organization is necessary. Anything else is utopic and a product of your mind. The Vanguard and Marxist-Leninism has been the only type of movement that has moved us towards communism and established socialism, or a deformed socialism. Anarchism has accomplished nothing other than criticizing the movement.


The only way people will be bothered to get informed and work togeathr to improve the society is if all working people get a say in how their lives and communities are to be run.


As they have and do now in their popular assemblies and Comittees for the Defence of the Revolution and Worker Soviets. Workers under socialism and even deformed socialism have had far more power in active grassroots policy making than in any other system. I reccomend you check out Cuba: Dictatorship or Democracy? which is written by a Chilean sociologist named Martha Harnecker (I think).