...think Im gonna be sick...

[Dr Mindbender]

:blink: :unsure:
http://www.celebratecapitalism.org/

[RedAnarchist]

Why has the Internet been violated like this?! :blink:

[Sir Aunty Christ]

At least I now know who's in Publius' avatar.

[Jhé]

poor misinformed people, we can only educate them but it is up to themselves to decide which path out of the many paths to follow. Only when have they seen both sides in an equal manner may we judge them

[C_Rasmussen]

It could be worse............it could be one of those uber Christian sites......though this does suck.

[Wanted Man]

There are worse sites on the 'net:

http://www.truthforyouth.com/

[An archist]

I tought it was a joke, until I read two-three lines further

[sav]

Capitalism is not fundamentally about money - it's about freedom and human creativity. Intellectual and material wealth are consequences.

I just fell off my chair laughing.

[YSR]

Aristotle? WTF? He was pre-capitalist by any definition.

[RevolutionaryMarxist]

Ayn Rand.

Enough Said.

Complete Morons.

[anarchista feminista]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10, 2006 06:03 am
There are worse sites on the 'net:

http://www.truthforyouth.com/
that is horrible! :( *cries*

[anarchista feminista]

Capitalism is the only system based on the recognition that each individual owns his life. Capitalism is the only social system in which individuals are free to pursue their rational self-interest, to own property and to profit from their actions. It entrenches individual rights, limited Constitutional government, and political/intellectual/economic freedom. bollocks <_<

[P.L.U.C.K.]

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 06, 2006 01:45 pm
:blink: :unsure:
http://www.celebratecapitalism.org/
they have thir own flag. and they called it sara. :huh:

[P.L.U.C.K.]

Originally posted by [email protected] 09, 2006 08:03 pm
There are worse sites on the &#39;net:

http://www.truthforyouth.com/
ohh that is so wrong. what is really strange is that on the intro, that apparently 34 teens were murdered last year, but only 10% of murders were commited my other teens. is it just me, or do they never tell you about the murders by other 90% (i presume by pissed-off teachers)

[Tekun]

I call bullshit

[Black Dagger]

http://www.celebratecapitalism.org/graphics/PosterSquareRand150X150.jpg

"There is no kind of freedom and liberty other than the kind which the market economy brings about"

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/8679/pukezg3.gif

[Clutch]

"Who is behind all this?"
The founder and Global Coordinator is Australian radio presenter, singer, activist, "PRODOS," (pictured above.) The non-profit PRODOS Institute Inc has been set up for the advancement of global freedom, invention, and prosperity. The emphasis is on inclusive, positive, educational, grassroots/community events, workshops, etc.


What the fuck is this non-profit shit? I thought he was a fucking capitalist. :wacko: :huh:

And before I forget, who the fuck is this PRODOS clown?

[Vladislav]

pfft with that site layout they won&#39;t get far.Totally non-eye catching, unconvincing crap.

[The Author]

"What is Capitalism Day?"
The first Sunday of JUNE each year, is "International Capitalism Day."

On this day, around the globe, we thank the Producers and Creators - humankind&#39;s great benefactors. We extend a hand of friendship and support, praise their achievements, independence of thought, and their courage in following their dreams. And uphold the only political system which makes all this possible.

Disgusting. What about the millions and millions of toilers slaving themselves under the "Producers and Creators" [sic]? Where&#39;s your "friendship and support" for them?


Originally posted by [email protected] November 10, 2006 07:17 am
And before I forget, who the fuck is this PRODOS clown?

It seems PRODOS has a blog,

http://prodos.thinkertothinker.com/

[Dimentio]

http://www.timecube.com

:wub:

[BreadBros]

PRODOS most recent blog entry is about him being initiated into the Freemasons, isn&#39;t that shit supposed to be kept secret?

[Red October]

who else thinks prodos looks creepy? and he trademarked the phrase "celebrate capitalism"...typical cappie

[Anton]

the site is so sickening it&#39;s actually funny

[JazzRemington]

Originally posted by [email protected] 09, 2006 03:03 pm
There are worse sites on the &#39;net:

http://www.truthforyouth.com/
Madonna Dahmer and The Death Squad own.

[Zero]

http://www.celebratecapitalism.org/graphics/prodosilovecapitalism.jpg

Raise your fists if you don&#39;t understand the socio-political effects of Capitalism on the developing third world, and assorted non-&#39;winner&#39; countries&#33;

[The Bitter Hippy]

is anyone else tempted to go along to the celebrations? Armed with a loudspeaker and mace of course... (chemical OR medaeval, your choice)

[JazzRemington]

So, I got bored one day and decided to critique the celebrate capitalism&#39;s "declaration."

Capitalism is the only system based on the recognition that each individual owns his life. Capitalism is the only social system in which individuals are free to pursue their rational self-interest, to own property and to profit from their actions. It entrenches individual rights, limited Constitutional government, and political/intellectual/economic freedom.

Right off the bat we have several inconsistencies with this "declaration." The first is the type of system Capitalism is. Capitalism is not a social system because a social system is a combination of a political and economic system. Capitalism is an economic system, it is not a form of government. Economic system do not grant rights, only governments can. Governments must enforce "individual rights" because they enforce the law allowing them. Economic systems do not enforce such governmental laws.

But also here we have a few definitions that are left out pertaining to several choice words this author uses. The first is "profit." A great deal of the time capitalists confuse (probably on purpose) the notion of "profit" to include economic profit and personal profit. By economic profit we mean the idea of surplus value, income-minus-expenses, etc. Personal profit is the enjoyment one gets beyond the cost of doing something. While the two are related, they are very different concepts that must be understood. What capitalism allows for is economic profit, not personal profit.

The second is "rational self-interest." Who decides it is rational? By what definition do we decide if something is rational or irrational? Why is self-interest rational and not social-interest?

Thirdly, according to the above statement, capitalism allows for "political/intellectual/economic freedom." The first glaring problem is that the author does not bother defining freedom. What do we mean by freedom? The freedom to do anything and be anything? The freedom to say or to think anything? If this is what we mean by freedom than am I free to shoot someone? Or am I free to become a doctor or to fly through the air unaided?

The more capitalist a culture - the greater its freedom and prosperity
That is the verdict of history. In just two short centuries, capitalism has lifted men’s living standards to heights undreamed of in the pre-capitalist era. Often forgotten today is that Western Europe, prior to the capitalist revolution of the late Eighteenth Century, suffering under the political yoke of the feudal aristocracy, was the equivalent of a Third World country - wracked by famine, recurrent plague, and the most unspeakable poverty. But no longer.

True enough, this section does have some facts to it. It is true that before capitalism there was not much development of the means of production. Capitalism did raise the standard of living. But this must be understood within the context of history. The only reason anything develops is because of need. Albeit, under capitalism there is the need to obtain and maintain profits for the sake of surviving in the market. Nonetheless, it is need that drives the development of a capitalist society.

In pre-capitalist societies, there was not much need for development because society depended upon agriculture for its survival. This had a built-in developmental method in that the more people working, the more could be produced so it did not matter if populations increased. Thus there was not much need to develop the means of production. With capitalism, the need to remain in the market and to survive forces a firm to develop new and better methods of producing and selling cheaper, thus the revolutionary way capitalism develops the means of production.

But "often forgotten today is that" this new way of production, which was only possible because of capitalism, created many problems such as diseases from the pollution created by the factories, deaths at the hands of unsafe working environment, and the creation of over-crowded and crime-filled cities. Some of these problems remain with us even today.

When was the last time a famine occurred in any capitalist nation - whether in Western Europe, North America or Asia? The United States has never suffered a famine in its history. Capitalism has created abundance unmatched in human history, enabling hundreds of millions to live better today than all the kings of yesterday.

There was a time in the US when the government actually paid farmers to destroy their crops in order to keep prices high. This practice is often used by firms even today: they would rather let something be destroyed than have it distributed. This is the way capitalism works: only what can be sold is produced. This means nothing in respect to how much the firm is capable of producing. In many instances, a firm is capable of producing much more than can be sold, which causes a problem because a surplus is created and a surplus means a firm must lower its prices, thus resulting in lower products. The only rational choice, barring any supposed responsibility a firm has to society, is for a firm to under-produce to drive up prices and profit.

True enough, I do not think the US has ever suffered a famine but it does suffer from one of the highest crime rates in any industrialized nation and at one point suffered a crippling ten year depression that brought the US on the brink of economic ruin.

[bezdomni]

http://prodos.com/graphics/_indexprodosbridgeroad.jpg
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Marx didn&#39;t have to do anything. This guy is the best argument against capitalism I have ever seen&#33;


He&#39;s apparently a freemason too. http://prodos.thinkertothinker.com/