HA

[LoneRed]

Damn the CC is full of idiots, Thanks for telling my why i was restricted.

My point exactly, you criticize anything remotely jewish, or Israel, watch out, people are gonna jump on your ass. Idiots

[Dooga Aetrus Blackrazor]

Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2006 06:04 pm
Damn the CC is full of idiots, Thanks for telling my why i was restricted.

My point exactly, you criticize anything remotely jewish, or Israel, watch out, people are gonna jump on your ass. Idiots
How is criticizing the amount of people who died during the Holocaust, or the amount of jews, specifically, a criticism of jewish people? It had nothing to do with "questioning everything." You argued against Holocaust figures that are matter-of-fact to anyone except white nationalists and other racists. Therefore, since you argue those figures, and only white nationalists and other racists argue them, what did that say about you? Sure, you could be just severely mistaken, but that is unlikely considering how ludicruous your claims were.

[LoneRed]

I never accept the "official" story until i have done independent research, it could be true, but I will not say it is, just because some burnt out anarchists say it is.

[black magick hustla]

ha

[Dooga Aetrus Blackrazor]

Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2006 07:25 pm
I never accept the "official" story until i have done independent research, it could be true, but I will not say it is, just because some burnt out anarchists say it is.
So? Who said you shouldn't. You did research and came to a reactionary conclusion. A conclusion that is so illogical, in fact, that people typically only believe in it to further rightist political motiviations. Basically, either you are really really bad at research and determining what is true, which may be the case, or you are a supporter of certain rightist views.

All we did was assume you aren't a moron and restrict you. After all, what are the chances someone who has the intelligence and motivation to do independent research comes to such a faulty conclusion? Quite low unless that person has political motivations for coming to that conclusion.

[YKTMX]

Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2006 01:04 am
Damn the CC is full of idiots, Thanks for telling my why i was restricted.

My point exactly, you criticize anything remotely jewish, or Israel, watch out, people are gonna jump on your ass. Idiots
Some of us are trying to debate this decision within the CC and with Malte. This attitude is not helping your cause - that is, if you're at all interested in being unrestricted.

[LoneRed]

I seriously doubt i will be unrestricted. My post was meant to those that restricted me on baseless grounds, Some would ban me for this if they could, I assume Malte thinks likewise.

DAB, I havent done enough research to my liking, but i will not say the given total is correct, without doing enough research, research that isnt from a western bourgeoisie point of view

[EwokUtopia]

Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2006 03:36 am
Some would ban me for this if they could, I assume Malte thinks likewise.
lol


A shame, after 1000 posts and all, is this a record for most posts before being banned?

[which doctor]

Well, he still has his other account.

[EwokUtopia]

shit, thats a lot of posting.

[D_Bokk]

Originally posted by Dooga Aetrus Blackrazor
How is criticizing the amount of people who died during the Holocaust, or the amount of jews, specifically, a criticism of jewish people? It had nothing to do with "questioning everything." You argued against Holocaust figures that are matter-of-fact to anyone except white nationalists and other racists. Therefore, since you argue those figures, and only white nationalists and other racists argue them, what did that say about you? Sure, you could be just severely mistaken, but that is unlikely considering how ludicruous your claims were.
Out of curiosity, would it be okay for a Jew to question the Holocaust and come to a similar conclusion to LoneRed?

[YSR]

No.

Because it's not able of "question[ing]". It happened.

[D_Bokk]

Originally posted by Young Stupid Radical
No.

Because it's not able of "question[ing]". It happened.
No doubt, but I was really referring to questioning the numbers and who orchestrated it.

[VonClausewitz]

You argued against Holocaust figures that are matter-of-fact to anyone except white nationalists and other racists. Therefore, since you argue those figures, and only white nationalists and other racists argue them, what did that say about you? Sure, you could be just severely mistaken, but that is unlikely considering how ludicruous your claims were.

People on this board and in the real world routinely either play down, argue with, or blatantly ignore the ammount of people done in by various so-called 'communist' regimes, but these people aren't so ostracised as someone who dares to wonder about holocaust figures. I'm just curious, is it worse to conduct mathematical experiments and research into a highly publicised historical event than it is to deny how bad other regimes were ?. After all, as good little dissenters, your first rule when dealing with history should seriously be "Don't trust anything cooked up by the allies after WWII, check into it".

After all, stories about Jews being steamed to death and turned into soap and lampshades were proven to be mere hysterical propaganda.

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2006 02:04 am
Damn the CC is full of idiots, Thanks for telling my why i was restricted.

My point exactly, you criticize anything remotely jewish, or Israel, watch out, people are gonna jump on your ass. Idiots
Israel is often criticized, like any imperialist and capitalist country is.

The Holocaust happened - 2/3rds of European Jews were murdered and millions others such as Romanies, Communists, Poles, PoWs, homosexuals and the mentally disabled.

[VonClausewitz]

The nazis keep very precise records of the numbers killed.

Lets take a devils advocate situation here, so don't get banning me, you zealous leftists you.

Show me some authentic Nazi documentation, or at least transcripts thereof, that prove this ? I've never seen any.

As far as I can tell from various historical studies, both apolitical and lef/right, the holocaust is one of the most certified, and least authentically recorded events in history.

[workersunity]

Yes, Its a shame what happened to LoneRed, he was a good comrade,

Questioning the numbers killed is NOT the same thing as denying, it is worse than reactionary to tie to believe that. Grow up Malte, oh btw i got 1000 posts before something happening, nice system. Im off to live life away from the computer, revolutions arent made online. Oh and Malte, I know you will ban this account but i really dont give a fuck, Enjoy your power trip, and I will question anything I deem fit. Get over it.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

Jesus Christ, what a bunch of whingebags.

[EwokUtopia]

Suppose a nihilist was to argue the holocaust never happened because nothing actually happens anyways. Would this be equally unacceptable?

Yeah, and the whole 6 million people died is a load of crap. more like 11-12 million died. Too often are the non-Jewish victims left out. 2/3rds of the Jews were exterminated whereas something like 9/10ths of the Romani were exterminated, and if they had won the war, you would see millions upon millions of Slavs killed. The holocaust was not simply a Jewish incident. The Jews comprise a slim majority of the peoples killed, lets never forget the rest.

Romani, Slavs, Homosexuals, Jehovas Witness, Handicapped, Blacks, and, of course, leftists. Each one of the victims deserves equal recognition to all of the others. That is why I am angered when people say "6 million people died in the holocaust". 6 million Jews died in that tragedy that killed fully 12 million people. They were no more or less important than any other group, simply larger.

[LSD]

A shame, after 1000 posts and all, is this a record for most posts before being banned?

Not even close.

That "record" is currently held by Capitalist Imperial who had 3876 posts when banned. And between him and LoneRed are an additional 16 members all of whom had a higher post count when banned than LoneRed.

[D_Bokk]

No one's going to answer my question? I'll just assume the people who banned LoneRed are good for nothing hypocrites then.

[Cryotank Screams]

Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2006 11:36 pm
DAB, I havent done enough research to my liking, but i will not say the given total is correct, without doing enough research, research that isnt from a western bourgeoisie point of view
One, your a dumbass.

Two, why the FUCK does this matter? Why won't you accept facts? What is there to gain? Why are you seeking to defend nazis?

[EwokUtopia]

Originally posted by [email protected] 07, 2006 03:50 pm

A shame, after 1000 posts and all, is this a record for most posts before being banned?

Not even close.

That "record" is currently held by Capitalist Imperial who had 3876 posts when banned. And between him and LoneRed are an additional 16 members all of whom had a higher post count when banned than LoneRed.
Really? What was Capitalist Imperial banned for? Im assuming he had a long history of restricted membership, either that or an ironic name. Thats pretty intense though, to devote that much time to a site that will eventually telol you to go home and dont come back.

[Aurora]

Yes, Its a shame what happened to LoneRed, he was a good comrade,
Questioning the numbers killed is NOT the same thing as denying, it is worse than reactionary to tie to believe that. Grow up Malte, oh btw i got 1000 posts before something happening, nice system. Im off to live life away from the computer, revolutions arent made online. Oh and Malte, I know you will ban this account but i really dont give a fuck, Enjoy your power trip, and I will question anything I deem fit. Get over it.
Its about time,you came out and admited it Gent ;)

[LSD]

Out of curiosity, would it be okay for a Jew to question the Holocaust and come to a similar conclusion to LoneRed?

This is an internet message board, we have no way to confirm who is or isn't anything. If someone here choses to announce that they are "a Jew" that's their own business, but it certainly won't affect how we treat them, on this or any other matter.

As a purely hypothetical though, yes, anyone espousing antisemitism or holocaust denial will be treated the same, regardless of their race or religion.

Remember, this isn't about policing ideas. We don't care what people privately think, we care what they post on this board and if those posts are deemed to be contrary to the aims of this board, they will not be tolerated. Period.

Besides, LoneRed was primarily banned because he was a sock puppet of a previously restricted member in violation of board guidelines.


Really? What was Capitalist Imperial banned for?

Accumulating 5 warning points (twice) and, as you put it, "a long history of restricted membership".

Again, we've had 18 members with more than 1000 posts get banned over the years. Most of them were long-time restricted members, but a couple were regular (or even CC) members who, for lack of a better term, "lost their minds" and had to be gotten rid of.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

Accumulating 5 warning points (twice) and, as you put it, "a long history of restricted membership".
Purely out of curiosity, is "a long history of restricted membership" on its own grounds for a ban?

[D_Bokk]

Originally posted by LSD
As a purely hypothetical though, yes, anyone espousing antisemitism or holocaust denial will be treated the same, regardless of their race or religion.
How can a Jew be anti-Semitic?

[LSD]

Purely out of curiosity, is "a long history of restricted membership" on its own grounds for a ban?

Not officially. But the CC does have a history of eventually getting tired with restricted members and banning them.

In Capitalist Imperial's case, though, it really was more of a case of flaming, spamming, and accumulating 5 warning points twice in a relatively short span of time.


How can a Jew be anti-Semitic?

He probably can't be, but he can certainly promote antisemitic ideas, intentionally or otherwise.

[D_Bokk]

Originally posted by LSD
He probably can't be, but he can certainly promote antisemitic ideas, intentionally or otherwise.
Have you found someone who promotes anti-Semitic ideas and isn't a anti-Semite? That person would have had to be one hell of a debater to convince you of that.

[KC]

The nazis keep very precise records of the numbers killed.

Many of which were destroyed.

[D_Bokk]

Well, it looks like LSD doesn't plan on replying... I don't blame him though.

For some reason, the people at RevolutionaryLeft seem to believe that Jews are a weak people in need of their protection. So they censor anyone who questions how many people died in the Holocaust. In an attempt to not be anti-Semitic, this forum has shown blatant anti-Semitism.

Questioning the history isn’t “reactionary” no matter what’s being questioned. If you find credible evidence, you shouldn’t be reprimanded for wanting to share the truth. I’m not saying LoneRed proved his argument, I haven’t even read the post in question – but anyone who questions the Holocaust in general will be restricted.

I bet if LoneRed said that fewer communists died (in the Holocaust) than was reported, he would have just been ignored... not restricted.

How many times do I need to expose hypocrisy of the CC before they just come out and admit it?

[YSR]

Oh shush. Can't you find something else to do besides try to find problems in the CC?

I started the thread in the CC for LoneRed's restriction. I can say pretty conclusively that not everyone agreed with it.

Go get a life, kiddo. Your user title says "Anarchist-Communist." People who complain all the time about internet messages boards aren't deserving of that title.

[D_Bokk]

Originally posted by Young Stupid Radical
Oh shush. Can't you find something else to do besides try to find problems in the CC?
Nope, it's basically all that can be discussed in IO for restricted communists.

I started the thread in the CC for LoneRed's restriction. I can say pretty conclusively that not everyone agreed with it.
So? The majority of the people in CC are hypocrits.

Go get a life, kiddo. Your user title says "Anarchist-Communist." People who complain all the time about internet messages boards aren't deserving of that title.
I'll get right on that Young Stupid Radical.

Do you sympathize for the dead bourgeois? Do you get in drum circles for peace? Do you reject propaganda of the deed? If you answer yes to any of those, you're the one who should rethink labeling yourself a Anarchist-Communist. Everything I believe fits in the Anarchist-Communist ideology, which is more than a lot of the "Anarchist-Communist" on here can claim.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

For some reason, the people at RevolutionaryLeft seem to believe that Jews are a weak people in need of their protection. So they censor anyone who questions how many people died in the Holocaust. In an attempt to not be anti-Semitic, this forum has shown blatant anti-Semitism.
And in your attempt to be clever, you have shown blatant stupidity. Oh, the irony of it all.

No one here believes the Jews to be "weak" or in need of our protection. Indeed if we held such views, we would be more sympathetic towards Israel in their war with the Palestinians. We oppose Holocaust denial purely on the grounds that it disregards objective facts in order to protect a regime whose supporters are banned on this forum for obvious reasons. While there is no problem arguing the facts that are quite obviously open to debate, e.g. whether it was 5 or 6 or 7 million that actually died, to deny the genocide altogether is quite simply to erase the most damning atrocity in modern history, and with it one of the most painful but important lessons we as radical thinkers, as advocates of change and, indeed, as humans, could possibly learn.


Questioning the history isn’t “reactionary” no matter what’s being questioned. If you find credible evidence, you shouldn’t be reprimanded for wanting to share the truth. I’m not saying LoneRed proved his argument, I haven’t even read the post in question – but anyone who questions the Holocaust in general will be restricted.
First of all, there is no credible evidence anywhere that would prove that the Holocaust never happened. If there was, the world would be more aware of it and Holocaust denial would be more tolerated--despite what you may think, all administrative bodies and/or media outlets are not part of some kind of Jewish conspiracy to silence the truth. And so questioning the Holocaust is indeed reactionary, as all it does is write off established, objective history as myth in order to make the Nazi regime seem less monstrous than it actually was.



I bet if LoneRed said that fewer communists died (in the Holocaust) than was reported, he would have just been ignored... not restricted.
I haven't seen the post in question but I'm assuming that either LoneRed denied the Holocaust ever happened, or drastically minimized the number of casualties as a result thereof, or something equally ludicrous. Had he said that 5.8 million Jews died instead of 6 million he probably would have been tolerated, just like he would be had he said that slightly fewer Communists died in the atrocity.

[Marx Lenin Stalin]

Why has Comrade LoneRed been banned? He was good comrade and a solid Marxist Leninist.

[RevolutionaryMarxist]

Originally posted by Marx Lenin [email protected] 10, 2006 12:38 am
Why has Comrade LoneRed been banned? He was good comrade and a solid Marxist Leninist.
For supposed Anti-Semitism and Holocaust Revisionism

[Marx Lenin Stalin]

Typical... :rolleyes:

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Originally posted by Marx Lenin [email protected] 10, 2006 12:38 am
Why has Comrade LoneRed been banned? He was good comrade and a solid Marxist Leninist.
Because the CC is anarchist. Quite ironic but I've mentioned that to you already.

[Mujer Libre]

Originally posted by LeftyHenry+November 10, 2006 01:04 am--> (LeftyHenry @ November 10, 2006 01:04 am)
Marx Lenin [email protected] 10, 2006 12:38 am
Why has Comrade LoneRed been banned? He was good comrade and a solid Marxist Leninist.
Because the CC is anarchist. Quite ironic but I've mentioned that to you already. [/b]
What are you basing that on? :rolleyes:

[Marx Lenin Stalin]

Most of the CC members are anarchist/ anti Marxist Leninist and typically vote against members who are not either anarchist or some revisionist kind of "Communist"

LeftyHenry, despite his excellent contributions, being not let in, is a fine example. Mathijs not getting in is another.

[apathy maybe]

What the fuck would you know anyway troll?

I am an anarchist, and I was kicked out of the CC (I can't remember the reason, but it was bullshit). Che y Marijuana is a Leninist and he is an admin.

The fact that not many Stalinists (if any) are in the CC is because most people on this board do not think that Stalinists are actually real revolutionary leftists. I.e. Stalinists are reactionary fucks.

Now you can disagree all you want, but the fact is that not all Marxists and not all Marxist-Leninists agree with what you think. In fact few people at all agree with what you think. And wishing and insulting will not make it better.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Originally posted by Mujer Libre+November 10, 2006 01:15 am--> (Mujer Libre @ November 10, 2006 01:15 am)
Originally posted by [email protected] 10, 2006 01:04 am

Marx Lenin [email protected] 10, 2006 12:38 am
Why has Comrade LoneRed been banned? He was good comrade and a solid Marxist Leninist.
Because the CC is anarchist. Quite ironic but I've mentioned that to you already.
What are you basing that on? :rolleyes: [/b]
um well if ya look around, most Commie Club Members are anarchists, or so called, "libertarian" marxists.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Originally posted by apathy [email protected] 10, 2006 01:41 am
What the fuck would you know anyway troll?

I am an anarchist, and I was kicked out of the CC (I can't remember the reason, but it was bullshit). Che y Marijuana is a Leninist and he is an admin.

The fact that not many Stalinists (if any) are in the CC is because most people on this board do not think that Stalinists are actually real revolutionary leftists. I.e. Stalinists are reactionary fucks.

Now you can disagree all you want, but the fact is that not all Marxists and not all Marxist-Leninists agree with what you think. In fact few people at all agree with what you think. And wishing and insulting will not make it better.
Marxist-Leninism has been the only ideology to actually acheive a worker's revolution.

[apathy maybe]

And what the fuck did that reply have to do with my post? I was pointing out that MLs exist in the CC, and that just 'cause that fuckwit of PAB disagrees with someone, does not mean that they are not a ML.

[D_Bokk]

Originally posted by RedStar1916+--> (RedStar1916)And in your attempt to be clever, you have shown blatant stupidity. Oh, the irony of it all.[/b]
Attempt to be clever? No. It's exposing the CC's hypocrisy and anti-Semitism... it's too bad they can't restrict themselves.

No one here believes the Jews to be "weak" or in need of our protection. Indeed if we held such views, we would be more sympathetic towards Israel in their war with the Palestinians. We oppose Holocaust denial purely on the grounds that it disregards objective facts in order to protect a regime whose supporters are banned on this forum for obvious reasons. While there is no problem arguing the facts that are quite obviously open to debate, e.g. whether it was 5 or 6 or 7 million that actually died, to deny the genocide altogether is quite simply to erase the most damning atrocity in modern history, and with it one of the most painful but important lessons we as radical thinkers, as advocates of change and, indeed, as humans, could possibly learn.
Yes, you do believe they're weak. No other religious group receives so much "protection" from the CC. For example, someone is allowed to call a Muslim a "Islamic-Fascist," but no one can call a Jew a "Jewish Capitalist."

And a lot of the people here are sympathetic to Israel. Very few people want Israel destroyed and wiped off of the face of the earth. And those that do will only have it if it happens via a working class attack. In other words, never. Imperialism will forever restrict working class uprisings... but naturally "communists" here will not support the anti-Imperialist movements in the Middle East.

Who denied the Holocaust? Well...? No one. From what I've gathered, LoneRed merely questioned the number dead.

First of all, there is no credible evidence anywhere that would prove that the Holocaust never happened. If there was, the world would be more aware of it and Holocaust denial would be more tolerated--despite what you may think, all administrative bodies and/or media outlets are not part of some kind of Jewish conspiracy to silence the truth. And so questioning the Holocaust is indeed reactionary, as all it does is write off established, objective history as myth in order to make the Nazi regime seem less monstrous than it actually was.
Again, who here is denying the Holocaust? You're no better than the many European countries who ban research on the Holocaust altogether. For all we know, the West has hidden information that would condemn not only Hitler, but the Allies as well. But we'll never know if people like you keep stopping all research. I'm not going to bother researching this stuff because it doesn't interest me - but why stop people who want to?

I haven't seen the post in question but I'm assuming that either LoneRed denied the Holocaust ever happened, or drastically minimized the number of casualties as a result thereof, or something equally ludicrous. Had he said that 5.8 million Jews died instead of 6 million he probably would have been tolerated, just like he would be had he said that slightly fewer Communists died in the atrocity.
You didn't answer the question.

LeftyHenry
Because the CC is anarchist. Quite ironic but I've mentioned that to you already.
Please, don't sully the name of Anarchists by calling the CC "Anarchist." These so called "Anarchists" are nothing but a bunch of childish fools on a power trip.

[Johnny Anarcho]

Originally posted by [email protected] 09, 2006 10:46 pm
Well, it looks like LSD doesn't plan on replying... I don't blame him though.

For some reason, the people at RevolutionaryLeft seem to believe that Jews are a weak people in need of their protection. So they censor anyone who questions how many people died in the Holocaust. In an attempt to not be anti-Semitic, this forum has shown blatant anti-Semitism.

Questioning the history isn’t “reactionary” no matter what’s being questioned. If you find credible evidence, you shouldn’t be reprimanded for wanting to share the truth. I’m not saying LoneRed proved his argument, I haven’t even read the post in question – but anyone who questions the Holocaust in general will be restricted.

I bet if LoneRed said that fewer communists died (in the Holocaust) than was reported, he would have just been ignored... not restricted.

How many times do I need to expose hypocrisy of the CC before they just come out and admit it?
No one truly knows how many were murdered in the Holocaust and 6 Million is the best estimate we have on the number of Jewish victims. Its not the number but the fact that it happened at all that matters. Innocent men, women, and children were systematically murdered because either their religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, or political beliefs didnt meet the "requirements" of the Nazi State. They were treated like they werent even human; constantly experimented on, pushed out of their homes, robbed of their possessions, seperated from their familys, beaten, raped, tortured, forced into slave labor, and finally sent to the gas chambers and then the ovens. To deny this is to deny the single greatest act of evil that mankind has ever seen. That someone could hate so much to be willing to commit genocide against children is monstrous and I hate it. I hate that it happened and that something like that could have ever taken place but I wont deny that it happened or question that it took place. To do so disgraces oneself, takes the survivors in vain, and helps to allow another Holocaust to take place.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Please, don't sully the name of Anarchists by calling the CC "Anarchist." These so called "Anarchists" are nothing but a bunch of childish fools on a power trip.


So much for their anti-hiarchy views...

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11, 2006 03:07 pm

Please, don't sully the name of Anarchists by calling the CC "Anarchist." These so called "Anarchists" are nothing but a bunch of childish fools on a power trip.


So much for their anti-hiarchy views...
Stop trolling.

[Nilats]

Why is that trolling? Honest question.

[Enragé]

Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2006 02:25 am
I never accept the "official" story until i have done independent research, it could be true, but I will not say it is, just because some burnt out anarchists say it is.
i defended you, i even tried to get you unrestricted, and im anarchist(-ish)

so shut up.

[Black Dagger]

Why is that trolling? Honest question.


Yeah you're nilats, i think that was a valuable contribution that served more of a purpose than just to provoke a response from the anarchists of the board, you're right, it was a valuable point he made there, quoting the inflammatory nonsense of another poster and then adding his own inflammatory nonsense on the end of it, very poignant.

[D_Bokk]

Originally posted by Nilats+--> (Nilats) Why is that trolling? Honest question.[/b]
It's not. Black Dagger is just angry because him and his "Anarchist" buddies in CC are probably the most authoritative people in there.

Black Dagger
Yeah you're nilats, i think that was a valuable contribution that served more of a purpose than just to provoke a response from the anarchists of the board, you're right, it was a valuable point he made there, quoting the inflammatory nonsense of another poster and then adding his own inflammatory nonsense on the end of it, very poignant.
This is what I'm talking about. Black Dagger wants our posts to be deleted as a "useless contribution" because we criticized his click of fake Anarchists.

[Nilats]

I hope it doesn't come to another anarchist vs marxist slugfest but it does seem strange how anarchists who hate authority, hierarchy and leadership embrace what could reasonable be called an elitist vanguard like the CC.

[Cryotank Screams]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11, 2006 04:14 pm
I hope it doesn't come to another anarchist vs marxist slugfest but it does seem strange how anarchists who hate authority, hierarchy and leadership embrace what could reasonable be called an elitist vanguard like the CC.
The CC is NOT a elitist vanguard, it's much like a technical social club that helps maintain the forum, from what I gather.

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 07, 2006 01:52 am
Suppose a nihilist was to argue the holocaust never happened because nothing actually happens anyways. Would this be equally unacceptable?
No, that would be completely ridiculous. How could anyone, let alone a Nihilist argue that "nothing happens" and therefore logically the holocaust didn't happen...?

What an insane assertion to make!

[Nilats]

It has come to my attention that the restriction of MLS was not due to any legitimate reason but because of a group of anti-Marxists have a vengeful and vindictive vendetta against Marxist Leninist revolutionaries. Certain mods also don't like us, this was told to me by several people including one I shall call "CT".

I just want everyone to remember that a vote against those people that are sectarian and use their power against certain kinds of revolutionaries, should not be supported.

[Enragé]

MLS was a troll
nothing he said was of any real substance

quite frankly
i think he's a joke account